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A question for my Iranian friends:

If this is official government policy in Turkey, can Iran trust that the government of Turkey will protect Muslim values?


Istanbul, Turkey (CNN) -- Thousands of Turks marched through Istanbul in a demonstration calling for improved rights and greater social acceptance for the country's homosexual community.

Activists say the annual Turkish Gay Pride Parade, now in its ninth year, is the only march of its kind in a majority-Muslim country. Several thousand supporters of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights carried signs and rainbow flags as they made their way down one of Istanbul's busiest pedestrian thoroughfares.

Participants chanted slogans against harassment and blew whistles, waved large rainbow flags and carried signs in Turkish and English that sported messages like "We're everywhere, get used to it" and "Dance, dance, against homophobia, dance."

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Other signs referenced Ahmet Yildiz, a 26-year-old who was shot to death in Istanbul in 2008. Yildiz's father has been accused of traveling almost 600 miles to shoot him in what has been called an "honor killing."

According to Yildiz's partner, Ibo, Yildiz sought protection from prosecutors after receiving threats of violence from his family. His case was featured in an Amnesty International report on the status of gays, lesbians, and transsexuals in Turkey titled "Not An Illness, Nor A Crime."

The report says it later emerged that the prosecutor's office erroneously transferred the complaint to another office and failed to investigate the claims, in what some activists view as the unwillingness of the authorities to confront homophobic violence.

Sunday's march blurred ethnic and religious lines. A group of about 20 Kurdish activists, fleeing police tear gas that was fired at an unrelated nearby political demonstration, were greeted by a round of applause as they joined the colorful crowd.

Tear gas from the same demonstration wafted over parts of the crowd, causing the march to stall briefly as people took cover to stave off its effects.

Gay rights organizations have accused Turkey's government of expressing hostile attitudes toward the country's homosexual community. Activists point to a statement made by Aliye Kavaf, Turkey's minister for women and family affairs.

"I believe homosexuality is a biological disorder, an illness, and should be treated," she said in a 2010 interview with the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet.

One parade-goer, who was a part of a tango group moving through the crowd, wore a bright red head scarf with a checkered red, black, and white tie as she danced with her partner. The dancer, who wears a head scarf in daily life, said that Islam and homosexuality are not incongruous.

"Religion is not a fixed thing," said Iz, who declined to provide her last name. "It has been interpreted throughout history, is still being interpreted and it needs to evolve."

In accession talks with the European Union, Turkey has been gradually improving its record on homosexuality as it makes changes to conform to EU policy on human rights laws. Many marchers on Sunday came out to improve social consciousness of homosexuality.

"The big-bellied, mustached men are looking, trying to figure out what's going on. They're learning what a rainbow is," said Natalie Aslan, 23.
 
A Muslim country that allows gays to roam around. Nope. Iran must never trust Turkey with something like that.
 
Well Iran has to ask itself can theocratic Iran trust a strictly secular Turkiye to be the leader in the Muslim world. I think most people would argue no. Nor do I think Turkiye is vying to become the leader of the Muslim world, they are after all a secular country; and currently the current leader of the secular world is the US, so that job isn't available.
 
Funny how you don't tell the Turks it's none of their damn business to spam every Iranian thread.
I can not stop them,but I can at least tell to you as advice.It's your call,you can go on making threads.But this won't stop them from derailing or trolling the threads.
 
A question for my Iranian friends:

If this is official government policy in Turkey, can Iran trust that the government of Turkey will protect Muslim values?





again no comment lol
 
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man no need to create Turkish threads in Iranian section... we dnt care about them... just post Iranian related news. thnx

Obviously some Iranians do care what they are bringing to our borders. The problem I have with your statement is the word "we."

The issue with Turkey is that their government actively encourages this behavior.
 
I agree, no need to flame topics. Let the Turks continue flaming, no need to lower ourselves to their level. Also I and several other members asked you about situation in Tabriz, you didnt respond.

If u really are Azeri please have a conversation in Azeri with a Turkish member or Iranian Azeri member to prove it. Because right now all this doubt about your false identity is not helping us, thanks.
 
In case Turkey missed the point the Government of Turkey actively encourages gay parades as a matter of law.

Iran's government doesn't actively encourage gay parades. In fact, if a handful of Iranians have copied Turkey; it is something that should be discussed.

I agree, no need to flame topics. Let the Turks continue flaming, no need to lower ourselves to their level. Also I and several other members asked you about situation in Tabriz, you didnt respond. If u really are Azeri please have a conversation in Azeri with a Turkish member or Iranian Azeri member to prove it. Because right now all this doubt about your false identity is not helping us, thanks.

Khak bar saret madar jendeh. How's that?

Mizari een bache pantork ha chert o pert benivsan rajeb e Iran va hichi nemigi?

Tof mikonam to kos-e nanat.

Parcham e Iran ro az profilet var dar - khaen e pedar sag.
 
Both Iran and Turkey are among the least practicing of muslim nations lol. And better to give gays full rights than supress them.
 
In case Turkey missed the point the Government of Turkey actively encourages gay parades as a matter of law.

Iran's government doesn't actively encourage gay parades. In fact, if a handful of Iranians have copied Turkey; it is something that should be discussed.



Khak bar saret madar jendeh. How's that?

Mizari een bache pantork ha chert o pert benivsan rajeb e Iran va hichi nemigi?

Tof mikonam to kos-e nanat.

In case Turkey missed the point the Government of Turkey actively encourages gay parades as a matter of law.

Do you have a source for this? Government of Turkiye is led by the moderate-conservative AKP I doubt they would have such a policy.

In case Turkey missed the point the Government of Turkey actively encourages gay parades as a matter of law.

Iran's government doesn't actively encourage gay parades. In fact, if a handful of Iranians have copied Turkey; it is something that should be discussed.



Khak bar saret madar jendeh. How's that?

Mizari een bache pantork ha chert o pert benivsan rajeb e Iran va hichi nemigi?

Tof mikonam to kos-e nanat.

Parcham e Iran ro az profilet var dar - khaen e pedar sag.

Khak bar saret madar jendeh. How's that?

Mizari een bache pantork ha chert o pert benivsan rajeb e Iran va hichi nemigi?

Tof mikonam to kos-e nanat.

Parcham e Iran ro az profilet var dar - khaen e pedar sag.

Is this necessary?
 

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