Betrayed, Arabized

[Jango]

It is the common mistake that some people make, when we go to the Shrine - it is too pay our respects to the Holy Man - who is probably responsible for converting the whole area to Islam. We think because of his great works, and missionary zeal - he is near to God.

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The Indus Valley (Pakistan) has been separate for very large periods from the land mass of Bharat =

The exact point i was trying to explain to these Indians. India is fro Indus. Indus valle civilization. Bharat is a different terminology. Hindustan is the land of Hindus.

 

[Vinod2070]

The people who used the word "Hindustan" meant it for all the lands East of Indus. This word was in vogue long before partition or even the entry of Islam in the subcontinent.

 

[Rafi]

Drawing on primary sources, especially literature, this work endeavours to establish the separateness of Indus from India. Discarding accepted myths of Indian history, it presents a history of the political culture of the Indus region (now Pakistan) from ancient times to the modern age. It is aimed at historians and scholars as well as general readers interested in the history of the subcontinent.

The Indus Saga and the Making of Pakistan

Read this book guys, it has contribution of Professor Dani and other academic's who use scientific proof to establish the ancient roots of Pakistan.

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Journal of South Asian and Middle Eastern Studies (Summer 1997) "The Indus Saga and the Making of Pakistan:" Susan K Hausman Questions and rejects many of the widely-accepted myths of subcontinental history; highlights the dichotomy between the Indus region and India; and shows the almost unbroken continuity of a distinct social and political order.

 

[Subramanian]

yeah but hindus lived there also,in the indus valley right until 1947,thats the whole point.It was not a religious difference and lot of muslims lived in and around Delhi and Rajasthan who went to pakistan.

 

[Rafi]

yeah but hindus lived there also,in the indus valley right until 1947,thats the whole point.It was not a religious difference and lot of muslims lived in and around Delhi and Rajasthan who went to pakistan.

The Hindu's that live in Pakistan are our people, and our brothers and sisters - but they were not, and never been indian, it is the same as Nepal - they are not indian, but are Hindu.

 

[Vinod2070]

Hassan Nisar slaps Laal Topi Zaid Hamid - YouTube

A good video from a guy who speaks like it is.

Watch it full but especially from 2:10. Some Pakistani journalist talks to Arabs: "When we were ruling Spain"! He is immediately corrected by the Arabs that it was an Arab rule. You were Hindustani for hundreds of years.

Still some don't get it.

No one wants a union with Pakistan, least of all India. We are two very different countries and we want to remain that way.

The issue here is the negation and murder of history. It would be funny if it were not so sad.

 

[Rafi]

Hassan Nisar slaps Laal Topi Zaid Hamid - YouTube

A good video from a guy who speaks like it is.

Watch it full but especially from 2:10. Some Pakistani journalist talks to Arabs: "When we were ruling Spain"! He is immediately corrected by the Arabs that it was an Arab rule. You were Hindustani for hundreds of years.

Still some don't get it.

No one wants a union with Pakistan, least of all India. We are two very different countries and we want to remain that way.

The issue here is the negation and murder of history. It would be funny if it were not so sad.

We are Pakistani - you are indian - let us leave it at that

 

[MrProudIndian]

Muse's thinking is modern and more acceptable in today's world..but many Pakistanis are unlike him!

 

[Vinod2070]

We are Pakistani - you are indian - let us leave it at that

No issues with that at all.

This whole thread has turned into something else.

 

[Omar1984]

Loooooool! Oh dear! Another Pakistani who has mistaken himself for Arab/Afghan. lool

Identity crisis much?

If you were Pashtun or Baloch I can believe you are not Indian. But you're PUNJABI for crying out loud mate. I don't mean to break your fragile ego but here you go........

Punjabi, Sindhi and Chitrali are Indic races. Although most of the population in these 3 races follows Islam and is part of present day Pakistan but they're still Indic races and no one can change that. Plus I don't think you look that much different from people from Indian Punjab, J&K, Himachal Pradesh, Delhi, Haryana, Uttarakhand, UP, Bihar, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh.

What the hell is Indic? First you distort the name of the Indus River to make a name for your country and your people and then you distort the name of the Indus River to make a race for your people, who most are not even from the areas near the Indus River. Indic is not a race. Asian is a race.

And we Punjabis in Pakistan dont even call your Punjabis in India, "Indians", we call them Khalistanis or Khalsas. Punjabis make only 3% of your population while Punjabis make 50% of our population so Punjabis dont even represent the majority of you people. Most of you indians are from central/south india who we have nothing in common with and are no where near the Indus River.

You indians belong to the GANGDIC race after the gangus river. Thats where most of you indians are from.

 

[lem34]

What the hell is Indic? First you distort the name of the Indus River to make a name for your country and your people and then you distort the name of the Indus River to make a race for your people, who most are not even from the areas near the Indus River. Indic is not a race. Asian is a race.

And we Punjabis in Pakistan dont even call your Punjabis in India, "Indians", we call them Khalistanis or Khalsas. Punjabis make only 3% of your population while Punjabis make 50% of our population so Punjabis dont even represent the majority of you people. Most of you indians are from central/south india who we have nothing in common with and are no where near the Indus River.

You indians belong to the GANGDIC race after the gangus river. Thats where most of you indians are from.

So we should call indians Gindies? or gangdis?

 

[Al Bhatti]

For the arabic reading users:

http://www.pakarabic.com/t728.html

http://www.islamweb.net/media/index.php?page=article&lang=A&id=144034

 

[fd24]

So obvious this was going to become another Pakistan v India thread. could see it come like a train!!

 

[Jango]

Indic ain't even a word, but the Indian guy keeps insisting.

 

[lem34]

Indic ain't even a word, but the Indian guy keeps insisting.

So what should we call them? Gindies? or gangdis? any other suggestion?