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No mate thats the real picture of Qaher mock-up it probably doesnt weight more than 100-200 kg, thats why you can pull it with a strap around cockpit.

i dont think they would make such a huge organization for that :D , they have got better capabilities in photoshop
they wouldnt be this silly to pull that thing from cocpit o_O , they can look at other planes at least to make it more realistic.

@atatwolf ,we are speaking out the same thing,just in different way , about F313 i said " as far as i know, " and later added that " it makes no sense to fly a RC for flight stability and aerodynamics, clear proof of propaganda "

also that runway picture made me lol over here :D :D

weldings ? o_O do they used welding on a plane to merge 5-7 class aliminum? , not possible. About mock up, everything mess in there, air intakes is totally mess, in a Angle of Attack engine will need to spend power for sucking ,( which will create a huge turbulent flow with negative pressure gradient ) kinda huge vibration around cocpit which is not suitable for equipments. Location of front wings also same (its not winglet,barely wing ) , will create a turbulent region for back wing, nozzle and sections around nozzle is mess too.

I think its revolutionary but it doesnt mean it can fly as it is in Mock-up, with some of effort and design (if they really do ), they can have a stuff flying with a turbo prop
i have seen their thing which is claimed to be 600 tons submarine ,with a 35 years old high screw propeller probably 6 blades, which is quite bad for acoustics, and seeing all structural elements's shape on steel plated covers.

We are talking the same thing @atatwolf , but we shouldnt look down own their industry.

I'm kind of tired of explaining it to him over and over. He still thinks it is a mockup. NO! Iran claims it is the real thing.

I mean, if that Qaher thing can take off I can put an engine up my arse and take off too :lol: The Qaher doesn't even have screws and bolds. If they have to do a check up, how are they going to open the fighter jet? Crack it open like a wallnut?



Hmmmz, who says total boycot? They could do partial boycot.

in my previous posts i just said "as far as i know " ,so i didnt know much thing. And i used to believe they claimed as mock up, ok i get it now ,and thanks for it, i got that they claimed it to real plane.

Anyway, is it possible to begin a conservation in here like PM? I couldnt managed to do it :(
 
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about partial boycott to china , for now its not possible and wouldnt be possible until a group of countries will exist to subsitute it.

Anything done in china ,like boycott ,sanction (even sanction is applied for companies which doesnt follow UN rules ) , what you are saying in economical basis ,sanction and boycott will get an effect on global economy, none of west wouldnt do this before than a decade until their economies are getting stable.
 
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about partial boycott to china , for now its not possible and wouldnt be possible until a group of countries will exist to subsitute it.

Anything done in china ,like boycott ,sanction (even sanction is applied for companies which doesnt follow UN rules ) , what you are saying in economical basis ,sanction and boycott will get an effect on global economy, none of west wouldnt do this before than a decade until their economies are getting stable.
You should do some research. Major shifts are happening in production over sea.
ee16_world00.jpg

It is not difficult to replace China. Cheap labor can be found in these countries. Also China's population is reaching average of 40. They are getting very expensive relatively to other countries. Still most Chinese live under African living standards. They don't have any leverage like monopoly on gas and oil like Russia.

So I disagree. Boycot is very possible and I even think China will hit a major economic crises and big companies are preparing for this. Also if you look at money outflow in China it tells you that even the upper class of Chinese society don't trust on the Chinese economy.
 
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You should do some research. Major shifts are happening in production over sea.
ee16_world00.jpg

It is not difficult to replace China. Cheap labor can be found in these countries. Also China's population is reaching average of 40. They are getting very expensive relatively to other countries. Still most Chinese live under African living standards. They don't have any leverage like monopoly on gas and oil like Russia.

So I disagree. Boycot is very possible and I even think China will hit a major economic crises and big companies are preparing for this. Also if you look at money outflow in China it tells you that even the upper class of Chinese society don't trust on the Chinese economy.

Replacing china is just dream of west , while there is a country organized like china , collection of some volume based economies wouldnt make sense.

I been to china, had friends over there and what i have seen people in there living in good standards, not like "lower than africa" , what you mention is rural areas in there. This article is good about this :

Poverty in China

About economic crisis in china, none of the countries would be looking for it, that will be a disaster for world. A huge hit for western and US , there are hundreds of ships meant to operate between china and US , which carries both goods and raw material.

About how global economy effected by china crisis;

China facing US style finance crisis.


About what is going wrong in china ,debt crisis;

China's Turn For A Debt Crisis: Keep Your Eyes Open For The Unexpected - Forbes

About upper class in china, these are my sights ;
Luxury demand is something inevitable, and even most patriotic person would go for a foreigner product because of luxury ,this is another issue. Also those people might realized to invest overseas, as investment in china already over the possible limits.
Some industries even run at half capacity.

So far i seen in china,people aware of world ,girls know fashion ,they spends on clothes, they spend on cars, they spend for furniture ,while back in past they werent having these kind demands.as a result of their demands are incresing ; wages are increased, but still costs considerable to keep production in china.

I know about PC16 countries, but it doesnt mean they will be replaced at the moment in case of crisis ,this is an "estimation" based on ongoing and possible transfer of production to these countries in next 1 decade or more. also its "estimated" ,while those countries still keeping instability in some matters.

China may go into a transition , officers in china isnt that silly to overlook this movement. The same happened to Japan ,and now they are high tech country. if this is said to be happen in moderate term, china will take precaution and prepare for transition. China wont disappear, will take a new place in global economy, and global strategy . Partial boycott already exists for some companies in China, but it wont be large scale partial boycott , To be applied whole of westerns.

its only minor shifts happening from china to PC16 countries. Which is considered to be signs of future shifts.

The PC16: Identifying China's Successors | Stratfor PC16 : Successors of China[/url]

I dont claim china will stay forever, the last sentence of last reference is nice ;
"The parabola of economic development dictates that what has not yet risen will rise and eventually fall. The process unleashed in the Industrial Revolution does not seem to be stoppable. In our view, this is the next turning of the wheel."
 
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