Can Babur and Raad penitrate Indian defence system

[Safriz]

India wont need anything like Patriot missile to defend against Pakistan's Cruise missiles..They will need a good SAM..because cruise missiles are like your normal aircraft with an air breathing engine..The only difference is that unlike an aircraft a cruise missile can pull very high G.If used wisely and with good planning,it can be as good as stealth..Radar waves dont bend and dont follow terrain,and the missile can hide behind hills,mountains and buildings...How good is india's radar network for detecting and tracking an incoming Pakistani cruise,i dont know.

 

[kingdurgaking]

No doubt Cruise missile will add punch to your armed force.. but it is handled effectively by Indian defence network ..We are already networking our defence .... On top of it we are adding 20 AEWC & AWACS which will monitor the border effectively.. In addition to it... Lot of aerostats are purchased to monitor the borders...
Not sure whether Pakistan are aware that Indian Radars are designed for multilayered defence ... Once the missiles are detected ... it is easy to intercept by Airforce even with cannon.... A dozen of cruise missile shot down will really put your strategy in back foot..
And our planners are aware of what is needed to tackle these subsonic missiles with large number of aerostat which will be mass produced shortly..
But think whether your planners have planned anything to tackle our cruise missile which will cruise to destination ...

 

[Capt.Popeye]

India wont need anything like Patriot missile to defend against Pakistan's Cruise missiles..They will need a good SAM..because cruise missiles are like your normal aircraft with an air breathing engine..The only difference is that unlike an aircraft a cruise missile can pull very high G.If used wisely and with good planning,it can be as good as stealth..Radar waves dont bend and dont follow terrain,and the missile can hide behind hills,mountains and buildings...How good is india's radar network for detecting and tracking an incoming Pakistani cruise,i dont know.

Good points in your post.
About Radar, you've some pertinent points. Question is what terrain the cruise missiles will fly over on their flight paths to their targets. If we look at a topographical map we can make some assessments as to where those features can be used to advantage. But that applies primarily to ground based radar. Air-borne radar (AWACS and AeroStats) can be a game changer. Esp. if the radar coverage is layered.

 

[TaimiKhan]

When we didn't launch an attack on Pakistan after 26/11, that was the maturity and professionalism of our forces. We gained more than we could have with an armed assault.

Hundreds of people die in Pakistan today, and we didn't even fire a single shot. That is the power of diplomacy. And using diplomacy is what an intelligent nation does to meet its objectives. Who's in a mess now?? Guess that answers your question.

 

[pak avatar]

Wont Pakistan use the cruise missiles mainly to neutralize India's forward airbases the ones we targeted in 1965 war in order to achieve air superiority rather then allow our limited planes to be target practice for the S-300s
Secondly arent the cruise missiles nucluer capable. If India can detect them isnt there the possibility tht they would consider it a nuclear strike thereby destroying both countries

 

[Sinnerman108]

Taimi

Please correct the spelling, penitrate to Penetrate !

it just sounds dirty !

 

[aakash_2410]

There is no indication that Indian radars can even pick the Babur, perhaps not many radars can - not successfully, not till its too late, not a significant percentage of times.

Targeting terrain hugging missiles is no joke. Once you can target it, you can hit it, for sure.

Yeah like it has been fired many times before and Indian radars didn't pick them up?
You're an administrator bro.

 

[Areesh]

Taimi

Please correct the spelling, penitrate to Penetrate !

it just sounds dirty !

 

[deckingraj]

Wont Pakistan use the cruise missiles mainly to neutralize India's forward airbases the ones we targeted in 1965 war in order to achieve air superiority rather then allow our limited planes to be target practice for the S-300s
Secondly arent the cruise missiles nucluer capable. If India can detect them isnt there the possibility tht they would consider it a nuclear strike thereby destroying both countries

Very good point. I asked the same question in a similar discussion. I was told about the concept of hot line which will negate this threat to some extent. However i still believe that due to the proximity b/w two countries there is always a real chance of making mistakes and getting engulfed in a nuke showdown. IMHO both parties will stay away from using missiles on highly sensitive targets and merely use it to drive the message..."bug off"

 

[S-A-B-E-R->]

Wont Pakistan use the cruise missiles mainly to neutralize India's forward airbases the ones we targeted in 1965 war in order to achieve air superiority rather then allow our limited planes to be target practice for the S-300s
Secondly arent the cruise missiles nucluer capable. If India can detect them isnt there the possibility tht they would consider it a nuclear strike thereby destroying both countries

well yes but that depends on the nature of the war and the scenarios in it
yes it ll be most optimum to neutralize FOBs and static SAM sites .it a strategic/tactical weapon and Pakistan is not stupid to start a nuclear war just at the start of war when it have the ability to gain advantage through strengthening its defenses and taking out immediate threats across border ...which is easier as least amount of exposure to the cruse missiles against SAM or other threat .
and i dont think babur on it self ll be used for deep strikes it may be a job for RAAD but once the near border threats r eliminated airforce ll be at full offense to suppress the enemy
its just a scenario plz dont take it personally

 

[rockstarIN]

Wont Pakistan use the cruise missiles mainly to neutralize India's forward airbases the ones we targeted in 1965 war in order to achieve air superiority rather then allow our limited planes to be target practice for the S-300s
Secondly arent the cruise missiles nucluer capable. If India can detect them isnt there the possibility tht they would consider it a nuclear strike thereby destroying both countries

Do not forget Harpy's which India possess. Indian response will be a salvo of Harpy's on Pakistan radar stations followed by cruise/balistic missile attack and air force attack. Harpy's our trump cards for ourt response.

 

[rockstarIN]

India wont need anything like Patriot missile to defend against Pakistan's Cruise missiles..They will need a good SAM..because cruise missiles are like your normal aircraft with an air breathing engine..The only difference is that unlike an aircraft a cruise missile can pull very high G.If used wisely and with good planning,it can be as good as stealth..Radar waves dont bend and dont follow terrain,and the missile can hide behind hills,mountains and buildings...How good is india's radar network for detecting and tracking an incoming Pakistani cruise,i dont know.

Where comes airborne early warning systems for cruise missile detection, but no defense is offering a foolproof defense against even ballistic missile

 

[S-A-B-E-R->]

Do not forget Harpy's which India possess. Indian response will be a salvo of Harpy's on Pakistan radar stations followed by cruise/balistic missile attack and air force attack. Harpy's our trump cards for ourt response.

isnt harpy too slow for such an attack i mean its a uav and have to fly at high altitude also it not that stealthy ??

 

[TaimiKhan]

Do not forget Harpy's which India possess. Indian response will be a salvo of Harpy's on Pakistan radar stations followed by cruise/balistic missile attack and air force attack. Harpy's our trump cards for ourt response.

So, if Indian radars can detect babur from miles, can't the Pak radars detect Harpys and shoot them down ??

Whatever India has becomes unbeatable and trump card, while whatever Pakistan has, it will be shot down.

How you guys got the Martian technology ??

 

[Developereo]

The Indians seem to be banking on AWACS as a game changer, which raises the question, do we have an AWACS-killer missile?

Previously some Indians were talking about buying a Russian Novator K-100. Does China have something similar (FT-2000)?

Clearly AWACS are the heavily protected queen of the sky that need to be eliminated ASAP.