Breaking: Russia Just deployed Su57/PAKFA in Syria at Khmemeim Airbase in latakia

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Failed logic again. Air to ground cruise missile trials can be done anywhere considering Syria is not exactly the right terrain for true performance parameter of a cruise missile. Knowing the fact that all the cruise that were lobbed were from sea!

I think it’s the engine endurance testing and things related to it.

Anything else didn’t make sense.

Cruise missiles can be land launched, air launched, sea launched. Air launched have the longest range.

 

[Fledgingwings]

Any credible source or pics?

 

[The SC]

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I think Su-57 is a tad more advanced than F-22 because 360 degrees radar coverage. F-22 has front radar only. Su-57 has side radars and rear radar.

 

[500]

I think Su-57 is a tad more advanced than F-22 because 360 degrees radar coverage. F-22 has front radar only. Su-57 has side radars and rear radar.

Su-57 simply does not exist. There is only T-50 testbed. Currently it can only drop unguided bombs from external mount.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Su-57 simply does not exist. There is only T-50 testbed. Currently it can only drop unguided bombs from external mount.

Su-57 is under combat trials. Israel cannot build a manned jet.

 

[The SC]

I think Su-57 is a tad more advanced than F-22 because 360 degrees radar coverage. F-22 has front radar only. Su-57 has side radars and rear radar.

The F-22 has sensors all over (underneath it skin).. and the SU-57 is also skin sensitive.. as for the radar numbers that might be right..

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Su-57 simply does not exist. There is only T-50 testbed. Currently it can only drop unguided bombs from external mount.

Su-57 is under combat trials. Israel cannot build a manned jet.

The F-22 has sensors all over (underneath it skin).. and the SU-57 is also skin sensitive.. as for the radar numbers that might be right..

F-22 that's RWR, passive not active. RWR is not comparable to radar which is active.

 

[500]

Su-57 is under combat trials.

No its just a test bed.

Israel cannot build a manned jet.

The world is global. It's silly to build a full jet. Israel produces parts of F-35 worth billions of $. Israeli GNP per capita is twice higher than Russian.

 

[ptldM3]

Su-57 simply does not exist. There is only T-50 testbed. Currently it can only drop unguided bombs from external mount.

Jesus Christ stop embarrassing yourself. The Pak-fa tested all weapons and just because we don't have photos or videos of the weapons bays with weapons doesn't mean it hasn't been tested.

 

[The SC]

Su-57 is under combat trials. Israel cannot build a manned jet.



F-22 that's RWR, passive not active. RWR is not comparable to radar which is active.

AESA Radar can have both modes..

AESAs can also be switched to a receive-only mode, and use these powerful jamming signals to track its source, something that required a separate receiver in older platforms. By integrating received signals from the targets' own radar along with a lower rate of data from its own broadcasts, a detection system with a precise RWR like an AESA can generate more data with less energy. Some receive beamforming-capable systems, usually ground-based, may even discard a transmitter entirely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_electronically_scanned_array

 

[gambit]

I think Su-57 is a tad more advanced than F-22 because 360 degrees radar coverage. F-22 has front radar only. Su-57 has side radars and rear radar.

There is an inverse relationship between beamwidth and antenna size. Inverse = Opposite.

Essentially, for any given operating freq, the smaller the antenna, the larger the beamwidth, which is not always a good thing.

http://code7700.com/radar_beam_width.htm

Size matters. The larger the plate antenna on your radar the narrower the beam,...

The large beamwidth is good for volume, meaning the radar can scan larger areas of the sky, but cannot distinguish out individual targets that flies close together. Against the F-22, a large beamwidth is the worst thing to have.

The PAK is supposed to have active arrays at different locations on the jet. That is fine. But those arrays will not be anything larger than a hand's span. If those small arrays uses freqs longer than centimetric, the beamwidths will be nothing more than volume search. If they uses centimetric freqs, the F-22 and F-35 are shaped against those bands anyway.

Efficacy is not the same thing as efficiency.

- Efficiency = Can it do with the least amount of resources?

- Efficacy = Can it produce a desired or intended result?

So just because the PAK have something the F-22 does not, it goes not make the PAK 'more advanced'. It is about the efficacy of the technology that matters.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

No its just a test bed.

Su-47 was a testbed. Su-57 is a production plane.

Israeli GNP per capita is twice higher than Russian.

Doesn't mean anything. The most precious thing in the world is land. Land is what everyone fights for since the beginning of humanity. Israel doesn't have as much land as Russia does.

 

[500]

Jesus Christ stop embarrassing yourself. The Pak-fa tested all weapons and just because we don't have photos or videos of the weapons bays with weapons doesn't mean it hasn't been tested.


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Missile integration is very long process.

1) Carriage tests.
2) Drop tests.
3) Fire tests.
4) Guidance tests.
5) Drills.

So far T-50 is on 1st stage. For external weapons. Internal weapons did still 0.

 

[ptldM3]

Missile integration is very long process.

1) Carriage tests.
2) Drop tests.
3) Fire tests.
4) Guidance tests.
5) Drills.

So far T-50 is on 1st stage. For external weapons. Internal weapons did still 0.

Thanks you for your brilliant insight but not even Sukhoi has released any information regarding the progress of the weapons testing. The T-50-053 and T-50-054 were photographed in 2014 with weapons. T-50-053 was the first prototype to test weapons, it first flew in 2011.

So you are telling people that in over 3 years Sukhoi have not completed anything because you didn't witness it firsthand. let me give them a call so they can show you classified information on the pak-fa, maybe you can witness some live fire tests. Can you give us some close pics of the cockpit too, it must not have a cockpit since Sukhoi hasn't released any pictures of it