‘Bible Scholar’ Makes Explosive Allegation About Jesus

[AUz]

when u says christianity is ajoke u are automatically saying islam is a joke,

No, retard.

Doctrines of Christianity and Islam aren't related to the level where if one becomes a joke, then other will automatically become a joke.

Study some books before you open your mouth...

 

[Iggy]

Think we should start from Abraham or better yet Adam

You mean free **** every day.. No thanks!!
@AUz I think you should read it first, he is saying that Jesus was a creation of Romans.. No such man exists.. It mean, there was no prophet nor any son of god.. All those defending your religion went to gutters mate..

 

[shuntmaster]

If this is true, it means the koran is also false...

 

[IamBengali]

Jesus (pbuh) was a great prophet of Allah. Muhammad (pbuh) said he and Jesus are brothers but our mothers are different but our religion is one. Muhammad (pbuh) had very high respect for Jesus. He is our Masih and prophet.

 

[Anubis]

If Jesus was a covert operator for the Romans...then why did the Romans go after him??They crucified him when he did not even gather many followers.That does not make any sense.If he was sent to break the Jews why kill him before he even starts.

 

[Coltsfan]

No, retard.

Doctrines of Christianity and Islam aren't related to the level where if one becomes a joke, then other will automatically become a joke.

Study some books before you open your mouth...

You call another poster a "retard" and tell him to "study some books" after you make the following statement

Christianity is a joke..no wonder nobody follows it anymore in the West...Even I am more 'christian' than majority of westerners who are recorded as 'christians' in statistics

Go figure who is a retard here

"Nobody follows Christianity in the West"

PS: Your Pakistani flag makes the mods turn a blind to that comment otherwise your *** would be banned for referring to another religion as a "joke", make sure to thank the mods

 

[IamBengali]

I think Jesus has a very high status in Islam. More than Christianity. His name is mentioned in Quran more than 20 times. His mother Maryam is also mentioned in Quran more than all books in the Christian Bible. I think Jesus had very high influence in pre Islamic time.

There are historians who say Chiristianity started as a sect of Judaiam and Islam started as a sect of Christianity which accepts Jesus as God's messenger but reject his divinity.

Anyway, I have a question. Do Christians believe Gospel is revealed by God or it is Jesus' own writtings?

We Muslim believe Quran is revealed by God but compiled later by Ali or Abu Bakr. There were several versions of Quran with slightly different meanings during Khilafat. Usman ordered his people to burn multiple versions and just reserved only one version to avoid misunderstanding of the messages of Quran. That one version is still the same and will remain same till the last day.

 

[KingMamba]

Makes no sense because Jesus' early disciples were from the Jews and only after his supposed Crucifixion did Romans start converting to Christianity and only nearly 400 years later Christianity became the state religion, so why would the Romans create a religion to control people only to wait 380 years after the fact to make said religion the state religion.

If Jesus was a covert operator for the Romans...then why did the Romans go after him??They crucified him when he did not even gather many followers.That does not make any sense.If he was sent to break the Jews why kill him before he even starts.

No the theory supposedly is he never existed and the Romans created him to create another religion to combat Judaism but then they waited 380 years before said plan got off the ground.

 

[Anubis]

Makes no sense because Jesus' early disciples were from the Jews and only after his supposed Crucifixion did Romans start converting to Christianity and only nearly 400 years later Christianity became the state religion, so why would the Romans create a religion to control people only to wait 380 years after the fact to make said religion the state religion.



No the theory supposedly is he never existed and the Romans created him to create another religion to combat Judaism but then they waited 380 years before said plan got off the ground.

He definitely existed.Romans at that time never ever used this technique on any other group.And the conflict between Romans and Jews were not a religious one.It was a territorial conflict between Israelites and Romans.The theory is bogus!

 

[KingMamba]

He definitely existed.Romans at that time never ever used this technique on any other group.And the conflict between Romans and Jews were not a religious one.It was a territorial conflict between Israelites and Romans.The theory is bogus!

Yeah I know but lately all these scholars have been challenging Christian depiction of Jesus, it is the new thing I guess. First Reza Aslan now this dude.

 

[Panther 57]

On Oct. 19, self-professed Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill is planning to make public some very flammable allegations. At a day-long symposium called "Covert Messiah" in London, England, he's set to unveil purported evidence that Roman aristocrats manufactured Jesus Christ - a claim that, if substantiated, would devalue the core of the Christian faith.

The only problem? Most Biblical experts disagree with the scholar's pronouncements.

A press release announcing the purported new evidence claims that Atwill has discovered "ancient confessions" that purportedly prove that Romans invented Jesus Christ in the first century. He has long argued that the faith system was used as a political tool to control the masses -- something he says is still going on today.

"I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm, but this is important for our culture," he said of the alleged debunk - one that he believes will eventually be universally accepted.

Self Professed Bible Scholar Joseph Atwill Makes Explosive Allegation About Jesus That He Believes Could Rock the Christian Faith to Its Corecovert messiah
Photo Credit: Joseph Atwill

In the release, Atwill said that governments often create "false histories and false gods" and that this is often done in an effort to secure social order.

Rather than a theology, Atwill believes that Christianity was concocted as a government project that was used to control Roman citizens. During a time in which Jewish residents were waiting for their Messiah, he says they were a constant source of insurrection, leading the Romans to seek out an equalizing and tempering force.

"When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare," Atwill explains in the press release. "They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system."

Jesus did not bring any new religion, he was sent on Jews only to reiterate the message of Moses. He never claimed to have brought a new religion.

By coming up with this theory he is not only going to face resistance from Christians but from Muslims as well.

 

[Wasim Aasim]

dont fight for religion.every religion is good. respect every religion.learn good things from every religion.

Thanks
Wasim

 

[Pakistani E]

lol I'm sorry for diverting the topic but this sounds so much like how people say the british supported mirza ghulam ahmad sahib to weaken the aggressive muslims. So not buying this.

 

[KingMamba]

lol I'm sorry for diverting the topic but this sounds so much like how people say the british supported mirza ghulam ahmad sahib to weaken the aggressive muslims. So not buying this.

This is not the same, no one says your homie didn't exist whereas this dude is saying Jesus was not even a person.

 

[Sugarcane]

Jesus did not bring any new religion, he was sent on Jews only to reiterate the message of Moses. He never claimed to have brought a new religion.

By coming up with this theory he is not only going to face resistance from Christians but from Muslims as well.

Bro!! Let Christians defend it, we already have alot in our plate to resolve