Breaking News: Bakhmut has fallen

[MH.Yang]

Seriously I am trying to figure out some of you guys @aziqbal

are you getting paid to repeat Russian propaganda ?
Or are you really mistreated in the West ?



What is the exact crib about NATO eastward expansion ?
countries have the freedom to join NATO. I thought Chinese parroted non-interference in internal affairs of other countries

What would Ukranians not join EU ?

Correct you:

China's diplomatic principle is' non-interference in each other's internal affairs'. Pay attention to 'each other'.

It means that when the Ukrainian government participates in China's internal affairs, China will also have reason to interfere in Ukraine's internal affairs.

 

[nahtanbob]

Correct you:

It means that when the Ukrainian government participates in China's internal affairs, China will also have reason to interfere in Ukraine's internal affairs.

Exactly what has Ukraine done to interfere in China's internal affairs ?

I am not accusing China of interfering in Ukraine's internal affairs

 

[xyxmt]

Pakistani talking about national interest of Ukraine ?? you can talk all you want about Pakistan

So the Russia Ukraine fights is about not giving rights to Ukranians to immigrate. ??
Says who ?? What do you think happens when Ukraine joins EU ?

I can only talk all about Pakistan?? but you can butt in to every country's affairs like you own it, fool them to be behind them, use them as toilet paper for your agenda and then move on to next country. Get real there is blood of million of people on your hands. I will ask you 5 years from now how sympathetic you still are for Ukraine....remember the same love you had for Iraqi people when Sadam was supposedly using Chemical weapons on them LMAO on his own people and your heart was crying for people of Iraq, so you used that famous Collin Power united nation cartoon briefing....this is same situation, you have not changed...so stop showing you sympathy for Ukraine. Iraqi people woke up later in the conflict and turned against you and same will happen in Ukraine...I dont know if Biden or the next PM will make the victory speech LOL

 

[MH.Yang]

Exactly what has Ukraine done to interfere in China's internal affairs ?

I am not accusing China of interfering in Ukraine's internal affairs

I did not accuse the Ukrainian government of interfering in China's internal affairs. I just made a hypothesis.

I am just reminding you not to ignore the 'each other' in China's diplomatic principles.

 

[nahtanbob]

I can only talk all about Pakistan?? but you can butt in to every country's affairs like you own it, fool them to be behind them, use them as toilet paper for your agenda and then move on to next country. Get real there is blood of million of people on your hands. I will ask you 5 years from now how sympathetic you still are for Ukraine....remember the same love you had for Iraqi people when Sadam was supposedly using Chemical weapons on them LMAO on his own people and your heart was crying for people of Iraq, so you used that famous Collin Power united nation cartoon briefing....this is same situation, you have not changed...so stop showing you sympathy for Ukraine. Iraqi people woke up later in the conflict and turned against you and same will happen in Ukraine...I dont know if Biden or the next PM will make the victory speech LOL

Did Iraqis die for Saddam ?

What makes you think Ukraine is fighting for America ? they are fighting for themselves

 

[gambit]

Exactly what has Ukraine done to interfere in China's internal affairs ?

I am not accusing China of interfering in Ukraine's internal affairs

Anything can be interpreted to be 'interference' to at least put on a facade of victimhood to justify retaliation.

 

[Han Patriot]

Did Iraqis die for Saddam ?

What makes you think Ukraine is fighting for America ? they are fighting for themselves

Zelensky is a Jewish puppet. You know it and I know it.

 

[nahtanbob]

Zelensky is a Jewish puppet. You know it and I know it.

throwing epiphets around does not change anything

If I am an Ukranian I want to be part of EU not Putin or Stalin's Russia. Nothing stops the Chinese and Pakistanis of the world from heading to Russia

 

[OIO]

throwing epiphets around does not change anything

If I am an Ukranian I want to be part of EU not Putin or Stalin's Russia. Nothing stops the Chinese and Pakistanis of the world from heading to Russia

You can't find the right answer without thinking in terms of global geopolitics.

The EU's attitude towards China has changed. They know that if China wants to gain short-term benefits through war, the EU will disappear.

But if the EU or NATO's military assistance to Ukraine exceeds the critical point, the situation will change. China wants peace in Eurasia, including Ukraine and Russia.

 

[nahtanbob]

You can't find the right answer without thinking in terms of global geopolitics.

The EU's attitude towards China has changed. They know that if China wants to gain short-term benefits through war, the EU will disappear.

But if the EU or NATO's military assistance to Ukraine exceeds the critical point, the situation will change. China wants peace in Eurasia, including Ukraine and Russia.

Quit farting ...
If I am an Ukranian I want to be part of EU not Putin or Stalin's Russia. Nothing stops the Chinese and Pakistanis of the world from heading to Russia


The EU is the most powerful economic bloc on the planet.

Chinese/Russian weapons versus EU weapons - the EU wins

 

[Han Patriot]

throwing epiphets around does not change anything

If I am an Ukranian I want to be part of EU not Putin or Stalin's Russia. Nothing stops the Chinese and Pakistanis of the world from heading to Russia

Now now, this conflict has nothing to do with us. Are you sure all Ukrainians?

 

[OIO]

Quit farting ...
If I am an Ukranian I want to be part of EU not Putin or Stalin's Russia. Nothing stops the Chinese and Pakistanis of the world from heading to Russia


The EU is the most powerful economic bloc on the planet.

Chinese/Russian weapons versus EU weapons - the EU wins

The German economy has already declined. Tell me what are the advantageous industries of the EU economy?

The EU's military is a joke, who gave you confidence?

 

[nahtanbob]

Now now, this conflict has nothing to do with us. Are you sure all Ukrainians?

Tell us why any Ukranian wants to be a part of Putin's Russia rather than the EU
Tell us how many Pakistanis or Chinese show up in Russia as opposed to EU

The German economy has already declined. Tell me what are the advantageous industries of the EU economy?

The EU's military is a joke, who gave you confidence?

Tell us what Russia has other being a giant gas pumping station

 

[Han Patriot]

Personally I don't care about Ukraine but this war can be a lesson to China. I see the Russians are now attacking more sensibly and not emotionally. Bakhmut is the biggest strategic turning point and it shows the Russians can be cunning instead of just being brute. It was the meat grinder strategy. Initially they over extended and were losing men recklessly. Then they retreated and regrouped accross the Dnipr, building up and fortifying their defenses. Then used Bakhmut as a meat grinder and lure the Ukrainians in. Using their advantage in artillery and missiles, they just avoided direct warfare and grinded the Ukrainians with misdiles and artillery. This will be taught in military strategy classes in the future.

 

[One_Nation]

From taking over Ukraine swiftly in weeks to occupying an unknown town. Russia is clearly beyond defeated.