Britain is No Longer a Major Military Power

[Guynextdoor2]

@Blue Marlin I think you guys are being unreasonable in criticizing astute as too slow to match the QE's supposed 30 knots. On diesel, fully loaded with personnel, AC and aaviation fuel, it'll do a 'regal' 10 knots gently plying the waves. You queen can then look at it and say 'kawl me lisbeth' . Trust me, astute's 20 knots is more than eough for that

 

[Blue Marlin]

@Blue Marlin I think you guys are being unreasonable in criticizing astute as too slow to match the QE's supposed 30 knots. On diesel, fully loaded with personnel, AC and aaviation fuel, it'll do a 'regal' 10 knots gently plying the waves. You queen can then look at it and say 'kawl me lisbeth' . Trust me, astute's 20 knots is more than eough for that

you do know its powered by the latest Rolls Royce mt30 gas turbines.
the same engines powering this......

and this.....

 

[Guynextdoor2]

you do know its powered by the latest Rolls Royce mt30 gas turbines.
the same engines powering this......

Alright...so you used an engine that powers a 14000 T ship to power a 65000 T ship, that's when your ship begins to look like this....

 

[Brutas]

Britain and it's dominions and territories are still a world power. English speaking UK-Canada-Australia-New Zealand were/are/will continue to be the biggest cheer leader of Washington in any future conflict.

 

[Steve781]

At least we're not trying to drag the whole of Europe into another devastating war as Poland and your SS parading friends in the Baltics insist on doing.
If you're so tough you should try fighting your battles alone without hiding behind NATO.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Just export some ships to Pakistan and you will see Indians crying foul and acknowledging the power balance has been tilted

 

[Beast]

We aren't going to fight them anyway so it doesn't matter.

The fact is that Britain, along with France, USA and Russia are currently able to project their military power across the globe, fighting wars (sometimes multiple) in other continents. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and now Syria.

This kind of power projection is what developing countries like China still lack. And even if we get the capability, it's still another thing entirely to be able to carry it out.

Nonsense. Just becos China didn't start a war does not prove China do not have power projection. China don't just for the sake of proving it's capabilities and use other countries as spare target.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Nonsense. Just becos China didn't start a war does not prove China do not have power projection. China don't just for the sake of proving it's capabilities and use other countries as spare target.

Then let us prove our capabilities first, before boasting like the Indian members here do?

The rest of the P5 are actively fighting in the Middle East right now, their power projection capabilities have been proven in battle.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

On their own they lost all wars of WW2. Dunkirk, Indo- China, they were on a losing streak until the americams came in.

but they proved their bravery and power in korean war and the imaginary war in 1962 with supa pawa.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Then let us prove our capabilities first, before boasting like the Indian members here do?

The rest of the P5 are actively fighting in the Middle East right now, their power projection capabilities have been proven in battle.

There, THIS is what it was all leading up to. Admit it . Ohhhhh china is a develoing country, ohhh....GDP is like this and that. You wanted to take up this cheap shot and you got it. Are you happy now?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

There, THIS is what it was all leading up to. Admit it . Ohhhhh china is a develoing country, ohhh....GDP is like this and that. You wanted to take up this cheap shot and you got it. Are you happy now?

Now that you mention it...

But let's be honest, the Indian President Kalam already declared that India was a superpower in 2012. And not a single Indian member here has the kind of education, intelligence and respect that Kalam has.

China on the other hand really is a developing country, because our GDP per capita is below the standard used. That's all there is, if you are below the line you are not considered a developed country.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Now that you mention it...

But let's be honest, the Indian President Kalam already declared that India was a superpower in 2012. And not a single Indian member here has the kind of education, intelligence and respect that Kalam has.

China on the other hand really is a developing country, because our GDP per capita is below the standard used. That's all there is, if you are below the line you are not considered a developed country.

Everything Kalam did was right. President is a purely titular position. His job is to inspire. He set and asked people to achieve those set targets. That's his job. He is sorely missed by his people even today- years after he passed away. No leader in recent times that I know of in China enjoyed such respect.

You missed so many points:
- India had not even crossed 1 Trillion in 2005, it's 2.5 T now. A tripling of economy in 15 years is no mean feat
- India started reforms 15 to 20 years after China, so a lag of 15 to 20 years is considered an optimal target, GDP growth cannot go beyond a certail extent without inviting inflation
- It is expected that India will have a 2% lag due to democratic processes, that too seems to be within specified range

India seems to be reliably following a constant growth pattern consistent with known economic phenomena.

@Chinese-Dragon let me give you an interesting Tit Bit. India's GDP today is 2.6 Trillion. You joined the forum at about 2006? So India's GDP is the same as what your country's was when you joined the forum. And chinese trolls were bragging 'great china, mother china', even then

 

[bobo6661]

I dont agree with it GB is still a major power and with the addition of new carriers it will grow more the Indians can;p

well most job eastern Europeans do labouring jobs such as, plasterer, bricklayer, labourer etc........
either that or they open up shops specialising in eastern European food.

they dont steal our jobs just leach money in the form of benfits and rent.

most english folk dont wanna do that as its considered as a diry job.

mind you i know a brick layer who earns well over £100k and he's polish

Its funny to be called a leach by one of the biggest Leach in history ;p

At least we're not trying to drag the whole of Europe into another devastating war as Poland and your SS parading friends in the Baltics insist on doing.
If you're so tough you should try fighting your battles alone without hiding behind NATO.

Oh yes so it was us invading Ukraine ... If you dont like it quit Nato our try to kick Poland then ... If not then Poland has the right to request Help ...

 

[flamer84]

At least we're not trying to drag the whole of Europe into another devastating war as Poland and your SS parading friends in the Baltics insist on doing.
If you're so tough you should try fighting your battles alone without hiding behind NATO.

At least we're not trying to drag the whole of Europe into another devastating war as Poland and your SS parading friends in the Baltics insist on doing.
If you're so tough you should try fighting your battles alone without hiding behind NATO.

Rich coming from someone whose country banded over backwards just to dragg the US in the last 2 world wars so they might actually win... not to mention the US umbrella in the COld War....
About the SS parades,it might seem odd to you but,despite loosing WW2,some countries are allowed,and should celebrate the men who fought for them,especially since your Soviet buddies weren t so different from the nazis.

 

[xyxmt]

IT NEVER WAS A MAJOR MILITARY POWER!!!!!!!

I can't understand how they managed to con everyone for so long!



the day they declared the Falklands a major war itself this became clear.

they rod US shoulders for as long as they could but with Trump it doesnt seem possible anymore