Bangladesh to observe one-minute blackout on March 25

[Nilgiri]

British are far better at governing than useless South Asian politicians.

Yeah because we saw actual 3+ million deaths in famines (not once, or twice but multiple times in just one generation) under "useless south asian politicians" compared to British.

When you are just a captive market colony to be used and abused by master as seen fit...its quite silly when you later call them better in some warped hindsight than your own (as bad as they may be too....they are nowhere near as bad as British Raj).

Maybe you can tell those emaciated wretches in Bengal during the ww2 famine that the British "are far better" at "governing"....

 

[MultaniGuy]

British are far better at governing than useless South Asian politicians. I sure you ultra superior punjabi-pathans are happy with maha shareef family and playboy khan.

They are better than your grandmother Hasina and the other woman BNP politician in Bangladesh

 

[Nilgiri]

Did you even read my msg? Or her message too?
Read it again and then reply , specially the blue bold parts ( in that previous message) . Sakra just trolled me by quoting a misspelling 'nawaj' instead of 'Nawaz' and for this s/he just tagged all of you.
And I just trolled him/her back, as she also wrote that BD was under Pakistani rule for 30 years, but it was actually 24 years. And I also tagged all of you as Sakra did. And it was just copy & paste tagging from her comment
She tagged all of you to teach me how to pronounce, and I tagged all of you back to teach her calculation of this simple sum, Barabar ka hisab.

But your have started a total unrelated thing, and I am completely against such theory , and you know that better than many others in this forum .still you wrote such long post to show me the example.
Does that make sense?

Thank you.

@Nilgiri

Whats with the colour highlighting? It makes it harder to read your msg btw, please stop that.

Im just pointing out almost all ppl slip up at math now and then....but some math matters a LOT more in the end where it matters.

So what if someone said 30 years instead of 24....whoopdee friggin do, ballpark vicinity/figure of speech.... is no good waaaah....is it really a huge error that destroys any other argument they are making?

But what if someone highlights how devoid of math BD posters are when they cry Pakistan "STOLE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WAAAAH"....when BD kept 95% of its production/money at minimum through all those years....and simply cannot argue with numbers and evidence on it....but the same ole feelz only?

Which one matters a lot more on the ground today for this debate (or rather lack of one given one gets arrested in BD for even challenging the 3 million figure that BD ppl here ridicule now)?

1% extraction of GDP per year (for only some years, at most, not even clear how much compensated by return on institutions etc) causing an all out civil war?....that is all it took? Hair trigger folks you all are it seems....and now its even more crystal clear as to why given how you have turned out in attitude.

Don't worry, the karma will be drawn out and painful....hopefully you lot change for the better from the experience.

 

[Centaur]

So what if someone said 30 years instead of 24...

So what if I write nawaj sharif instead of Nawaz sharif ? Was it so big deal that someone need to tag total 10 peoples to beat me?
And for the rest if your post I am even not going to read that .
@Nilgiri

 

[Nilgiri]

So what if I write nawaj sharif instead of Nawaz sharif ? Is it so big deal that someone need to tag total 10 peoples to beat me?
@Nilgiri

Honestly dont know what the nawaj and nawaz thing is about....I think it is silly if someone made issue out of that given how ppl have called politicians from all countries all kinds of names on purpose or not.

But this troll forum 99% of the time so ppl will do whatever within the "bounds" now.

 

[Centaur]

Honestly dont know what the nawaj and nawaz thing is about....I think it is silly if someone made issue out of that given how ppl have called politicians from all countries all kinds of names on purpose or not.

But this troll forum 99% of the time so ppl will do whatever within the "bounds" now.

Simply I made a misspelling. And she made it an issue.

Read #146 no comment from Sakra.
And in return I tagged the same 10 peoples to teach her sum , as she tagged 10 peoples( including you) to teach me pronouncing. Simply countering a troll post ( from her) with another trolling ( by me) , is it too hard to understand?

@Nilgiri

 

[Hassan90]

The only apology that has to be given is from Bangladesh. In 2013 there were rigging in many parts of Pakistan. Does that made any party go crazy and launch it's terrorists as awami league did in 71? Bdsh is just attention seeking insignificant nation, whose going upwards or going downwards doesn't makes any difference to Pakistan. It is only Pakistanis who fall for umma chumma and muslim brothers, nobody outside Pakistan gives a fkk abt that.

I think we as pakistanis need to look at bigger picture. Do you really think these ppl are looking for apology? I really do not think they are . I think they want to Take advantage of our "weak" standing at international level nowadays to poke us, annoy us, humiliate us !and they do that by colluding with our enemies.

Unfortunely in muslim nations you do have alot of mir jafers who make their personal like /dislike Take precedence over their nations real interest. So as a good gesture i think we can Take steps that they might find desirable? I mean its not like what we did was right to be honest! Our generals and politician treated them like shit, we killed our own ppl! They were our ppl , we were one nation and because of our shortsightness we alienated them . Our ego, selfishness should never be bigger/higher then our will to stay United .

I am not saying do it today or when awami league is in power ..Our politician , pm, generals can interract directly with average bangali .it doesn't Take much to aknowledge our wrongdoings and move forward. At the end of the day there is bigger fish or fishes to fry . And This way those anti pakistani parties won, t have anything to get vote with.

 

[Nilgiri]

Simply I made a misspelling. And she made it an issue.

Read #146 no comment from Sakra.
And in return I tagged the same 10 peoples to teach her sum , as she tagged 10 peoples( including you) to teach me pronouncing. Simply countering a troll post ( from her) with another trolling ( by me) , is it too hard to understand?

@Nilgiri

You can have all the troll wars you guys want.... in the end its up to the posters who they prefer and think is more reasonable....or all are equally bad etc.

I am staying out of it unless I have something to contribute on a matter....and all I'm essentially saying is this kind of thread has been spawning all the time here and its the same circular discussions...maybe a few participants change but thats about it.....everyone makes mistakes (numbers, facts, logic, whatever), everyone trolls to different degrees, everyone blah blahs....everyone stays on their side of fence largely. Its nothing new.

I might do some info posts here and there (and again people are free to argue them or simply resort to ad hominem, its fine), but I am not interested in these kind of threads anymore...or taking sides as to who is bigger troll and who started it etc..... no one hands are clean on the matter.

 

[American Pakistani]

I think we as pakistanis need to look at bigger picture. Do you really think these ppl are looking for apology? I really do not think they are . I think they want to Take advantage of our "weak" standing at international level nowadays to poke us, annoy us, humiliate us !and they do that by colluding with our enemies.

Unfortunely in muslim nations you do have alot of mir jafers who make their personal like /dislike Take precedence over their nations real interest. So as a good gesture i think we can Take steps that they might find desirable? I mean its not like what we did was right to be honest! Our generals and politician treated them like shit, we killed our own ppl! They were our ppl , we were one nation and because of our shortsightness we alienated them . Our ego, selfishness should never be bigger/higher then our will to stay United .

I am not saying do it today or when awami league is in power ..Our politician , pm, generals can interract directly with average bangali .it doesn't Take much to aknowledge our wrongdoings and move forward. At the end of the day there is bigger fish or fishes to fry . And This way those anti pakistani parties won, t have anything to get vote with.

One would be a fool not to realize that there were mostly Bengali PM's who ruled Pakistan, excluding military rule of course. Furthermore, Bengali was made an official language at par with Urdu and English. Majority of their politicians were ungrateful bunch who sk indian b@ 11z.

It is similar to today's TTP or BLA.

 

[Sine Nomine]

8 months is too early too conquer any large tract of territory by a guerrilla force.Rebelled army men and EPR hold of many cities and town until May but had to abandoned due to lack of equipment and guerrilla trained man power.Then Mukti Bahini gone under ground for training and acquired arms.From June to September was period when Mukti Bahini organized. Intensity of attack by Mukti Bahini increased by the October. Pak force started to loose it's moral. With mounting guerrilla attacks and deteriorated economy Pakistan couldn't prolong that conflict. So that air strike on western Indian air field to convert it a Indo-Pak war with the aim of finish or be finished.It was gamble. Pak junta hoped for a Chinese and American military intervention on behalf of it and thought that if it can defeat India then insurgency in East pakistan will die out. So you can see Pakistan was desperate to end that quigmire even at the risk of loosing East Pak and surrender.So Mukti Bahini did not get any time to win a big chunk of territory.before that Pakistan surrendered to India and Mukti Bahini achieved it's objective in different way. End result is important, not the method of achieving it. I hope you will realize this simple truth.

Hahaha You are good at makeing things out of Air.

 

[Bilal9]

Ok, You know more than IMF.


Come back when you want to be serious.

What industry and services is he talking about??

He must be mistaking us for Bangladesh circa 1971.....

Few things you need to note:-

• The total Pakistan Army strength was about 50k men. Two under strength divisions with additional brigades. There was contingent of paramilitary police. So your talking about max 60k men. Rest were children, civilian staff and families.
  
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• Without India these divisions could if needed have been withdrawn to a strong point on the coast - for instance Chittagong so this 'strongpoint' could be supplied by sea. There is no way your half naked mukhtos could have broken this strongpoint. Meantime if needed from this strongpoint PA could have wreaked havoc and the adjacent region and maybe a few desperados might even have helped in improving the local gene pool.
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• You got saved from all this by your Mata India. You need to make puja and offerings to yoour Ganga brothers. May the Ganga and Bramaputra intercourse consummate in the Padma of the Ganga/Bangla twins.
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• Gen. Manekshaw who should be on your Taka notes as he is your father clearly has said that between IA and Mukhtos he enjoyed 1 to 50 advantage. Yes 1 to 50. Think about that.
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• Find me another place where 60k were successful in teaching 35 million people manners and that in their own swamp 1,200 miles away from home? US Army got busted just across you guys in Veitnam.

I think you are watching too many movies while smoking the funny pipe....

There were areas in Bangladesh where the Indian paratroopers didn't even dare drop, lest they raise the ire of local freedom fighters (Bagha Siddiqui's Tangail stronghold for example) .....

Manekshaw was such a coward that he didn't even dare set foot in Bangladesh until things dried up considerably. He knew he'd get bogged down - literally.....1 to 50, yeah right.....

Muktis fought a war of attrition for 95% of the time and brought PA to its knees (PA were confined to a few cantonments only), then Indian incompetent army walks in to claim the full credit. Indians didn't hand us our independence, we earned it.

Go read some history please.....

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Manekshaw was such a coward that he didn't even dare set foot in Bangladesh until things dried up considerably. He knew he'd get bogged down - literally.....1 to 50, yeah right.....

Muktis fought a war of attrition for 95% of the time and brought PA to its knees (PA were confined to a few cantonments only), then Indian incompetent army walks in to claim the full credit. Indians didn't hand us our independence, we earned it.

I don't know where they got this 1:50 bullshit. Pak troops(regular army+paramilitary) was about 1 lakh and Rajakar was 50k. While Indian force was 2.5 lakhs and Mukti Bahini was 2 lakhs. So it was 1:3 advantage for allied forces.

 

[Doctor Strange]

Leave it bro not in the mood to talk about it. Muslims of bengal played biggest role during creation of Pakistan. Which i think was a moronic decision.

I think it was moronic decision. Cutting relation with Indian Muslims, later becoming alien to Pakistani Muslims and then getting surrounded by Hindutva India. Getting totally isolated in the region, at least should have secured a corridor to China. No doubt Hindu Muslim people would survive together. And Bengal would lead India due to population superiority. But behind the creation of Pakistan some third parties were working. It was loss project for the British to leave united India. This area could be potential world island ruler in future, so keeping it divided is strategically important for some. And British created Pakistan as they wanted to have some foothold in the region. They feared soviet expansion in the region. Later we can see how Pakistan acted against Soviet expansion in the region. Creation of Pakistan didnt help Muslims of India and Bengal at all. The grand strategies are drawn somewhere else and normal people get slaughtered.

https://kjvids.co.uk/britains-role-in-the-creation-of-pakistan/
http://www.rediff.com/news/interview/britain-created-pakistan/20171102.htm

 

[suresh1773]

My question to you.

Is pakistan bothering you in 2018 or not?

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The chance of bothering are almost zero, both countries don't share a land border but still Bangladesh should demand a official apology from Pakistan

 

[Mage]

Regarding SARC, well why your PM refused to come to Pakistan when she has already visited pakistan before as well, just to follow Modi's line this time?

So, your country leaders are bothered that our PM didn't want to go to Pakistan? Good going.

SAARC is useless, I don't think our PM should attend those meetings again.