Bollywood: the Ideology of India

[KRAIT]

This is not about Pakistanis watching Bollywood; it's about Indians watching it.

Still, why do you guys watch it? Its against your culture.

 

[Hamzay]

Two nation theory is a failed one. It was not able to hold Pakistan together in '71.

Interestingly even after all the huffing and puffing by separatists of all sorts India stays one country. Quite a remarkable feat for a private movie industry!

What I find really amusing is that if your conclusion and reasoning is given any kind of weightage that would mean -- in inference -- Jinnah's two nation theory was weaker than India's movie industry and Jinnah didn't have any vision in front of likes of Dada Saheb Phalke who laid the foundation of Indian movie industry. Jinnah must be rolling in his grave . -- may be like this?

Perhaps you don't know what Two Nation Theory is. It states that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations who can't coexist together in a country. We proved it in 1947, and Sheikh Mujib proved it again in 1971 when he didn't merge East Pakistan with West Bengal and continued separating Bengali Muslims from Bengali Hindus and the rest of India. Bangladesh is a member of Organisation of Islamic Conference and her state religion is Islam.

 

[Srinivas]

Every now and then a kid comes straight from a modarssa or a school from Pakistan and learns the truth about India and dubious history they learnt.

This is your journey.

You might be surprised at the title of this thread, but I have found this the strongest string that unites India's multilingual, multicultural, multi-religious masses and a multitude of issues and problems.




Not a key contribution to economy. But it's not about economy at all.





Here's a demography of India's religions:

Bollywood is the opium of masses.

Hamzay

Conclusion: India doesn't have an ideology like the 'Two Nation Theory' that created Pakistan. So, India has to 'sedate her wild populations' with Bollywood. This is the cheap vision of this 'great country'.

 

[Hamzay]

The Two Nation Theory struck India twice (1947 and 1971); Bengali Muslims believed in it in 1947 and they held it in 1971 till this day.

Every now and then a kid comes straight from a modarssa or a school from Pakistan and learns the truth about India and dubious history they learnt.

This is your journey.

Actually we are not taught Sa-Re-Ga-Ma-Pa in our schools and how to shake our butt and sing like a nightingale.. so we are able to analyse things that are used to sedate a whole people.

 

[Srinivas]

The Two Nation Theory struck India twice (1947 and 1971); Bengali Muslims believed in it in 1947 and they held it in 1971 till this day.



Actually we are not taught Sa-Re-Ga-Ma-Pa in our schools and how to shake our butt and sing like a nightingale.. so we are able to analyse things that are used to sedate a whole people.

don't do comedy dude, only pakistanis celebrate invading forces and defeats.

 

[Hamzay]

We make more than 1000 movies a year and Bollywood contribution is only 200-250 per year.Number of movies about your country are just few in number and it is only Bollywood who dishes out war movies for hindi audience. For our regional movies in south and east, Pakistan is irrelevant. Yet our country is still united under pluralistic, secular republic guided by our constitution.

But, the whole point is that India is the nationalism of an idea. It's the idea of an ever-ever-land, emerging from an ancient civilization, united by a shared history, but sustained, above all, by pluralist democracy. That is a 21st-century story as well as an ancient one. And it's the nationalism of an idea that essentially says you can endure differences of caste, creed, color, culture, cuisine, custom and costume, consonant, for that matter, and still rally around a consensus. And the consensus is of a very simple principle, that in a diverse plural democracy like India you don't really have to agree on everything all the time, so long as you agree on the ground rules of how you will disagree. The great success story of India, a country that so many learned scholars and journalists assumed would disintegrate, in the '50s and '60s, is that it managed to maintain consensus on how to survive without consensus. --Shashi Tharoor (Ted talk)

There's a clear divide in India between the North and the South. Bollywood mostly entertains the North, though a part of it is dubbed in the South native languages also. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Indian politics is dominated by the elites in the North, is a factor.

Not all states are following the same principles of unification; e.g some states in India are run under socialists/communists.

And where there's insurgency or secessionist movements, it's not subdued through 'Indian Nationalism' but by the use of force (Armed Forces Special Powers Act).

Ironically, Indian Nationalism failed twice in history; first time in 1947 when Pakistan was created in the name of religion and then again in 1971 when East Pakistan/Bangladesh did not merge with West Bengal/India in the name of Indian Nationalism.

Still, why do you guys watch it? Its against your culture.

This is not a point of discussion, at least in this thread.

 

[turbofan7a]

You might be surprised at the title of this thread, but I have found this the strongest string that unites India's multilingual, multicultural, multi-religious masses and a multitude of issues and problems.




Not a key contribution to economy. But it's not about economy at all.





Here's a demography of India's religions:

Bollywood is the opium of masses.

Hamzay

Conclusion: India doesn't have an ideology like the 'Two Nation Theory' that created Pakistan. So, India has to 'sedate her wild populations' with Bollywood. This is the cheap vision of this 'great country'.

Bollywood's power is so great that even our sworn enemies watch and dance on its songs.

 

[Hamzay]

Bollywood's power is so great that even our sworn enemies watch and dance on its songs.

It proves my point that Bollywood is sedation, opium for the masses

And it is being used as an Ideology to unite India.

 

[turbofan7a]

It proves my point that Bollywood is sedation, opium for the masses

And it is being used as an Ideology to unite India.

Bollywood is definitely sedating our enemies and winning them over.

 

[Hamzay]

Pakistan and Bangladesh have set a precedence for those of Indian ethnicity and creed who want to secede from the clutches of Indian oppression.

Bollywood is definitely sedating our enemies and winning them over.

Oh no, we don't watch these idiots that much who speak like jokers. We only watch Khans who speak good Urdu.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

My advice to people.....stay away from bollywood...good for your eyes, health and mental health. Infact stay away from all the movies made in India.

 

[turbofan7a]

Pakistan and Bangladesh have set a precedence for those of Indian ethnicity and creed who want to secede from the clutches of Indian oppression.



Oh no, we don't watch these idiots that much who speak like jokers. We only watch Khans who speak good Urdu.

Very funny, and where do you think urdu originated from?

 

[DrPuff]

Bollywood is our weapon against Pakistan

 

[Hamzay]

Bollywood is our weapon against Pakistan

It's a weapon against those who want independence from India.

 

[KRAIT]

It proves my point that Bollywood is sedation, opium for the masses

And it is being used as an Ideology to unite India.

And breaking Pakistan. You dance n our songs.