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Burqa - A Security Challenge?

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It's Ramazan and Eid at the end of it - markets will be full of primarily, women shoppers - It's incredible but how many will have to be put at risk -- it's also interesting that thus far the government has no public relations campaign aimed at educating the public about the risks and danger, on this issue - The responses of the State continue to play into the hands of the islamist terrorists --- consider the editorial below:


EDITORIAL: A black widow in Peshawar

The ‘piety’ of terrorism’s holy warriors has shown its true colours — the sanctity of the holy month of Ramzan seems irrelevant to them as evidenced by the latest attack against the citizens of Pakistan. On Thursday, two bomb blasts struck the police in Peshawar when, first, a police van was targeted by a remote controlled device (planted in a handcart) that went off when the van was passing through the Lahori Gate area. Five policemen were killed in the attack and many others wounded. A second blast took place in the same vicinity two hours later when bystanders, media crews and medical services thronged the site. It is obvious that the attacker was looking to maximise the damage and casualties by this second strike, possibly to include senior police and other officials, a tactic increasingly in use by the terrorists. Luckily, the suicide bomber was stopped at a check post a little distance from where the crowds had gathered and after throwing a grenade at the check post, exploded her suicide jacket just short of the first bomb blast site. The woman suicide bomber was killed and in all, 42 people, mostly policemen, were injured in both blasts.

It is interesting that the suicide bomber was a woman. The last time a female suicide bomber was employed was when a husband and wife duo blew themselves up near a World Food Programme centre in Bajaur in late June. Does this imply an emerging pattern of recruiting women as suicide bombers? It is no secret that women in our culture, especially in a conservative society like Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, are hardly ever frisked or searched when it comes to security checks. Where a woman in a burqa is concerned, any chances of being frisked by male police officers are reduced to nil. It seems that the very culture that the terrorists claim to uphold — of keeping a woman untouched by male hands and covered in a burqa as well — is exactly what these monsters are using against us. If women are the new lethal weapons against the citizens and the state then counter-measures must be drawn up to face this threat. Women, especially those in the baggy burqa, need to be searched without exception. For that, female police officers must be stationed at check posts and security stations throughout the country.

Pakistan is in the throes of a convulsion that is eating it up from the inside. The spectre of terrorism is a phenomenon that its perpetrators claim is a struggle in the name of Islam but is, in fact, a bloody stain on the faith it claims to uphold. These murderers will go to any lengths to achieve the mayhem they desire to overthrow the existing order in the country and replace it with an antediluvian return to a historically moribund idea of khilafat (caliphate). They make no distinction between men, women, or children, either as human bombs or victims. Apart from the emerging use of women, they recruit children as young as nine years old for suicide bombings and do not hesitate to attack in cold blood during the holy month. This is not a movement looking to impose a sacred way of life; it is a group bent on domination through terror and blood. The only way to effectively counter this threat is to increase the effectiveness of our intelligence work so that any attacks in the pipeline can hopefully be nipped in the bud. From infiltration into these terror groups to increased monitoring and surveillance, the entire range of intelligence methods and expertise can help slash, if not roll back, the incidence of these attacks.
 
what U.S did against car suicide attacks or men suicide attacks???? (here i am not supporting suicide attacks)
If a man is willing to kill him self how can you stop him or her??
leave alone the burqa ...... if she is wearing simple dopata or chadar to cover herself how could one detect that she is covering something in her chadar or dopata.........
 
The present discussion about the burka is similar to talking about the color of a bandage, while a large abscess underneath that requires an incision to drain continues to grow.
 
Why not station female Army officers or something to check the women thoroughly in a separate area rather than let this latest trend increase? Also, it is best to use some sort of sensors for bomb detections at artificial check posts.

nothing can be done my freind........ how many female officers ... and if suicide attacker reach to the officer and blow herself then what???
it need to educate the people nothing else .. Ulema should take the responsibly .
one thing must be clear they are not muslims for sure using the name of islam but Kharjis use the name of islam from the very begging.
 
The present discussion about the burka is similar to talking about the color of a bandage, while a large abscess underneath that requires an incision to drain continues to grow.

yes that is the point where i was debating yesterday.
its not the burqa its the mind ......
the mind behind the suicide attacks. the reasons . and the background.
we are living in a country if we want we could have researched what are the reasons.
but as whole the nation is Sust and Kahil(dont know english words)
 
nothing can be done my freind........ how many female officers ... and if suicide attacker reach to the officer and blow herself then what???
it need to educate the people nothing else .. Ulema should take the responsibly .
one thing must be clear they are not muslims for sure using the name of islam but Kharjis use the name of islam from the very begging.

May I ask what has the ULEMA done so far? Something bold, visible and with the result?And how many of these Ulemas have the desire and will to do so
? Bear in mind that the problem can be tackled and should be tackled in the whloe region and not specifically Pakistan, if we try to tackle it in PAKISTAN ONLY, then it wont work.
 
s whole the nation is Sust and Kahil

I would agree but I don't fault the nation - Leadership, Secular and Religious, have been a failure - in particular, the unwillingness to educate people about the issues involved and most prominently, the failure by Ulema to educate people with regard to claims of these terrorists, to "Islam" and being "Islamic" - indeed the politicians and the Ulema themselves are confused and lets admit it, they are scared and some sympathize with the terrorists and share their ideals.
 
Nothing ........
Ulema had done nothing in this regard. few who took initiative were killed. others are fearing if they said something against. tehy might be next.
and i also agree that this is not only pakistan's problem this is regions problem.
as Vchang said we are talking about the color of the bandage we dont want to see what is underneath the bandage.
 
The only way to effectively counter this threat is to increase the effectiveness of our intelligence work so that any attacks in the pipeline can hopefully be nipped in the bud. From infiltration into these terror groups to increased monitoring and surveillance, the entire range of intelligence methods and expertise can help slash, if not roll back, the incidence of these attacks.


Excellent and we can all agree on this - but this is a double edged sword -- because it will invariably conflict with constitutional civil liberties and the size and scope of the state's ability to snoop and coerce, be and history has shown, will be, used to promote agendas that we can do without.
 
The only way to effectively counter this threat is to increase the effectiveness of our intelligence work so that any attacks in the pipeline can hopefully be nipped in the bud. From infiltration into these terror groups to increased monitoring and surveillance, the entire range of intelligence methods and expertise can help slash, if not roll back, the incidence of these attacks.


Very good post.
who posted i thank him for this great post.
 
The 'woman suicide bomber' is the main reason for discussion about burqa here. Well we have seen countless number of suicide attacks by males but no one discussed the 'qameez' of male. Should we consider making rule that all men will go topless or just in vests?

Why dont we work on cutting off the supply lines where these terrorists get all the arms and ammunition from. Lets take the example of recent london riots, they do not have easy access to weapons, otherwise there must have been countless killings.
 
SMR

You are late to the discussion - please review the thread and you will see we have dealt rather extensively with the concerns you raise.
 
If we check women, it would not be long before someone makes this as an excuse, and voila, you have 'peaceful' demonstrations all over the country in which losses occur.
 
If we check women, it would not be long before someone makes this as an excuse, and voila, you have 'peaceful' demonstrations all over the country in which losses occur.

Well then there has to be some place where your forces have to clamp down. Simply letting gun culture dominate over the law would mean that there would be anarchy.
 
The present discussion about the burka is similar to talking about the color of a bandage, while a large abscess underneath that requires an incision to drain continues to grow.

This is what those of us in the middle have been saying all along while extremists on both sides use the issue to push their own agenda.

The core problem is terrorism -- the mindless obsession with the burqa only distracts from the real issues.

Perhaps more people will eventually understand Imran Khan's concerns about overzealous agendas on either extreme and seek to moderate their stance to find real solutions to Pakistan's problems instead of grandstanding.
 
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