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Defying its tradition of keeping China at a distance of its advanced weapons, Russia has signaled its intent to sell its latest model of Su-35 jet fighter to China.

"We are ready to work with the Chinese partners in this direction," said Alexander Mikheyev, the deputy director of the Russian government export agency Rosoboronexport. His remarks came on the sidelines of China's ambitious Zhuhai Airshow 2010, staged at the Guangdong province and featuring a record number of companies exhibiting aircraft and aviation technology.



Powered by two 117S engines with thrust vectoring, the Su-35 Flanker E mixes high maneuverability with the capability of engaging several air targets at once, using both guided and unguided missiles and weapons systems. The multirole fighter is expected to roll off assembly lines by the end of the year, with the first batch set for China between 2010 and 2015. Local media have indicated that the order includes 48 aircraft.



Mikheyev told RIA-Novosti that Russia and China were engaged in the initial stages of talks and would discuss the "features of the export variant of the Su-35 and how to integrate it with previously supplied Su-30 fighters and the locally assembled Su-27." Variants of the model have been offered to India, Malaysia, Algeria, Brazil and Venezuela since 2008. No deals though, have been signed.


Defense News quotes a Rosoboronexport official saying that the contract would "mark a departure from recent stagnation in Russian arms sales to China." Throughout this period China eyed advanced Russian weapons, but bar a few samples, Moscow refused to deliver fearing that China would copy the technologies. China's orders for jets are expected to soar over the next decade. The biggest demands recorded at the air show included small passenger aircraft, with orders for an estimated 505 planes anticipated in the next 20 years.



Reaping much of the gain is Brazil's Embraer, the world's largest maker of regional aircraft. "China's booming economy fosters the development of its regional aviation market, which generates great opportunities for players in the aviation industry, said Guan Dongyuan, president of Embraer China.

Still, at the air show, military drones drew the lion's share of the attention. As many as 25 different types were featured in the show, with one of them inducing rain as a shield. China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition is the only international aerospace trade show in China that is endorsed by the Chinese central government. The biannual arms exhibition has been held in Zhuhai since 1996.

Nuff to say. :lol:

Weapon and Technology: SU-35 for Chinese Airforce
 
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This is not welcome move, China must not be allowed the advance technology. Su35 must not be sold to china.

I don what happen to russia, Chinese have stabbed there back by illegaly copying Su27, now they are considering chinese RFP for Su35, I am sure Chinese will again do the same...

I suggest India buy Su35 and put diplomatic pressure.

Russia needs money. Su35 is a great fighter, much better than anything that China has now.
 
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EKV/MKV can shoot down the travelling ICBM in the exoatmosphere with the pinpoint accuracy, while the SAM like S-400 is really slow compared to these, and it can only use to shoot down the slower travelling aircraft.

Only US/China possess the techonology to shoot down the ICBM, while Russia is lagging far behind of it.

However, China now even moves ahead of USA in term of EKV/MKV technology.

In 2007, China has successfully tested its EKV by shoot down a satellite with an altitude of 865km.

U.S. fears debris from China satellite-killing test to hit other satellites | Mail Online


In 2008, US has also tested its own by shooting down a satellite at an altitude of 210km.

U.S. to shoot down spy satellite | COSMOS magazine


Satellite kill is not big achievement, many country can achieve it, including Pakistan and Korea. But the question is Are they INSANE??? By shooting Satellite we are playing with fire, the derby produced by the kill remain in atmosphere and may cause damage to future projects.

World is not Insane as communists are, they know effect of such dangerous tests.

Space does not belong to some one Father. it belongs to our next generation
 
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Satellite kill is not big achievement, many country can achieve it, including Pakistan and Korea. But the question is Are they INSANE??? By shooting Satellite we are playing with fire, the derby produced by the kill remain in atmosphere and may cause damage to future projects.

World is not Insane as communists are, they know effect of such dangerous tests.

Space does not belong to some one Father. it belongs to our next generation

Shooting down a satellite is really similar to shooting down an ICBM, even US views it as the top cutting edge technology.

So they must be some crazy commies according to your logic?
 
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Shooting down a satellite is really similar to shooting down an ICBM, even US views it as the top cutting edge technology.

So they must be some crazy commies according to your logic?

Any country that has Polar Satellite Launch technology can shoot down a satellite. It is not 'cutting edge'
 
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This really doesnt make any sense....
Why do the chinese need su 35sss???
They have multi ,medium fighter jets like j10 jf17s and all which they produced on their own and with collaboration....h 100
And according to them they all work fine and is in the league of the best fighters...
They have a defense industrial complex with 100billion $ budget...
can some chinese friends over here plz explain why they need su 35s???

China probably are not going to buy Su35. I think this Russian report is for stimulating India to buy Su35. Another possible reason is that Russia doesn't sell the engine alone and you know China wants AL41 so bad.
 
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oh.it's a good news,we will order one su35,then reseach it with our best friend.....
 
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Shooting down a satellite is really similar to shooting down an ICBM, even US views it as the top cutting edge technology.
So they must be some crazy commies according to your logic?



No it is not, Its not great achievement. ICBMs trajectory is less predictable than Satellite. ICBMs fly faster than satellite. ICBM are more difficult to intercept than satellite. To destroy Satellite you just need long range missile and little technology.

Even Bangladesh and Burma can achieve it. It just that they will not do it , coz Its not good for earth..


@Su35: If Chinese are not buying it, I will be happy. If Russian are selling them, India should ask them not to, and propose them similar deal.
 
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Any country that has Polar Satellite Launch technology can shoot down a satellite. It is not 'cutting edge'

You can launch them, but you can't catch them at the pinpoint accuracy.

ICBM reentry vehicle: Up to 14,000km/h
Satellite in low earth orbit: 29,000km/h

Projectile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Heck it is travelling faster than an ICBM, you can't even catch an ICBM, let alone something faster than this.

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No it is not, Its not great achievement. ICBMs trajectory is less predictable than Satellite. ICBMs fly faster than satellite. ICBM are more difficult to intercept than satellite. To destroy Satellite you just need long range missile and little technology.

Even Bangladesh and Burma can achieve it. It just that they will not do it , coz Its not good for earth..


@Su35: If Chinese are not buying it, I will be happy. If Russian are selling them, India should ask them not to, and propose them similar deal.

Yeah, so we have performed a live test for you by shooting two ICBM missiles simultaneously just in two years ago. :coffee:

China shoots down ICBM mid-course, Anti-ballistic missile intercept a success - YouTube
 
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Isn't Su-35 a bomber platform anyways?

Also, S-400 is not that bad, the requirements for ballistic missile interception and aircraft interception are different. Its still better to use domestic systems though, even if they're inferior, but buying the S-400 can inspire us with some of its design tricks.

No Su35 is not fighter bomber, Its upgrade version of Su37 terminator. Truly Air dominance fighter. Su35 BM is one of the best flanker produced.

Yeah, so we have performed a live test for you by shooting two ICBM missiles simultaneously just two years ago.

Thats different story, I was talking Bout ASAT. ASAT is not a big deal. Anything with predictable path is easily catchable. Size of Satellite is much larger than size of Re-entry vehicle. So its not big deal...

Looks like You are unable to understand my post, My post means "Intercepting ICBM is much diffficult, Intercepting Satellite is easy.". If any country has ICBM intercepting capability, they can easily perform ASAT. While if some country has ASAT that doesn't mean it can intercept ICBM...
 
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So PLAAF now wants Russian Su-35 fighters.
This means Chinese 4.5 gen fighter jet projects have failed.
It is not likely. But it is true China is having hard time to develop new engine. If China is going to buy Su35, it's the engine they want but Russia doesn't sell it alone.
 
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