big worry for pakistan??Tejas fighter jets put on the Pak border for vigil

[Ultima Thule]

Tejas MK1A will be more than a match for vintage pakistani F-16s,

so you have also vintage jet like Su-30MKI, mig-29, mirage-2000h, design in late 70's and 80's @Tumba

Tejas will have more sophisticated AESA radar

In the future @Tumba

Less RCS than a F-16, its most probable Tejas Mk1A will see the Vintage F-16 first and locks on.

F-16 world beating jet where your Tej@$$ is totally and un proven @Tumba

Anyway Tejas will never work alone the big brothers and daddy’s of F-16 like Su-30 MKI, Rafale, Mig-29 Upg/K, Mirage-M2K dash 9 will not even leave a single paf fighter alive to be taken care by Tejas

All have big RCS you know what is the meaning of RCS kid easy pray for SD-10-a and AMRAAM kid, talk RAFAlE when its will induct to IAF @Tumba
and there are no Mirage-2009 but Mirage-2000H which is uprgraded a standard of Mirage-2005mk2 @Tumba

 

[Tumba]

Your MKI does not have any spectacular avionics only if you knew. These are pretty basic avionics to begin with. No country sells its BEST tech to the export market, get it in your head. That is why they are called export variants. The best bet is to make your own if you can. MKI has everything export oriented and has been around for a long time. The EW, avionics, RWR are all well known and are not state of the art. I guess you are too dumb or blinded by patriotism.

As for your Tejas shit, man thats just too hilarious. Tejas cannot even manage to track targets on its own without big brothers. In fact, it has no range nor combat radius so by the time it even sees a target, it will have to return to the base to refuel. That would be some sight.

By the way, the block 52 has the BEST EW suite in the entire region. India has no answer to it. Your guys will be blinded by it. The ALQ-211 will zip through your radars like a hot knife at full power.

haha F-16 blk 52 has no tech advante over Mkis infact Israelis replaced the avionics suits from the blk 52 and put the same ew suit which MKI-II has which is now replaced with more advanced suits in latest MKI-III like I said MkIs will eat blk 52s for breakfast

 

[Dazzler]

India is hosting F-16 Blk 52s earlier than even Paf received them, Indian air force knows everything about this fighter, infacts Sukhois and F-16 blk 52s share same base in India.
Even A Mig-21 Bison can get a kill on F-22 raptor but that depends on scenario thr is no way F-22 will lets a Mig-21 or F-16 near itself and in case of India pakistan, pakistan has neither advantage in quality nor quantity nor has any strategic depth its a closed game for F-16s thr is no scenario that can occur which paf will be able to exploit, it will be game over in few days.

Goodness, so just because you hosted it, doesnt mean you knew everything about it. Got it?

Kid, pakistan operates some of the best equipment, AWACS and fighters in the region. Not to mention they operate twice as many AWACS as India. This means we have way more coverage of the skies compared to the IAF. Our C4I is also way more advanced than your so called AFNET, which is a patch work to begin with. But, why am i even arguing to you anyway?

haha F-16 blk 52 has no tech advante over Mkis infact Israelis replaced the avionics suits from the blk 52 and put the same ew suit which MKI-II has which is now replaced with more advanced suits in latest MKI-III like I said MkIs will eat blk 52s for breakfast

no they didnt, they still operate the same avionics as the Americans refused. They dont have any super duper avionics though good ones. The F-16 has some of the best avionics in any fighter even to this day.

However, the IAF has no answer to the ALQ-211 EW suite to this day. Thats a big worry for the IAF.

 

[Tumba]

Goodness, so just because you hosted it, doesnt mean you knew everything about it. Got it?

Kid, pakistan operates some of the best equipment, AWACS and fighters in the region. Not to mention they operate twice as many AWACS as India. This means we have way more coverage of the skies compared to the IAF. Our C4I is also way more advanced than your so called AFNET, which is a patch work to begin with. But, why am i even arguing to you anyway?

thr r plenty of joint exercises with singapore falcons for more than a decade, IAf surely knows in and out of blk 52s which definitely will be more advanced than pag ones also Indian phalcon awacs are much more powerful military monsters than watever pakistan have. pakistan has zero advantage over India geography limits pakistan every single pakistani base is in stand off weapon range of India fighters and missile batteries in first few days of battle most of pakistani force multipliers will probably try to run to friendly countries or put to sleep for good.
India is getting S-400s which I dont even want to bring to picture as Su-30 MKI-III alone will eat up whole paf and airbases of pakistan.

 

[Dazzler]

thr r plenty of joint exercises with singapore falcons for more than a decade, IAf surely knows in and out of blk 52s which definitely will be more advanced than pag ones also Indian phalcon awacs are much more powerful military monsters than watever pakistan have. pakistan has zero advantage over India geography limits pakistan every single pakistani base is in stand off weapon range of India fighters and missile batteries in first few days of battle most of pakistani force multipliers will probably try to run to friendly countries or put to sleep for good.
India is getting S-400s which I dont even want to bring to picture as Su-30 MKI-III alone will eat up whole paf and airbases of pakistan.

No, it does not. The only way to know the in and out of the f-16 is to operate it yourself and you dont have them so not possible to know them inside out.

So now you are trying to drift from the topic kid. Come back, i am having fun. As for your SAM batteries, we have the AGM 88, LD-10 and MAR-1s for that. They will have a field day hunting the S-400s all day. Not a problem.

 

[Asimzranger]

 

[Imran Khan]

i am so worry since i read the news . if these tejas will start falling on us like MIG-21s flying coffins what we will do ? can paf protect us from falling a tejas on us like rock from sky ?

 

[Tumba]

Goodness, so just because you hosted it, doesnt mean you knew everything about it. Got it?

Kid, pakistan operates some of the best equipment, AWACS and fighters in the region. Not to mention they operate twice as many AWACS as India. This means we have way more coverage of the skies compared to the IAF. Our C4I is also way more advanced than your so called AFNET, which is a patch work to begin with. But, why am i even arguing to you anyway?



no they didnt, they still operate the same avionics as the Americans refused. They dont have any super duper avionics though good ones. The F-16 has some of the best avionics in any fighter even to this day.

However, the IAF has no answer to the ALQ-211 EW suite to this day. Thats a big worry for the IAF.

lol
SU-30 MKI has a comprehensive EW suite that includes OLS-30 laser-optical IRST with day-and-night FLIR capability which enables engagement of the target even when partly obscured by clouds or countermeasures; the Tarang RWR developed by DRDO and the Elta EL/M-8222 self-protection jammer developed by Israel Aircraft Industries with an ESM receiver integrated into the pod. Tarang is more advanced than F-16 sufa upgrade as it replaced the same package as israeli one. Tarang has input from french, Israelis with India’s own expertise pakistan can only dream of this sophisticated tech the same is not even present with chinese Su-30 mkis are monsters F-16s doesnt stand a chance in Bvr or wvr , 3d tvc will bring huge advantage in dogfight also

No, it does not. The only way to know the in and out of the f-16 is to operate it yourself and you dont have them so not possible to know them inside out.

So now you are trying to drift from the topic kid. Come back, i am having fun. As for your SAM batteries, we have the AGM 88, LD-10 and MAR-1s for that. They will have a field day hunting the S-400s all day. Not a problem.

haha got to give u on this s-400 which chinese are even buying, that means watever tech u get from chinese will not be able to counter s-400 they r on different level, and Indian s-400 will get integrated with existing network of Indian Israeli and French systems which give paf zero chances in its own border areas also against any Iaf assault. These systems will cover 100-150 km inside pakistani airspace. Its game over for paf. S-400 >>> anything paf has

 

[Dazzler]

lol
SU-30 MKI has a comprehensive EW suite that includes OLS-30 laser-optical IRST with day-and-night FLIR capability which enables engagement of the target even when partly obscured by clouds or countermeasures; the Tarang RWR developed by DRDO and the Elta EL/M-8222 self-protection jammer developed by Israel Aircraft Industries with an ESM receiver integrated into the pod. Tarang is more advanced than F-16 sufa upgrade as it replaced the same package as israeli one. Tarang has input from french, Israelis with India’s own expertise pakistan can only dream of this sophisticated tech the same is not even present with chinese Su-30 mkis are monsters F-16s doesnt stand a chance in Bvr or wvr , 3d tvc will bring huge advantage in dogfight also



haha got to give u on this s-400 which chinese are even buying, that means watever tech u get from chinese will not be able to counter s-400 they r on different level, and Indian s-400 will get integrated with existing network of Indian Israeli and French systems which give paf zero chances in its own border areas also against any Iaf assault. These systems will cover 100-150 km inside pakistani airspace. Its game over for paf. S-400 >>> anything paf has

OLS 30 is a freaking IRST Sensor, nothing superior about it. No IRST can compliment, replace the features of a modern radar. As for your S400, you will need to install them inside your border, at least 150 kms to provide them some form of security from our SAM killers, still they dont stand a chance against terrain hugging wild weasel hunters.

So, there is no real benefit in buying those S400s. Better spend $5 billion on buying some more AWACS to give your IAF some form of vigilance over the enemy territory.

 

[Tumba]

OLS 30 is a freaking IRST Sensor, nothing superior about it. No IRST can compliment, replace the features of a modern radar. As for your S400, you will need to install them inside your border, at least 150 kms to provide them some form of security from our SAM killers, still they dont stand a chance against terrain hugging wild weasel hunters.

So, there is no real benefit in buying those S400s. Better spend $5 billion on buying some more AWACS to give your IAF some form of vigilance over the enemy territory.

seriously no better benefit of buying S-400s tell that to chinese and turks also haha and ols is the only way 4th gen. fighters have to counter 5th genration it has purpose lol.
You are nuts buddy I put facts on ground and u have just rhetoric.

S-400s r joke lol even your fellow pakistani members will be laughing on this

 

[MimophantSlayer]

That's a stupid question to begin with. SU-30 is strictly a Russian product, no matter how many parts you make, it still remains a Russian product that you cannot sell to anyone without their permission. Heck, they themselves are selling it to the world. It is NOT a joint project between India and Russia. Do some reading at least before asking silly questions.

Strawman argument.
No one is saying that we can sell MKIs on our own.

The crux of the matter is India has more Indian subsystems in a non-Indian aircraft while pakistanis have next to nil on a supposedly "joint" fighter -17 that you lot brandish as if made wholly in pakistan.

As for jf-17, Pakistan is a joint partner and owns 58% of the project and reserves the right to take it to 100% if required.

Let's not miss the details, the devil as they say is in the details.
The PAC website says.
"Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) holds the exclusive rights of 58% of JF-17 airframe co-production work."

All have big RCS you know what is the meaning of RCS kid easy pray for SD-10-a and AMRAAM kid,

And big radars and can fly higher effectively making it easier for the R-77s to shoot below at PAF fighters.

 

[Maxpane]

interesting am enjoying it

 

[Ultima Thule]

like I told every single pakistani memebr post a list what parts pac manufacturing for jf-17 like this below:

none came forward here is the list for use
Lca components, only single memeber without a link said some part of airframe is being produced whose total value is not 15% of total values for fighter plane.

here is the list for u provide the same and prove your fellow pakistani member also that
just sub conponent of jf-17 is not produced by pac.

Indian Components:

1. Airframe and composites
2. Landing gear
3. Electronic warfare suite
4. Displays
5. Flight control system (Fly by wire system)
6. crash resistant self sealing fuel tanks.
7. valves, wires and plumbing.

Joint development or custom imported components: These are components that are developed by sub-contracting to overseas development but are specific to LCA.

1. Radar : This is in joint development with Elta but a custom Radar for LCA as per Indian requirements
2. Targeting pods
3. LRUs : These are the brains of the aircraft and are quasi Indian. They use imported silicon Chips (we dont have semicondur capability). However the actual circuit board, system design, standards for interface and the software are 100% Indian.
4. Missiles: Some are licence produced and others are fully Indian. Its a mix.

Fully imported:

1. Radar covering cone i.e the front cone section of the aircraft which is a quartz based structure imported from UK.
2. Engine from USA
3. Ejection seats
4. silicon semiconductor ICs

That puts it at about 60% by value.

why sh!tting your pants again and again now prove us that JF-17 less than 15% made by pac you twit we maintain F-16, mirages, F-7, and PG since 1980 90, and 2000 specially F-16 in decade in 90's without any US help and your out of this universe 10000000 gen cowpis, vedic junk Tej@$$ is less 40% indian made you d1ckhead @Tumba

 

[oOo]

OLS 30 is a freaking IRST Sensor, nothing superior about it. No IRST can compliment, replace the features of a modern radar. As for your S400, you will need to install them inside your border, at least 150 kms to provide them some form of security from our SAM killers, still they dont stand a chance against terrain hugging wild weasel hunters.

So, there is no real benefit in buying those S400s. Better spend $5 billion on buying some more AWACS to give your IAF some form of vigilance over the enemy territory.

Hey professional troll,

You are tiny, with tiny budget. Be that, don't claim more than you can chew.

I can understand, being you, you need some cushion like some XYZ will kill those s400 to make you sleep, but that will remain a wishful thinking.

 

[Dazzler]

Strawman argument.
No one is saying that we can sell MKIs on our own.

The crux of the matter is India has more Indian subsystems in a non-Indian aircraft while pakistanis have next to nil on a supposedly "joint" fighter -17 that you lot brandish as if made wholly in pakistan.



Let's not miss the details, the devil as they say is in the details.
The PAC website says.
"Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) holds the exclusive rights of 58% of JF-17 airframe co-production work."



And big radars and can fly higher effectively making it easier for the R-77s to shoot below at PAF fighters.

Your argument is flawed to begin with, and the last part literally summed it horrendously.

You are worth the time.