Blast reported in a mosque in Peshawar - 56 dead and 196 injured. This is developing story.

[Enigma SIG]

They are handling the border as a civilian matter. It has always required a military solution. It needs army presence and and troops need to dig in until there is 1 year of zero incidents then laddering out slowly. That should be be the benchmark.

They're unwilling to upset their Taliban cousins right now, so no military solutions.

 

[JohnWick]

Good question.

Abandoning our practices and culture would be seen as a victory for terrorists. There's a huge effort ongoing in Pakistan to limit Shia processions on the streets and the threat of terror is their main talking point. We simply can't give up because it will mean that the terrorists and our enemies succeeded, or in other words we lost or they were able to scare us. That's unacceptable for us.

The religious aspect, from our point of view, is that our processions are remembrance of the atrocities that were perpetrated against the Prophet's family, certainly they expose certain characters who were involved in these, directly or indirectly. They either don't like us to remember history or deny our interpretation of it as it challenges their beliefs and interpretations, so some of them resort to violence to stop us.

Another important factor is the remembrance of the massacre that was perpetrated against Iman Hussain(AS) and his family is at the heart of Shia culture. If we get scared of martyrdom then what's the point, our whole existence would become hypocritical.

I could go on but if you are interested, then google about Shia history.

Thanks for your interest, it's a very good question that some people don't appreciate the answer of.

Dear no one is questioning about Shia believes they were saying that security is important
It was an unfortunate incident but don't describe it as shias are being targeted in APS 100s of children were killed not cz they were shias but as a Pakistani....So please don't perpetually say that Karbala happened there and You were fighting the yazidi forces.... It was just an other accident of terror like 9/11....So kindly not hallucinate 7 crore Shias are living in this country freely and having a prosperous life so don't be retard and put petrol on sectorism....Have some sense !
Don't act like ignorant and act like as our foes wanted you to be !

 

[farok84]

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[jk007]

Good question.

Abandoning our practices and culture would be seen as a victory for terrorists. There's a huge effort ongoing in Pakistan to limit Shia processions on the streets and the threat of terror is their main talking point. We simply can't give up because it will mean that the terrorists and our enemies succeeded, or in other words we lost or they were able to scare us. That's unacceptable for us.

The religious aspect, from our point of view, is that our processions are remembrance of the atrocities that were perpetrated against the Prophet's family, certainly they expose certain characters who were involved in these, directly or indirectly. They either don't like us to remember history or deny our interpretation of it as it challenges their beliefs and interpretations, so some of them resort to violence to stop us.

Another important factor is the remembrance of the massacre that was perpetrated against Iman Hussain(AS) and his family is at the heart of Shia culture. If we get scared of martyrdom then what's the point, our whole existence would become hypocritical.

I could go on but if you are interested, then google about Shia history.

Thanks for your interest, it's a very good question that some people don't appreciate the answer of.

I did read few books about Islam. But I am yet to understand reasons behind "differences" between Shia & sunnies. Please note that I don't not have much context and hence difficult for me to understand:

a) In Indian hyderabad, I hired a cab, whose driver is a Sunnie. He was with me for a few days. He had very good words for Shias (he says they help each other, better educated, more productive etc etc). He did not have good words for his own community.
b) hazaras had a sizeable population + soldiers in Afghanistan. How come their leaders + well trained soldiers made peace with taliban? When they know that taliban will not look at them kindly?
c) if Shia are sizeable population in pak, then do they have any political parties championing their causes? Bhutto are Shia, correct?
d) maybe, Iran should have cooperated with USA in WOT. That would have done Iran + Afghanistan some good. Well - it is what it is.

 

[Enigma SIG]

If suicide bombing is that easy that you can pay anyone 1 million and he would blow up at any Shia mosque then why did ISKP had to bring a suicide bomber all the way from Kabul?

Disregarding the many suicide attacks that were perpetrated by "Pakistanis" just because this one happened to be Afghani?

At least bring up an educated rebuttal.

 

[jabbu1234]

They are handling the border as a civilian matter. It has always required a military solution. It needs army presence and and troops need to dig in until there is 1 year of zero incidents then laddering out slowly. That should be be the benchmark.

May situation came undercontrol and this never happens again

 

[Tomcats]

ISKP has claimed the attack

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499992123978186754

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499826362349232136

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499858271678648321

 

[Areesh]

Disregarding the many suicide attacks that were perpetrated by "Pakistanis" just because this one happened to be Afghani?

At least bring up an educated rebuttal.

And in most cases many of those Pakistani bombers killed people belonging to the majority sect

Just last year we had a madarsa bombed by same ISKP in Peshawar

But the way you have presented that every other Pakistan is ready to blow himself at a shia mosque if given the right price is pure nonsense

 

[ghazi52]

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[Fioril]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500134863361671168

A clear message is being sent to US. First IK visit to Russia in between war and now Russian FM paying condolences over Peshawar Attack.

 

[Enigma SIG]

But the way you have presented that every other Pakistan is ready to blow himself at a shia mosque if given the right price is pure nonsense

Learn to read between the lines will ya. Even here on PDF you have a sizeable majority who don't consider Shia's as muslims; and these are "educated" people.

Now think of what this means for majority of Pakistani's who aren't educated and take everything at face value. Remember that Sri Lankan man being lynched? That is the majority of Pakistan right there. Feed them anti-shia propaganda day in day out and you have a lot of people willing to lend there hand to cleanse the country of "kafirs"; for the right price of course.

 

[Areesh]

Learn to read between the lines will ya. Even here on PDF you have a sizeable majority who don't consider Shia's as muslims; and these are "educated" people.

Now think of what this means for majority of Pakistani's who aren't educated and take everything at face value. Remember that Sri Lankan man being lynched? That is the majority of Pakistan right there. Feed them anti-shia propaganda day in day out and you have a lot of people willing to lend there hand to cleanse the country of "kafirs"; for the right price of course.

People have sectarian differences. Some to extremes. But that doesn't mean that they would be strapping suicide belts to attack Shia mosques as you are saying. Nobody is blowing himself up anywhere for any so called right price. You just simply over exaggerated

 

[mudas777]

Lets not make this tragedy controversial, point fingers, show the respect to the innocent victims and go after the actual perpetrators. Shias in our country are as much as Pakistani's as rest of us and are part of our society and country.

Obviously ISK is much more ruthless and much more fragmented and operate differently then the TTP. ISK is common enemy of the Afghanistan and the Pakistan and at least both countries can agree on this then it does makes sense that both countries must target them together.
Its our intelligence failure and we need to learn lessons and improve our responses against any such attacks in the future. To begin with the policemen who were guarding the place need better protection themselves to save the others as they were taken out so easily and didn't stood the chance to respond. Proper border management, protection of the fence and the biometric passports must be the order of the day regardless how Afghans feel to reduce tragedies like this. Its a huge loss of life and must not go unanswered where ever these animals are hiding like we did with the APS tragedy. Enemy have selected the time and place very carefully as we thought things are getting better for our country.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Lets not make this tragedy controversial, point fingers, show the respect to the innocent victims and go after the actual perpetrators. Shias in our country are as much as Pakistani's as rest of us and are part of our society and country.

Obviously ISK is much more ruthless and much more fragmented and operate differently then the TTP. ISK is common enemy of the Afghanistan and the Pakistan and at least both countries can agree on this then it does makes sense that both countries must target them together.
Its our intelligence failure and we need to learn lessons and improve our responses against any such attacks in the future. To begin with the policemen who were guarding the place need better protection themselves to save the others as they were taken out so easily and didn't stood the chance to respond. Proper border management, protection of the fence and the biometric passports must be the order of the day regardless how Afghans feel to reduce tragedies like this. Its a huge loss of life and must not go unanswered where ever these animals are hiding like we did with the APS tragedy. Enemy have selected the time and place very carefully as we thought things are getting better for our country.

Kick the afghans out. Problem solved. Pakistanis are sadistically mad as we allow millions of people in to our country who hate us just as much as the indians do. Curse those who allow this to happen.

 

[khansaheeb]

So what is the response? It was an Afghan suicide bomber.

Are we going to see boots on ground in Afg and finally carve out this buffer?

We were supposed to have sealed the border, time to send more troops and agencies to make it water tight and unleash hell in Kashmir and Palestine.