Blackwater's Pakistan mission (and related news)

[Slides]

I have asked few questions on this issue in other thread about their passport!
What passport they carry when they come to Pakistan?
Is it official or ordinary civilian?
What type of visa is being issued to them by Pakistan? certainly not tourist!

If the above is true (and that's a pretty big if right now), do you really think they go through customs? They would fly in on US military planes.

 

[xebex]

I have asked few questions on this issue in other thread about their passport!
What passport they carry when they come to Pakistan?
Is it official or ordinary civilian?
What type of visa is being issued to them by Pakistan? certainly not tourist!

Last time when i checked, US is already in your backyard for a while now. how hard it could be to drop them from the heavens and mix with locals?

 

[Spring Onion]

When Ahmed Qureshi and Zaid Hamid spoke about presence of Blackwater in Pakistan, the Neo-fascists termed the views as conspiracy theory. But now when the US orgs themselves acknowledge that I wonder what now

 

[Spring Onion]

I have asked few questions on this issue in other thread about their passport!
What passport they carry when they come to Pakistan?
Is it official or ordinary civilian?
What type of visa is being issued to them by Pakistan? certainly not tourist!

Certainly some work visa as the firm is private and CIA hires their services to avoid any probe at official level for the killings.

And besides i think those in our government must be knowing about them so visa i think is not an issue for the CIA hired blackwater.

 

[A1Kaid]

The Obama administration, State Dept, and CIA continue to outsource official uniform military objectives and missions to private security contractors/mercenaries, most infamously Black Water which is actually a trigger-happy Christian Crusader Force with contracts with the US State Dept, and a lot of deep pocket influence in the US Congress.


It's not surprising that the CIA is now allowing Black Water to operate Predator Drones, though with Black Water now operating them expect higher casualties as these barbarians are very trigger-happy and view themselves as a Christian Crusader Force with an objective to eliminate Islam.

See this thread below. In fact, the two threads should be merged and would compliment each other well.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/genera...blackwater-crusaders-msnbc-news-coverage.html

Most of these Black Water Crusaders are secretly stationed throughout the tribal areas, including Peshawar. Unfortunately, it is increasingly clear that the despicable and traitorous government of Pakistan has betrayed the Nation's will, by allowing the enemies of Islam and the State to enter the territory and/or be complicit to the operations of Black Water conducts on Pakistani soil.

Though officially and publicly the Pakistani Government denies cooperation and or allowance of US entities to operate within Pakistan. On the contrary, it is documented with empirical evidence that the active and true policy of the Administration of Pakistan is complicit with US/Black Water activity


If you are aware of or see Black Water activity in Pakistan, verify the target, engage it and kill it, ask questions later...

 

[A1Kaid]

Blackwater used 'child prostitutes in Iraq'


Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:14:12 GMT




Black Water Owner, Erik Prince.


Black Water Crusaders, Baghdad US "Green Zone".

The Blackwater compound in Baghdad is surrounded by a 25-foot wall of concrete topped by a chain-link fence and razor wire, and is guarded by veterans of the Colombian Army.







New disturbing charges have emerged against XE, the infamous private security firm formerly known as Blackwater Worldwide, whose operations came under spotlight after its 2007 carnage in Baghdad.

According to a report by MSNBC and based on alleged sworn declarations by two Blackwater employees in federal court, the firm used child prostitutes at its compound in Baghdad's fortified Green Zone.

The declarations added Iraqi minors got involve in sexual acts with Blackwater members in exchange for one dollar and Erik Prince, the firm's owner, "failed to stop the ongoing use of prostitutes, including child prostitutes, by his men."

Based on other statements, the firm was involved in another sex scandal; "Prince's North Carolina operations had an ongoing wife-swapping and sex ring, which was participated in by many of Mr. Prince's top executives."

The two employees also alleged that Prince "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," The Nation reported.

Prince also allegedly forced health professional to endorse the redeployment of those Blackwater members who had been mental problems, such as excessive drinking and drug abuse.

Other charges against the firm include arms smuggling, money laundering and tax evasion.

The criminal activities of the firm first came under scrutiny after a group of the firm's members who were tasked to guard US diplomats in Iraq opened fire on civilians in Baghdad on September 2007, killing 17 people.

According to federal contract data obtained by The Nation, the Obama administration has recently extended a contract with Blackwater for more than $20 million for "security services" in Iraq.

SB/MD

Source: Blackwater used 'child prostitutes in Iraq'

 

[A1Kaid]

Ex-employees claim Black Water pimped out young Iraqi girls


By David Edwards and Muriel Kane

Published: August 7, 2009



Since the revelation earlier this week of allegations by two former employees of security firm Blackwater that its owner was complicit in murder in order to cover up the deliberate killing of Iraqi civilians, explosive charges have continued to emerge.

Perhaps the most shocking of those charges — quoted by MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann on Thursday from the employees’ sworn declarations — is that Blackwater was guilty of using child prostitutes at its compound in Baghdad’s fortified Green Zone and that owner Erik Prince knew of this activity and did nothing to stop it.

The declarations describe Blackwater as “having young girls provide oral sex to Enterprise members in the ‘Blackwater Man Camp’ in exchange for one American dollar.” They add even though Prince frequently visited this camp, he “failed to stop the ongoing use of prostitutes, including child prostitutes, by his men.”

One of the statements also charges that “Prince’s North Carolina operations had an ongoing wife-swapping and sex ring, which was participated in by many of Mr. Prince’s top executives.”

According to the two former employees, Blackwater supervisors in Iraq sometimes sent men back to the United States for wanting to “kill ragheads,” excessive drinking, steroid use, or failure to follow weapon safety procedures, but “Mr. Prince and his executives would send them back” with a reprimand to the supervisor for costing the firm money. Blackwater even fired “those mental health professionals who were not willing to endorse deployments of unfit men.”

The former employees additionally state that Prince was engaged in illegal arms dealing, money laundering, and tax evasion, that he created “a web of companies in order to obscure wrong-doing, fraud, and other crimes,” and that Blackwater’s chief financial officer had “resigned … stating he was not willing to go to jail for Erik Prince.”

Prince has repeatedly insisted his company has done nothing wrong and Blackwater — now renamed Xe — continues to fulfill its contracts with the United States government.

Source: Raw Story Ex-employees claim Blackwater pimped out young Iraqi girls

 

[A1Kaid]

Black Water Religious Crusaders, Call Signs -Knights Templar, Child Prostitutes, "Ragheads", Christian Crusader Supremacist.

Russia Today News Coverage.

 

[A1Kaid]

The Obama administration, State Dept, and CIA continue to outsource official uniform military objectives and missions to private security contractors/mercenaries, most infamously Black Water which is actually a trigger-happy Christian Crusader Force with contracts with the US State Dept, and a lot of deep pocket influence in the US Congress.


It's not surprising that the CIA is now allowing Black Water to operate Predator Drones, though with Black Water now operating them expect higher casualties as these barbarians are very trigger-happy and view themselves as a Christian Crusader Force with an objective to eliminate Islam.

See this thread below. In fact, the two threads should be merged and would compliment each other well.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/genera...blackwater-crusaders-msnbc-news-coverage.html

Most of these Black Water Crusaders are secretly stationed throughout the tribal areas, including Peshawar. Unfortunately, it is increasingly clear that the despicable and traitorous government of Pakistan has betrayed the Nation's will, by allowing the enemies of Islam and the State to enter the territory and/or be complicit to the operations of Black Water conducts on Pakistani soil.

Though officially and publicly the Pakistani Government denies cooperation and or allowance of US entities to operate within Pakistan. On the contrary, it is documented with empirical evidence that the active and true policy of the Administration of Pakistan is complicit with US/Black Water activity


If you are aware of or see Black Water activity in Pakistan, verify the target, engage it and kill it, ask questions later...

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/32160-blackwater-arming-us-drones-cia-nyt.html

 

[LiberalPakistani]

I've spread this news and sent the Printing information in a page that will be given out in Malir Cantt area's and many places in Karachi in Jummah Namaz people were given these print outs about Black water but for now if we see any i agree with A1Kaid that if we seen any of their activity in Pakistan should be clear to engage and kill.

 

[Thomas]

I wouldn't put to much stock in what the N.Y. times prints. They are not known for their truthfulness. I know people that have been involved with security where the predators are based in Afghanistan. And Blackwater is not involved with them. Blackwater does have contracts though to provide aviation services, security, and training to the Afghan Government which the U.S. pays for.

Also Predators are not piloted by Blackwater. They are piloted remotely from a air force base in Nevada. By regular U.S. Air Force pilots.

 

[AchtungSpitfire]

I find it highly implausible that the Special Activities boys at the CIA would need go outside the farm for something as routine as UCAV ops.

Knowing the NYTimes I'm sure something as benign as grunts on the ground being former Blackwater will trigger such a sensationalist headline.

 

[Comet]

This looks bad. V.V. Bad

 

[fatman17]

Is Blackwater Too Big to Fail?

— By Daniel Schulman | Fri August 21, 2009

—Photo by Flickr user James Gordon.

Erik Prince's security enterprise has a division for pretty much everything. Need planes or choppers? See Aviation Worldwide or Presidential Airways. A compliment of Colombian mercs? Greystone at your service. For-hire spooks? Total Intelligence Solutions—emphasis on total—is standing by. And for the super-double-secret covert work—the kind that the CIA keeps even Congress in the dark about—Prince has a division for that too. According to the New York Times, it's called Blackwater Select.

Building on its scoop that the company played a role in the CIA's abandoned program to assassinate Al Qaeda operatives, the Times reports today that this secret division also plays a part in the agency's predator drone program.

The division’s operations are carried out at hidden bases in Pakistan and Afghanistan, where the company’s contractors assemble and load Hellfire missiles and 500-pound laser-guided bombs on remotely piloted Predator aircraft, work previously performed by employees of the Central Intelligence Agency. They also provide security at the covert bases, the officials said.

The role of the company in the Predator program highlights the degree to which the C.I.A. now depends on outside contractors to perform some of the agency’s most important assignments. And it illustrates the resilience of Blackwater, now known as Xe (pronounced Zee) Services, though most people in and outside the company still refer to it as Blackwater. It has grown through government work, even as it attracted criticism and allegations of brutality in Iraq.

You'd think that after repeated controversies Prince's government clients would tire of the enduring PR nightmare and cut their ties. But they won't, because they can't. By many, the company is viewed as indispensable. This didn't happen by accident. It's long been Prince's business model. "Make yourself indispensable to the client, and you'll always have work," Prince is quoted as saying in Suzanne Simons' new book, Master of War.

Certainly the company didn't rise up from its modest origins to become a contracting behemoth without a lot of help. That is, if the company is indispensable, that's largely because we made it that way. The more jobs the government contracts out to Blackwater (and other industry players), the more the government loses the internal capacity to do them itself. Think of it this way: Blackwater operators were originally trained by the government to carry out the drone work. If the government decides it wants to assume this role again one day, will its personnel need to be trained by Blackwater?

It's not just about outsourcing—it's the kind of jobs that are being outsourced to Blackwater that raise questions. Writing in Time, ex-CIA officer Robert Baer points out:

It's one thing, albeit often misguided, for the agency to outsource certain tasks to contractors. It's quite another to involve a company like Blackwater in even the planning and training of targeted killings, akin to the CIA going to the mafia to draw up a plan to kill Castro.

I suspect that if the agreements are ever really looked into — rather than a formal contract, the CIA reportedly brokered individual deals with top company brass — we will find out that Blackwater's assassination work was more about bilking the U.S. taxpayer than it was killing Osama bin Laden or other al-Qaeda leaders. More than a few senior CIA officers retired from the CIA and went to work at Blackwater, the controversial private security shop now known as Xe Services. Not only did those officers presumably take their CIA Rolodexes with them out the door, but many probably didn't choose to leave until they had a lucrative new contract lined up. But more to the point, Blackwater stood no better chance of placing operatives in Pakistan's tribal areas, where the al-Qaeda leadership was hiding in 2004, than the CIA or the U.S. military did.


Still, whether by virtue of Blackwater's revolving door relationship with the CIA, or the agency's own manpower shortages, the company has now been entrusted with some of the intelligence community's most senstive work. Thanks to the Times, we now know more details about Blackwater's CIA work, but this likely represents a fraction of the covert contracts (or handshake agreements, as the case may be) the company and its affiliates have undertaken for the agency. Add in the many non-secret jobs these companies perform for the government, and it becomes hard to imagine the Obama administration extricating itself from its inherited relationship with Prince's companies even if it wanted to. In some ways, Prince's operation is the military world version of AIG—too big to fail.

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[Spring Onion]

I wouldn't put to much stock in what the N.Y. times prints. They are not known for their truthfulness.

Thankks for acknowledging the truth about NY Times.

I know people that have been involved with security where the predators are based in Afghanistan. And Blackwater is not involved with them. Blackwater does have contracts though to provide aviation services, security, and training to the Afghan Government which the U.S. pays for.

Also Predators are not piloted by Blackwater. They are piloted remotely from a air force base in Nevada. By regular U.S. Air Force pilots.

The report clearly says that Blackwater with new name is not operating the the predators but they are on ground to provide information and targets besides if needed they might assassinate the targetd object.