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You keep trolling and avoid the question. How do you expect me to talk sense things with you?

What answer did I avoid, I have answered all your queries, You try to keep it incomplete just because you never expected nor can you digest it... Why not disprove and lets talk...
 
AMCA!!! There is an analogy between MKK and MKI but there is no analogy between lavi and j10B ( and mig19 and jf17). J10B and jf17 are now completely different beast (i am talking about the end product).

End products are different aswell.... What similarity do you find in Su 30 MKK and Su 30 MKI that you call it the same end product... Design wise my statement match aswell isnt it?
 
End products are different aswell.... What similarity do you find in Su 30 MKK and Su 30 MKI that you call it the same end product... Design wise my statement match aswell isnt it?

But China can ask Russian for info. So as Israel. Both countries are leaning towards China at the moment. Then China will pass the info to Pakistan.

But India can't ask China for J-10 and JF-17 info, right? The most they can get is engine info from Russia but that will changes soon soon as it will fit with Chinese engine next years.. Then IAF will have zero info on either planes...
 
But China can ask Russian for info. So as Israel. Both countries are leaning towards China at the moment.

But India can't ask China for J-10 and JF-17 info, right? The most they can get is engine info from Russia but that will changes soon soon as it will fit with Chinese engine next years.. Then IAF will have zero info on either planes...

Israel and Russia Leaning on China?? Please.... Dont do that to yourself... And Hey the same can be said about Su 30 MKI... The core product of SU 30 MKI are the "Vetrivale avionics suite" , If design can be obtained from Russia, we can do the same for your J-10 and JF-17 from Israel and Russia Respectively.
 
Israel and Russia Leaning on China?? Please.... Dont do that to yourself... And Hey the same can be said about Su 30 MKI... The core product of SU 30 MKI are the "Vetrivale avionics suite" , If design can be obtained from Russia, we can do the same for your J-10 and JF-17 from Israel and Russia Respectively.

Of cos Russia is leaning towards China. Do you still remember the humilitation of Russia approve the re export of RD-93 engines to Pakistan. Between China and India, Russia choose China... Without the re -export of RD-93, it will effectively kill off JF-17 or seriously delay it for many years. But Russia didn't, cos China back the deal. Russia has a huge border with China. They cant ill afford hostile with China especially PLA is very well fund and well arm. Being friendly with China is the only solution. China asking few info about MKI from Russian shall not be a problem.

Israel just re establish military ties with China despite dis approval from Uncle Sam. They know its important to be friend with the new superpower.
 
Of cos Russia is leaning towards China. Do you still remember the humilitation of Russia approve the re export of RD-93 engines to Pakistan. Between China and India, Russia choose China... Without the re -export of RD-93, it will effectively kill off JF-17 or seriously delay it for many years. But Russia didn't, cos China back the deal. Russia has a huge border with China. They cant ill afford hostile with China especially PLA is very well fund and well arm. Being friendly with China is the only solution. China asking few info about MKI from Russian shall not be a problem.

Israel just re establish military ties with China despite dis approval from Uncle Sam. They know its important to be friend with the new superpower.

Well, India was not happy about the RD-93 sale to pakistan , 100% true... It is neither a humiliation nor a tactic of china to have helped to do otherwise. It is a well known fact, a tender once signed cannot be taken back, unless otherwise an international body is ready to compensate the loss...
 
Well, India was not happy about the RD-93 sale to pakistan , 100% true... It is neither a humiliation nor a tactic of china to have helped to do otherwise. It is a well known fact, a tender once signed cannot be taken back, unless otherwise an international body is ready to compensate the loss...

Dont kid yourself.. Russia can do what she deemed. They sign a deal with India for INS Vikramaditya and can change another deal with a mark up price and shoved it to India and sign it.... Don't tell me that is not a fact?

They can do that to RD-93 deal but they did not. China is the backer of that deal. You know who not to mess with....
 
Dont kid yourself.. Russia can do what she deemed. They sign a deal with India for INS Vikramaditya and can change another deal with a mark up price and shoved it to India and sign it.... Don't tell me that is not a fact?.

Vikramaditya, a Disappointment indeed , as we just wanted a vessel to be upgraded, but Russia has not only upgraded it but also modified it and is sharing its latest technologies with us, what more does a nation like us want.. Money, if it was ever a problem why would we go for such vessel.. Price rise was because of Corrupt officers and Politicians who played in the middle... Russia has nothing to do with it.
They can do that to RD-93 deal but they did not. China is the backer of that deal. You know who not to mess with....

Definitely not.... A tender was not tried to stop in the fist place then speak of china playing its role...
 
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Greattt picture ever seen so far! Dangerous scary J-10B!
 
Did our media miss that??
2011-07-31 (China Military News cited from PTI) -- China will give Pakistan a squadron of the advanced J-10B multi-role, all-weather fighter aircraft in a bid to boost the strategic reach of its close ally, a media report has said.

China has made the offer to Pakistan Army's Chief of General Staff, Lt Gen Waheed Arshad, who has just concluded a week long visit to China, the Pakistani Urdu daily Jang said.

Pakistan will be the first country, after China, to have such advanced aircraft which are equipped with the latest weapons, it said.
During Arshad's visit, China reiterated its defence and economic support to Pakistan and assured him that the relationship between the two countries will reach new heights and Beijing's efforts for the safety and security of "all weather" ally will be never-ending.

Lt Gen Arshad visited many sensitive places in China and called on General Ma Xiaotian, deputy chief of general staff of People's Liberation Army and other officials including Lt General Ren Haiquan, the vice president of the National Defence University.

China to give squadron of J10-B fighters to Pak
Though China has earlier supplied Pakistan with fighter jets, this is the first time that it is supplying advanced jets to Pakistan.

China and Pakistan have also jointly built an advanced fighter jet, JF-17, commonly known as 'Thunder'.
 
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