Can Bangladesh ever be a sovereign country?

[nana41]

@IamBengali you have a good point. I agree that Bangladesh can never be a fully sovereign country, but very few countries in the world are, except for regional and great powers, most of whom happen to be also very large nations.

So the destiny of Bangladesh is to be a vassal state.

From 1204 to 1757, we were either a full part of Delhi Sultanate or Mughal empire, or a vassal of those two entities. There were some periods of independence, but it did not last.

From 1757 to 1947, we were either de facto or de jure part of the British empire.

From 1947 to 1971, we were a part but more like a vassal of (West) Pakistan.

From 1971 to today, during Awami rule we were a vassal of India, at other times we were relatively more independent.



For future, there is no better option for Bangladesh than to become a full on vassal of China and form military alliance with China. To remain and become a vassal of a screwed up incompetent country like India is a bad choice that no Bangladeshi will accept, because that will mean Bangladesh will remain poor and underdeveloped. And everyone looks for their personal interest and future prospect first, so I maintain, all Bangladeshi people will choose to be a vassal of China, rather than a vassal of India.

Had the Muslim(poor) majority of East Pakistan joined the Muslim (poor) minority of West Pakistan and fought off the feudal under the tutelage of Zulfiqar Bhutto,scenario would be different today.

 

[Nike]

I think you Bangladeshi should putting more sense of confidence in your country, in your chest, and put it in mind. Bangladesh has their own potential, has a lot of thing to make them can be considered an important actor in South Asia. Your economic progress is fairly good when compared again Pakistan and even India only behind Sri Lanka right now. Your country has a large number based population in which it self contain a large reasons to make yourself to be proud to called yourself as a Bangladeshi, large populations means large workforce, large based market economy, large pool for army conscription and so on. Your country has a number of talented man, readily enough to build your country into more better shape. There is no need for your country to become client state of China or any country in this world. There is no need for Bangladeshi to become servant of other country.

 

[eastwatch]

Which other country is more sovereign than Bangladesh? Well, Jamaatis love to lament, and jeopardize our sovereignty by undoing 1971. What a crocodile's tear about our independence?

 

[Al-zakir]

Yes, the day nationalist forces eliminate Indian dalal @IamBengali type sold out traitor.

 

[kalu_miah]

I think you Bangladeshi should putting more sense of confidence in your country, in your chest, and put it in mind. Bangladesh has their own potential, has a lot of thing to make them can be considered an important actor in South Asia. Your economic progress is fairly good when compared again Pakistan and even India only behind Sri Lanka right now. Your country has a large number based population in which it self contain a large reasons to make yourself to be proud to called yourself as a Bangladeshi, large populations means large workforce, large based market economy, large pool for army conscription and so on. Your country has a number of talented man, readily enough to build your country into more better shape. There is no need for your country to become client state of China or any country in this world. There is no need for Bangladeshi to become servant of other country.

Its not a question of being a servant, in order to go anywhere in this world, you need to choose sides. You cannot sit on the sidelines and confuse people of both sides who does not know which side you are on. I believe people in Mid-Southern Africa and Latin America has the luxury to remain neutral, for the rest of us in Asia and North Africa, I believe we will need to choose sides, sooner or later. I would rather see my country choose the winning side sooner than later.

Bangladesh has potential, but India is hampering our potential in every possible way, without Chinese help we will not be able to remove Indian interference and abuse and achieve a stable and peaceful political and economic order which is absolutely essential to realize the development potential of Bangladesh.

Indonesia does not have the same kind of geography like we do, namely not surrounded by a hostile abusing neighbor, so your situation is completely different. I would say this geography provides you the luxury to remain neutral for the time being, but eventually you will have to choose sides as well, and the sooner you do it, even if quietly, the better it will be for your future.

 

[kalu_miah]

Which other country is more sovereign than Bangladesh? Well, Jamaatis love to lament, and jeopardize our sovereignty by undoing 1971. What a crocodile's tear about our independence?

How do you feel about Shiraj Shikder, Colonel Taher and Ziauddin? What was their role in 1971 war and why did they oppose Awami League and Mujib Bahini after the war ended? What about Bhashani, when he commented before his death that Bangladesh is half independent and we need to fight another war to make it fully independent? Are all these people Jamati? How about Farhad Majhar, is he a Jamati?

Where is Ziauddin now, one of the greatest freedom fighter, the partner of Colonel Taher, what he is doing now in our sovereign Bangladesh?

Colonel Taher was unfortunately killed by the very person who he saved, which I think is the central tragedy of Bangladesh's existence. Zia I think was another idiot, who ruined Bangladesh and its future by killing Col. Taher.

So I maintain, in 1971 we did not become independent, rather a vassal of Hindu dominated India and none of our leaders had the foresight to see this before 1971. Even if I am not a Jamati, I have to admit, only Jamat leader Golam Azam had the foresight to make this prediction and he turned out to be correct.

Bottom line, again and again we have shown ourselves to be incapable of self rule and being a vassal state is our destiny, and if we are going to be vassal state, it is better to be a vassal state of China, than that of a worthless incompetent India.

 

[INDIC]

Had the Muslim(poor) majority of East Pakistan joined the Muslim (poor) minority of West Pakistan and fought off the feudal under the tutelage of Zulfiqar Bhutto,scenario would be different today.

Bhutto himself has a feudal background from Larkana, how can he even claimed himself as socialist.

 

[Imran Khan]

yes it can be make me prime minister

 

[Ayush]

no,it will always be east bengal

 

[the just]

no,it will always be east bengal

East side of British Bengal got sovereignty and proudly hold the name Bangladesh. West of British Bengal is still under foreign (Hindi/Urdu speaking) rule.desparetly clinging to the dream of united Bengal.hence, keeping/saying/dreaming /capitalizing the name west Bengal.
West of what? Do enlighten us.

 

[Ayush]

East side of British Bengal got sovereignty and proudly hold the name Bangladesh. West of British Bengal is still under foreign (Hindi/Urdu speaking) rule.desparetly clinging to the dream of united Bengal.hence, keeping/saying/dreaming /capitalizing the name west Bengal.
West of what? Do enlighten us.

@scorpionx @DRAY u will always be under the rule of us evil north indians

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Its not about interfering in internal matters. Its about Indian dominance in every sector. In garment sector lot of Indians are working alongside Bangladeshis. In entertaiment, 95% TV channels are Indians. If one dares to stop a single Indian channel Bangladeshis esp. women start protesting. BNP tried to turn off some channels but within 2 days they had to lift the bar due to mass protest. Now Bollywood is open in BD halls because of local films have no takers. Everything in Bangladesh is India.

If ur own people want it,is it our fault..this is global age...better stuff sells.Bangladesh keeps talking about trade deficit,this natural given the size of the economies,india suffers a trade deficit with china for example.In a globalized age,economic influence of a powerful neighbouring economy will usually be felt...it can't be wished away.But this doesn't amount to purposeful indian design to rob bangladesh of sovereignity.Nations with greater population and resources will have greater global and regional influence,it can't be ignored..this is true for all not just india-bangladesh scenario.Given its population density and lack of mineral resources one has to say so far bangladesh has done better than expected....but this we will become a regional power overnight by change in policy is not viable....bangladesh doesn't posses all the necessary ingredients for an industrialized economy.It is still an agriculture based one primarily due to geography.India can't be blamed for everything.

We are free to lick whatever boot that serves our interest. Sorry if that makes you feel bad. As for Indian water terrorism, continue as you are doing, you will see the result.

And your irrelevant rant about banking and other inefficiency is all thanks to incompetence of Indian puppet Hasina didi ruling Bangladesh for the last 7 years. Even after these obstacles our economy is still growing and our hunger/nutritional index is already better than India. We need Chinese boot in Bangladesh precisely to remove the inefficient people who like to lick Indian boot, so we can follow Chinese model of efficiency and growth.

Bangladesh doesn't have the natural resources of china to follow that model,secondly there is religious instability,finally chinese dams on the brahmaputra are one of the prime causes of water shortage in padma.

 

[kalu_miah]

Bangladesh doesn't have the natural resources of china to follow that model,secondly there is religious instability,finally chinese dams on the brahmaputra are one of the prime causes of water shortage in padma.

Please do not concern yourself with what model we should follow, let us deal with it please.

Padma has no connection with Brahmaputra, please look at the map.

 

[Luffy 500]

When you say "everything", you're wrong........if you can see through the Jaamati/BNP propaganda you'll find that India does not interfere in your internal affairs at all(we have enough problems of our own)......
India has good trade relations with Bangladesh.....if you call that interfering then, acc. to your logic, so many countries all over the world with good trade relations with each other are interfering in each others matter as well.....if you think so, you can cut off all trade links with India....you're free to do that.....and that indicates you are a sovereign country.

If India doesn't interfere why did BDs lost their electoral rights to freely elect their leader this year. We should have had an change in gov via a free electroral process this 5 th jan but did India let it happen? Didn't India oppenly backed Hasina's autocratic stance to hold on to power? If it weren't for kangress and GOI Hasina would have been either in jail or in self-imposed exile by now. Lets not go on abt water terrorism, border shootings and barriers to bilateral trade and commerce. imposed by India's complex non-tarrif barriers.

Btw u don't know the first thing abt BD's politics and political parties but is going on abt "Jaamati/BNP propaganda". Hindutva loons do seem to love making a clown out of themselves.

 

[Hashshāshīn]

No.