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[Deino]

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Thanks and quite interesting since it also has "23xxx" even if the "23x6x" - meaning 15th Ground Attack Division IMO does not make sense !

 

[j20blackdragon]

I would focus on divisions with serial number 2xxxx.

I would focus on divisions with experience operating Russian Flankers with Russian avionics. I'm talking about pilots with experience with Su-27SK, Su-27UBK, Su-30MKK.

The 'blue camo' color scheme is a major clue. That is not a standard PLAAF color. Aggressor squadron is highly likely.

18th Division would be my guess.

 

[Deino]

Thanks !

 

[j20blackdragon]

Note the similarities. China is prepping for Vietnam.

 

[cnleio]

Note the similarities. China is prepping for Vietnam.

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Interesting ... Su-35 play as 'enemy force'

 

[帅的一匹]

Interesting ... Su-35 play as 'enemy force'

That's the only one/two purpose we buy it.

Actually China is no more interested in Russian fighter, cause we are not satisfied with their weapon system any more.

 

[Deino]

Maybe

https://twitter.com/x/status/828607212503257088

 

[j20blackdragon]

Interesting ... Su-35 play as 'enemy force'

Look at the colors used for USAF aggressors.

PLAAF is emulating these colors closely.

 

[Deino]

Maybe

https://twitter.com/x/status/828607212503257088

I would say YES !
I find esp. the edge of the vertical tail's trailing edge quite characteristically. On the Su-35 it is vertical, even a bit leaning backward, while in a Su-27SK/J-11A it is leaning forward.

 

[ptldM3]

That's the only one/two purpose we buy it.

Actually China is no more interested in Russian fighter, cause we are not satisfied with their weapon system any more.

No one will spend 83+ million for a single SU-35s if they are not "satisfied" nor would anyone in their right mind pay that much for an aircraft that will only be used as aggressor aircraft when they can just use SU-30s or any J-11 variant for that role.


That Vitnamese SU-30 is painted in a basic Russian camo, so is the SU-35. The SU-35 obviously impressed the Chinese Air Force, claiming anything otherwise or trying to discredit the SU-35 is just nationalist pride.

 

[j20blackdragon]

PLAAF planes have a very specific color scheme. Off-color planes are not the norm.

All off-color Flankers operated by 18th Division (serials 2xx9x) are aggressor aircraft. Evidence can be easily provided.
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2012/09/desert-camo-for-china-air-forces-su-30s.html

huitong's blog confirms Su-35 entered service with 18th Division. We can also visually confirm that the Su-35 serials are indeed 2xxxx. I agree the numbers are blurry.
http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/fighters-ii.html#Su-35

It's also interesting to note that the Su-35 was not sent to FTTC (serials 78xxx). The best PLAAF pilots are sent there to conduct flight testing of new aircraft and equipment, developing new techniques and tactics for new planes. FTTC is tasked with developing new combat tactics, flight techniques, training programs for new aircraft and conducting certification of new equipment.

All the high priority planes are sent to FTTC first.

For example, J-10B. Note the 78xxx serials.

All four of the J-20s were sent to FTTC first. Note the 78xxx serials.

We currently have zero evidence that they even bothered to send Su-35 to FTTC.

But you guys can believe whatever you want to believe.

 

[Deino]

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We currently have zero evidence that they even bothered to send Su-35 to FTTC.

But you guys can believe whatever you want to believe.

Agreed, but who is still pretending that the Su-35 are assigned to the FTTC ?? ... even if I have to admit it was my first bet.

 

[j20blackdragon]

Almost forgot.

J-10C with AESA is another high priority plane. Also sent to FTTC first.

So if you guys want to convince us that Su-35 is a high priority plane in the PLAAF, show us the 78xxx serial.

 

[Sanchez]

I am not sure that all the18th division pilots fly aggressor jets. One of their regiments stations at the airport close to my city and there are only regular Su-30MKKs flying around. I haven’t been able to see Su-35 yet.

 

[Deino]

I am not sure that all the18th division pilots fly aggressor jets. One of their regiments stations at the airport close to my city and there are only regular Su-30MKKs flying around. I haven’t been able to see Su-35 yet.

Good point ... so what units within the 18. Division could be ?

52nd Air Regiment - Wuhan-Shanpo - J-7B
53rd Air Regiment - Changsha / City - Su-30MKK
54th Air Regiment - Wudangshan - J-7B, JJ-7A

Probably both J-7B-units are prime candidates for a replacement ??