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By Shantanu Guha Ray in Delhi


Having lighter skin is considered an asset in parts of India
It is being called "Snow White syndrome" in India, a market where sales of whitening creams are far outstripping those of Coca-Cola and tea.
India also has the world's second most lucrative marriage industry - the first being neighbouring China - that has grown to a whopping $40bn a year spent on weddings, dowries, jewellery etc.
And demand for fair-complexioned brides and grooms to grace these occasions is as high as ever
Fuelling this demand are the country's 75-odd reality TV shows where being fair, lovely and handsome means instant stardom.
As a result, the Indian whitening cream market is expanding at a rate of nearly 18% a year. The country's largest research agency, AC Nielsen, estimates that figure will rise to about 25% this year - and the market will be worth an estimated $432m, an all-time high.
With the Indian middle class expected to increase 10-fold to 583 million people by 2025, it looks as if things will only get better for the cream makers.
But there have been questions by medical experts about the effect of these creams on the skin.
Brand ambassador
The implicit assumption by many is this: the whiter the skin, the more attractive you are.

India's skin-lightening cream industry gets ever more lucrative
John Abraham, a top Indian actor and model, says: "Indian men want to look better."
And he should know. The market is booming like never before. Launched way back in 1978, Hindustan Unilever's Fair & Lovely is the leader in women's lightening skincare, while Calcutta's Emami group leads the male equivalent with its brand, Fair And Handsome.
The company calls this brand - launched in 2005 - the world's number one fairness cream.
It achieved sales of $13m in 2008-09 and has Shah Rukh Khan, another Bollywood superstar, as its brand ambassador.
And then there are female stars endorsing similar products. Katrina Kaif, naturally fair, sells Olay's Natural White while Deepika Padukone sells Neutrogena's Fine Fairness range.
Sonam Kapoor sells L'Oreal's White Perfect while Preity Zinta, once a top star, endorsed Fem's Herbal Bleach.

If you apply anything on the skin, there will obviously be side effects
Rues VK Sharma, All India Institute of Medical Sciences
And there are many brands on the shelves to choose from: lightening, brightening, clearing, whitening, anti-pigmentation, freshening, anti-dullness and even illuminating.
"India is on a fairness hook, everyone wants to look fair," says Mohan Goenka, director of the Calcutta-based Emami group, whose Fair and Handsome brand for men was the first of its kind in the market.
A recent study by Hindustan Unilever showed how men in southern states like Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka are fervent purchasers of whitening creams.
For example, Tamil Nadu has been recording - for the past year - the highest number of sales for Narayanan, a skin-whitening cream from the Unilever stable.
Another report in the daily Economic Times says sales of skin-whitening cosmetic products were also high in tribal-dominated states like Jharkhand and Chhattisgarh.
"The market in India is huge, really huge," says a Procter & Gamble spokesman.
Experts say that demand has boomed because of the tendency to discriminate against a person's skin colour, a practice that is still widespread across rural India.
Steroids
"But if your complexion is fair, you avoid that pinch. Everyone in India wants to be fairer. At times it is repulsive, worse than chalking of geishas' faces in Japan, but everyone wants to have a jar or tube of skin-whitening cream," says fashion designer Rohit Bal, who has dressed Bollywood actresses and visited the sets of reality shows.

Demand for fair complexioned brides and grooms is at a high
As a result, the products - priced between 50 cents and $150 a jar/tube - are in great demand countrywide.
No study has ever been done to discover what "fairness in four weeks" achieves.
Worse, there are several controversies attached to such products.
"If you apply anything on the skin, there will obviously be side effects," says Rues VK Sharma, head of the dermatology department at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences.
"Very few know that many of these creams contain steroids. Whatever doctors say will always be a drop in the ocean, as advertisements flooding the market have a far larger impact on the minds of people."
But companies say otherwise.
"We are not selling steroids and to date the company has not been involved in a single lawsuit where someone has blamed us for messing up their skin. Our products are lab-tested and we vouch for it," says Mohan Goenka of the Emami group.

BBC News - India's unbearable lightness of being
 
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The article posted is about Inida and please keep these lighter topics off of core Pakistani forums and at most in the member's club. If you have something specific to add do so, otherwise don't.

I've given this thread a do over, the previous one seemed to have veered off from the first few posts.
 
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Every opponent nation look down on the other in media war.

Pakistan is look down by Indian members on basis of economy , jobs , military might , Pakistan as International beggar , smaller size as nation and about terrorist state or fail state etc.

but two wrongs doesn't make one right.
 
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Windjammer,

As fateh_71 said.. there is nothing wrong with using bleach creams and trying to get fair.. as long as people don't look down upon other people... and make their life miserable in REAL LIFE. However, in India... being dark can have very serious consequences.. :eek:

www.outlookindia.com | Our True Colours

This is a very long article from reputable Indian Magazine.. outlookindia..

Humiliation for Yoyce Jones, a Black American fresh out of an Ivy League college, came bang in the middle of Delhi's booming satellite town Gurgaon. He was at a chemist's in one of its glittering malls to buy some face soap. The man at the counter handed him a fairness soap instead. Jones clarified what exactly he wanted but the man insisted on giving him that same product. That's what really raised Jones's hackles. "I thanked him for his fairness soap and told him that I was proud of my skin colour."

Ask any African what it is like for him or her to be in India and you might perhaps think twice before calling Australia racist. It is indeed a very dark underbelly that India reveals when it comes to its treatment of the dark foreigner. Africans being called "kalia" or "habshi" is mild stuff. Bilyaminu Ibrahim, a Nigerian student at an engineering institute in Greater Noida, will tell you what it feels like to be spat on. Abdulmalik Ali Abdulmalik, another Nigerian student, will recount how much it hurts when one's beaten with cricket bats and wickets over a simple game. Across the country, landlords slam doors when they see a prospective African tenant but drool for money when a white walks in. Foreigners' Registration Offices cancel the visas of Africans arbitrarily and make paperwork easier for Americans and Europeans. Why, even in the film Fashion, Priyanka Chopra thinks she has hit rock-bottom because she finds herself sleeping with an African!

Of course, the Indian prejudice against the "shyam varna" is as old as Hindu mythology itself.

"When Krishna literally means dark," says Mumbai-based mythology expert Devdutt Pattanaik, "why is he always portrayed in blue rather than in natural black?" Comics and TV serials routinely depict evil (the demons) as dark and good (the gods) as fair. "It just reinforces our prejudices," says Pattanaik.

The south Indian has long become accustomed to the northerner using the term 'Madrasi' as almost a pejorative for his darker skin tone. "There is a certain dominance of north Indian aesthetics," says Delhi-based sociologist Patricia Uberoi, "where feminine beauty values a fair skin contrasted with dark hair and combined with soft features and big eyes. This goes with the global aspect where Indians are being exposed to international television that celebrates East Asian beauty with fair skin and dark hair."

However, while the South may decry this attitude of the northerners, it is as guilty of placing a huge premium on fairness. Tamil cinema, in fact, is known for reinforcing the stigma against dark skin. Superhero Rajnikanth himself may be dark, but fair women all the way from Rajasthan are imported to star in Tamil films.

Indian advertising too for long has courted fairness. You will never find a dark woman or man selling you a cosmetic brand in the Indian media. Or for that matter anything. After all, who can look better than a John Abraham peddling Garnier's new fairness cream? And in case you were beginning to forget the importance of fairness, Vogue India reminded us of it blatantly with its inaugural cover in October 2007. It flashed pale Australian model Gemma Ward as its centrepiece with the relatively darker Indian beauties Bipasha Basu and Priyanka Chopra as her sidekicks.

Matrimonial ads, week after week, hammer this in unfailingly: dark is ugly, fair is lovely. The dark can sit on the marriage shelf, there is demand only for the fair or very fair. And it is not uncommon to find dark men marrying into poor families just so that they may have a fair bride

Sometimes this obsession with fair skin can be fatal. Like in the tragic 2008 incident, when a woman was driven to suicide after her husband constantly harassed her for being dark. The Madurai sessions court sentenced Farook Batcha, the husband, to rigorous imprisonment for two years. The judgement was later upheld by the Madras High Court and the Supreme Court following an appeal by Batcha that calling one's wife dark did not amount to torture.

Doctor V.K. Sharma, president of the Indian Association of Dermatologists, Venereologists and Leprologists (IADVL), points to a harmful turn that the obsession with fair skin has taken. Across urban and rural India, illiterate and unaware women aspiring to be fair are being sold Betnovate, a skin steroid cream, to lighten their skin. Meant for certain skin rashes and inflammations, a fairer shade of skin is only its "side-effect". But that hasn't stopped this prescription drug from becoming sold widely as a fairness cosmetic. Repeated use of the cream leads to thinning of the skin, loss of elasticity and bacterial infections, among other harmful effects. It is for this that the IADVL is discouraging the use of fairness creams.

What explains this Indian obsession with fair skin and disdain for the dark? Some argue that a fair skin indicates social superiority, but then even among, say, the fair-skinned Kashmiris, caste is a reality. Most point to a colonial hangover that ingrained in us the idea that the ruler is always white. Some like Bangalore-based sociologist G.K. Karanth say the reverence for white skin goes back even further. "Look at the ease with which the supremacy of Alexander over Porus was accepted," he says. But there is little doubt that the slave trade and colonialism instilled modern power equations into what was till then simply a matter of 'aesthetics'. "It then became a marker of people trying to be like the white (the one who dominated)," says sociologist Ashis Nandy. Like a tool to help climb up the social ladder. Adds D.K. Bhattacharya, a retired anthropology professor from Delhi University, "There are reports from Africa where indigenous people would smear their face with limestone during Christian ceremonies to resemble the white missionaries."

Prakash C. Jain, a professor at the Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi, who has studied the Indian diaspora, says there has also been an "undercurrent of racism" between people of Indian origin and Africans in Africa. Traditionally, most Indians limited social interaction with Africans and stayed in separate housing estates. Intermarriage was practically non-existent in South Africa, with just 57 instances from the pre-World War II era to the '60s, he points out.

For T.K. Oommen, emeritus professor of sociology at JNU, racism combines elements of "culturalism" and "ethnicism". So there is the broad, implicit and very prevalent idea that Africans are culturally and ethnically inferior to Indians. "Indians have always made such distinctions. Look at the Shiv Sena that targets non-Maharashtrians or the Lachit Sena that targeted non-Assamese," he says.
 
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More of the same,

SKIN-COLOR DISCRIMINATION IN INDIA FROM A BLACK AMERICAN'S EXPERIENCE

'India Is Racist, and Happy About It' by Diepiriye Kuku (Outlook India)

"The writer is a black American PhD student at the Delhi School of Economics."

"Racism is never a personal experience. Racism in India is systematic and independent of the presence of foreigners of any hue. This climate permits and promotes this lawlessness and disdain for dark skin. Most Indian pop icons have light-damn-near-white skin. Several stars even promote skin-bleaching creams that promise to improve one’s popularity and career success. Matrimonial ads boast of fair, v. fair and v. very fair skin alongside foreign visas and advanced university degrees. Moreover, each time I visit one of Delhi’s clubhouses, I notice that I am the darkest person not wearing a work uniform. It’s unfair and ugly."

SKIN-COLOR DISCRIMINATION IN INDIA FROM A BLACK AMERICAN'S EXPERIENCE - anti-caste
 
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Then these "Indians" blame Pakistanis for being racist.. when racism in India is still very rampant :angry::angry:
 
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Kavita Karan
Obsessions with Fair Skin: Color Discourses in Indian Advertising
Advertising & Society Review - Volume 9, Issue 2, 2008

Advertising Educational Foundation

Abstract:

In India, the idea of beauty is often associated with fairness. Fairness creams abound in the market, and advertisements glorify fair skin. An analysis of television advertisements of fairness products shows how they connect fairness with achieving other personal goals, such as marriage, success, empowerment, job opportunities, and confidence. Focus-group interviews with Indian women reveal that most agree that an obsession with fairness and its projected attributes continues to prevail despite an awareness that beauty is a more personal and complex concept. Many believe the connection between beauty and fair skin arises from age-old historical beliefs that are now perpetuated in advertisements for fairness creams. Though these women do not personally rate fairness as a predominant indicator of beauty, they are aware of the culturally determined advantages of being fair and have themselves made efforts to look fair.


Project MUSE - Advertising & Society Review - Obsessions with Fair Skin: Color Discourses in Indian Advertising
 
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"When Krishna literally means dark," says Mumbai-based mythology expert Devdutt Pattanaik, "why is he always portrayed in blue rather than in natural black?" Comics and TV serials routinely depict evil (the demons) as dark and good (the gods) as fair. "It just reinforces our prejudices," says Pattanaik.

Well yes,Lord Krishna was known to be of Dark complexion as It is mentioned in Mahabharata, That Lord Krishna was of dark complexion but was an epitome of beauty.

Lord Krishna is always portrayed blue because he is a Avatar of Vishnu & it is clearly mentioned in the Puranas, Vishnu got the divine colour of clouds....So all the avatars of Vishnu are generally portrayed in divine colour of clouds(blue)....
Lord Vishnu
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Lord Ram ,,7th avatar of Vishnu

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Lord Krishna ,, 8th avatar of Vishnu
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Lord Buddha ,,9th avatar of vishnu


Lord Vishnu & it avatars are always portrayed in the colour of divine sky ,blue
 
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Then these "Indians" blame Pakistanis for being racist.. when racism in India is still very rampant :angry::angry:

Just when you thought caste system was exclusive to India, this has to be the tops.Colour discrimination against Afro Caribbeans is like a blind leading a blind.
 
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Well yes,Lord Krishna was known to be of Dark complexion as It is mentioned in Mahabharata, That Lord Krishna was of dark complexion but was an epitome of beauty.

Lord Krishna is always portrayed blue because he is a Avatar of Vishnu & it is clearly mentioned in the Puranas, Vishnu got the divine colour of clouds....So all the avatars of Vishnu are generally portrayed in divine colour of clouds(blue)....

Seems i have missed 90 minutes, but where i live clouds tend to be white, however on an odd sunny day the sky appears to be blue.
 
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Well yes,Lord Krishna was known to be of Dark complexion as It is mentioned in Mahabharata, That Lord Krishna was of dark complexion but was an epitome of beauty.

Lord Krishna is always portrayed blue because he is a Avatar of Vishnu & it is clearly mentioned in the Puranas, Vishnu got the divine colour of clouds....So all the avatars of Vishnu are generally portrayed in divine colour of clouds(blue)....

the article is from your own indian magazine.. You have to email them so they can correct themselves.. :D:D
 
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Seems i have missed 90 minutes, but where i live clouds tend to be white, however on an odd sunny day the sky appears to be blue.

lol! You have great sense of humor... :lol: I loved your video of Indian condom Add... :rofl::rofl:
 
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What interests you guys so much about this topic, that you made a thread? What are you looking to prove?
 
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