Bangladesh protests Pakistan Parliament resolutions

[Skies]

orginal post from Armstrong:

Sung excellently! Did not know about him.

The wiki says:

Life and career

[[[[ Alamgir was born in 1955, in East Pakistan (modern-day Bangladesh) into a Bengali family. His father Farmuzal Haq was a politician and part of the All India Muslim League. He studied in Mirzapur Cadet College, Tangail, Bangladesh. He briefly studied in B A F Shaheen College, Dhaka, Bangladesh. At the age of around 15, he moved to Karachi, West Pakistan in search of a future in the music industry. He had brought nothing else with him but a guitar and a passion to sing.

He settled in the PECHS area of Karachi and started singing in the evenings at a small cafe called “Cafe D Khan” on Tariq Road. He would not get paid for his gig, but did get a free meal each day. The cafe was famous for its intellectual gatherings and that is where he was spotted. His remuneration was a free meal at the hotel.Someone from the audience in the hotel liked his Guitar playing and told him about the programme at the TV station called Ferozan where Khushbakht Aliya was conducting a show for the youth. He gave his audition, Khushbakht liked his Guitar playing but she had already selected someone else. It just so happened that Sohail Rana, the music director was in the next studio and asked someone to call Alamgir to his car outside the TV station. He said, he liked his (Alamgir's) playing and asked if he would like to perform for children. This is how he entered in the formal world of Music.

He started singing on the Pakistani Television at the beginning of the 1970s when the people in Pakistan were not familiar with the modern Urdu music and when western music was generally considered as modern music in Pakistan. Shair Siddiqui's songs for the first pop musical program ‘SUNDAY KE SUNDAY’ series of Karachi Television in 1973/74 and introduced Alamgir with the song ‘ALBELA RAHI’. Albela Rahi. It proved a hit in 1973 among the youth of the 70’s. There was a time during the 70’s when the music loving boys and girls gathered regularly on the streets near the Karachi Jheel Park to get a glimpse of this pop singer as he used to travel along in his red sedan in evening. Alamgir’s second pop song Pyar hai zindagi ka gehna was also an Urdu translation of a foreign song. He soon became popular among the younger generation in the country. Alamgir is also known for his many renditions of Bengali music. The most notable Bengali song he is known to sing is Aamay Bhashaili Rey.[2]

Alamgir made a dash on the Pakistani music scene. He sang for the Pakistani television in the very beginning of his career but later as the time passed he started singing for the Pakistani music industry. He also performs abroad. Alamgir has polycystic kidney disease, undergoes dialysis three times per week and requires a kidney transplant. He currently resides in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. He is respected by the music lovers everywhere and still performs in live concerts in America. He returned to Pakistan and gave a live interview at a morning show on PTV channel named "Subh-e-Nau" on 19 March 2012. He was awarded pride of performance by the President of Pakistan due to his amazing performances in Pakistan throughout 80's and 90's. ]]]]

 

[AhsanAmin]

One very interesting book about Mr. Jinah.
‘Jinnah’s Orphans’ | Tarek Fatah

Tarek Fateh is a pseudo-liberal. Being liberal is his profession and not a cause. He promotes gay rights which is being a liberal but he opposes muslims choosing shariah banking, now I have a problem with this guy.

 

[hunter_hunted]

A Nuke a day keep the Awami Thugs away

 

[oFFbEAT]

look at these delusional Pakistanis, first they interfere in Bangladesh's internal matters and now mad when Bangladeshis are getting back at them.....

 

[afriend]

Why do you need to be hyper..??? No one is above criticism after all we are mere mortals..!!!

 

[HariPrasad]

Tarek Fateh is a pseudo-liberal. Being liberal is his profession and not a cause. He promotes gay rights which is being a liberal but he opposes muslims choosing shariah banking, now I have a problem with this guy.

See man, to believe or not believe is your choice. Gay right is giving right to something which is traditionally not acceptable where as sharia is snatching away all right and freedom, Both are extreme opposite. I request you not to compare both. If somebody does it than he is simply promoting liberalism and counters fundamentalism. I do not see any contradiction in that.

 

[IamBengali]

Now taking ur words bout Jinaah's vision point by point, Bangladesh exactly is that today.

1. He never wanted an Islamic Republic - Bangladesh isnt (Check)
2. He wanted an independent country where Muslims can practice their religion without fear - In Bangladesh its true (Check)
3. in that same country he wanted minorities to live with equal rights as of majority - True for Bangladesh (Check).

Hence, Bangladesh is either exactly or close to Jinnah's vision of Pakistan.

Maybe Bangladesh has become the country Jinnah wanted to create

The Bangladeshi youth demands banning the Jamaat-e-Islami from politics and boycotting of institutions supporting or affiliated with Jamaat-e-Islami PHOTO: REUTERS

When East Pakistan decided to break away from West Pakistan in 1971, one of the leading factors was the lack of importance accorded by West Pakistan’s bureaucracy and intelligentsia towards the other part of the country. It is not a surprise that the attitude did not change even after the separation of Pakistan’s two wings.

Pakistan’s textbooks are still silent over the atrocities committed by our armed forces and their proxies in 1971. Although West Pakistan may have forgotten, but the people who were subjected to the inhumane behaviour just because they dreamt of a better future, remember it all too vividly.

The demand to prosecute the criminals from 1971 has reverberated in Bangladesh over the years. It was only in 2009 that an International Crimes Tribunal (ICT) was formed set up in Bangladesh to investigate and prosecute suspects for the atrocities committed in 1971.

It should also be noted that Bangladesh’s original constitution of 1972 had declared it a secular state but the 8th amendment, put in effect by General Hussain Mohammad Ershad in 1988, declared Islam as the state religion of Bangladesh. Interestingly, Pakistan also had a notorious 8th amendment to the 1973 constitution, giving the power to dissolve assemblies to the president, put in place by none other than General Ziaul Haq.

In 2010, the Bangladesh High Court declared the constitutional amendment that had changed the country’s secular status to that of an Islamic state was done without lawful authority. This is still pending in the Supreme Court.

It is against this background that the current Shahbag movement should be seen. It started on February 5, 2013 – the day Bangladesh’s ICT awarded a life sentence to Abdul Quader Molla nicknamed ‘Butcher of Mirpur’ for his part in the mass murder and rape of Bengalis in 1971. He is a senior leader of Bangladesh’s Jamaat-e-Islami.

A few days earlier, Delwar Hossain Sayeedi, also a senior leader of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, was sentenced to death on February 28 for war crimes committed during the 1971 Liberation War.

Bangladeshi youth has taken it upon themselves to protest the leniency of the decision awarded to Molla and have taken to gathering at a Dhaka city compound in droves since the past few weeks.

The youth instead has demanded an “exemplary punishment”. They also demand to ban the Jamaat-e-Islami from politics and to boycott institutions supporting or affiliated with Jamaat-e-Islami.

This is a unique moment in modern history of the youth rising up against an Islamist religio-political party due to their agenda.

There is, however, little to no coverage of this historic uprising in Pakistan.

What disappoints me is the fact that there is no imminent chance of any similar movement in our country.

Just the other day, hundreds of homes belonging to Christians were burnt by a frenzied mob supposedly avenging blasphemy. Similar treatment was meted out to Christian localities in Gojra and Shantinagar, in 2009 and 1997 respectively.

In the last one and a half years, hundreds of Shias have been killed hither and thither in Pakistan, just because of their religious beliefs. To achieve anything even close to the Shahbag movement, religion and politics will need to be separated and kept apart.

There is widespread confusion about the term ‘secular’ in the educated class of Pakistan. Being secular, however, does not mean anti-religion per se, as is thought by our masses; it means freedom to choose your religion and not interfere in other people’s religion.

The first person to translate secularism as “la-deeniyat” or atheism was the founder of Jamaat-e-Islami in one of his books written in 1939.

Things have deteriorated so badly in our country that no political party is willing to stand up to religious fundamentalists as elections approach.

A trend has been observed in different countries that the emerging middle classes usually patronise the religious lot, giving them political leverage. This trend has been bucked in Bangladesh’s case and they have chosen a different path. However, what remains to be seen is whether or not the mobilised Bangladeshi youth in Shahbag Square are gathering in support of out-and-out secularism or just animosity towards the Jamaat mixed with nationalistic feelings.

Whatever the case may be, Bangladesh has decided that it won’t let the country be hijacked by politicians peddling their agendas in the name of religion.

Maybe Bangladesh has become the country Mr Jinnah wanted to create.

Maybe Bangladesh has become the country Jinnah wanted to create – The Express Tribune Blog

 

[AhsanAmin]

See man to believe or not believe is your choice. Gay right is giving right to something which is traditionally not acceptable where as sharia is snatching away all right and freedom, Both are extreme opposite. I request you not to compare both. If somebody does it than he is simply promoting liberalism and counters fundamentalism. I do not see any contradiction in that.

To make things clear, I am not talking about imposing Sharia anywhere on anyone. I am talking about opposition to Muslim individuals choosing Sharia banking for themselves.
If Muslims living among you have no problems with gay rights and you start asking them to not choose sharia banking for themselves, does not seem right to me. Is being liberal being anti-Muslim?
Anybody's faith and choice of lifestyle is their personal problem.

 

[Leader]

Maybe Bangladesh has become the country Jinnah wanted to create

The Bangladeshi youth demands banning the Jamaat-e-Islami from politics and boycotting of institutions supporting or affiliated with Jamaat-e-Islami PHOTO: REUTERS

When East Pakistan decided to break away from West Pakistan in 1971, one of the leading factors was the lack of importance accorded by West Pakistan’s bureaucracy and intelligentsia towards the other part of the country. It is not a surprise that the attitude did not change even after the separation of Pakistan’s two wings.

Pakistan’s textbooks are still silent over the atrocities committed by our armed forces and their proxies in 1971. Although West Pakistan may have forgotten, but the people who were subjected to the inhumane behaviour just because they dreamt of a better future, remember it all too vividly.

The demand to prosecute the criminals from 1971 has reverberated in Bangladesh over the years. It was only in 2009 that an International Crimes Tribunal (ICT) was formed set up in Bangladesh to investigate and prosecute suspects for the atrocities committed in 1971.

It should also be noted that Bangladesh’s original constitution of 1972 had declared it a secular state but the 8th amendment, put in effect by General Hussain Mohammad Ershad in 1988, declared Islam as the state religion of Bangladesh. Interestingly, Pakistan also had a notorious 8th amendment to the 1973 constitution, giving the power to dissolve assemblies to the president, put in place by none other than General Ziaul Haq.

In 2010, the Bangladesh High Court declared the constitutional amendment that had changed the country’s secular status to that of an Islamic state was done without lawful authority. This is still pending in the Supreme Court.

It is against this background that the current Shahbag movement should be seen. It started on February 5, 2013 – the day Bangladesh’s ICT awarded a life sentence to Abdul Quader Molla nicknamed ‘Butcher of Mirpur’ for his part in the mass murder and rape of Bengalis in 1971. He is a senior leader of Bangladesh’s Jamaat-e-Islami.

A few days earlier, Delwar Hossain Sayeedi, also a senior leader of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, was sentenced to death on February 28 for war crimes committed during the 1971 Liberation War.

Bangladeshi youth has taken it upon themselves to protest the leniency of the decision awarded to Molla and have taken to gathering at a Dhaka city compound in droves since the past few weeks.

The youth instead has demanded an “exemplary punishment”. They also demand to ban the Jamaat-e-Islami from politics and to boycott institutions supporting or affiliated with Jamaat-e-Islami.

This is a unique moment in modern history of the youth rising up against an Islamist religio-political party due to their agenda.

There is, however, little to no coverage of this historic uprising in Pakistan.

What disappoints me is the fact that there is no imminent chance of any similar movement in our country.

Just the other day, hundreds of homes belonging to Christians were burnt by a frenzied mob supposedly avenging blasphemy. Similar treatment was meted out to Christian localities in Gojra and Shantinagar, in 2009 and 1997 respectively.

In the last one and a half years, hundreds of Shias have been killed hither and thither in Pakistan, just because of their religious beliefs. To achieve anything even close to the Shahbag movement, religion and politics will need to be separated and kept apart.

There is widespread confusion about the term ‘secular’ in the educated class of Pakistan. Being secular, however, does not mean anti-religion per se, as is thought by our masses; it means freedom to choose your religion and not interfere in other people’s religion.

The first person to translate secularism as “la-deeniyat” or atheism was the founder of Jamaat-e-Islami in one of his books written in 1939.

Things have deteriorated so badly in our country that no political party is willing to stand up to religious fundamentalists as elections approach.

A trend has been observed in different countries that the emerging middle classes usually patronise the religious lot, giving them political leverage. This trend has been bucked in Bangladesh’s case and they have chosen a different path. However, what remains to be seen is whether or not the mobilised Bangladeshi youth in Shahbag Square are gathering in support of out-and-out secularism or just animosity towards the Jamaat mixed with nationalistic feelings.

Whatever the case may be, Bangladesh has decided that it won’t let the country be hijacked by politicians peddling their agendas in the name of religion.

Maybe Bangladesh has become the country Mr Jinnah wanted to create.

Maybe Bangladesh has become the country Jinnah wanted to create – The Express Tribune Blog

sickening to see such a view. what distortion of Jinnah's views.. sigh !

 

[IamBengali]

When you start interfering in other countries' internal affairs and start commenting on popular nationalist movement of other countries, such reactions are to be expected..

I agree with you. Pakistan did a huge mistake by poking their nose in Kader Molla case as if he was innocent. Only raped and killed people for his love for Pakistan. So ek resolution toh banta hai boss for the patriot Pakistani.

Pakistan as a nation is immensely hated in BD. Pakistan may want to forget the past but for Bangladesh forgetting the genocide happened in 71 is not possible. Bangalis will die first before forgetting 1971.


Jinnah is not immensely hated but many people don't like that person for one single reason. He proposed Urdu as national / sole state language, not Bangla for East Pakistan which led to violent protest in 1952 which is a core part of Bengal history. Even West Bengal people also observe that day of 1952.

I thank Jinnah for his historic provocative speech. "ONLY and ONLY Urdu will be Pakistan's state language" whereas more than half population during that time used to speak in Bangla.

 

[Anubis]

Jinnah was important for the creation of our country....I think he lost popularity in our part of the world when he declared Urdu as the one and only state language in Curzon Hall!

 

[WAR-rior]

Maybe Bangladesh has become the country Jinnah wanted to create

The Bangladeshi youth demands banning the Jamaat-e-Islami from politics and boycotting of institutions supporting or affiliated with Jamaat-e-Islami PHOTO: REUTERS

When East Pakistan decided to break away from West Pakistan in 1971, one of the leading factors was the lack of importance accorded by West Pakistan’s bureaucracy and intelligentsia towards the other part of the country. It is not a surprise that the attitude did not change even after the separation of Pakistan’s two wings.

Pakistan’s textbooks are still silent over the atrocities committed by our armed forces and their proxies in 1971. Although West Pakistan may have forgotten, but the people who were subjected to the inhumane behaviour just because they dreamt of a better future, remember it all too vividly.

The demand to prosecute the criminals from 1971 has reverberated in Bangladesh over the years. It was only in 2009 that an International Crimes Tribunal (ICT) was formed set up in Bangladesh to investigate and prosecute suspects for the atrocities committed in 1971.

It should also be noted that Bangladesh’s original constitution of 1972 had declared it a secular state but the 8th amendment, put in effect by General Hussain Mohammad Ershad in 1988, declared Islam as the state religion of Bangladesh. Interestingly, Pakistan also had a notorious 8th amendment to the 1973 constitution, giving the power to dissolve assemblies to the president, put in place by none other than General Ziaul Haq.

In 2010, the Bangladesh High Court declared the constitutional amendment that had changed the country’s secular status to that of an Islamic state was done without lawful authority. This is still pending in the Supreme Court.

It is against this background that the current Shahbag movement should be seen. It started on February 5, 2013 – the day Bangladesh’s ICT awarded a life sentence to Abdul Quader Molla nicknamed ‘Butcher of Mirpur’ for his part in the mass murder and rape of Bengalis in 1971. He is a senior leader of Bangladesh’s Jamaat-e-Islami.

A few days earlier, Delwar Hossain Sayeedi, also a senior leader of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, was sentenced to death on February 28 for war crimes committed during the 1971 Liberation War.

Bangladeshi youth has taken it upon themselves to protest the leniency of the decision awarded to Molla and have taken to gathering at a Dhaka city compound in droves since the past few weeks.

The youth instead has demanded an “exemplary punishment”. They also demand to ban the Jamaat-e-Islami from politics and to boycott institutions supporting or affiliated with Jamaat-e-Islami.

This is a unique moment in modern history of the youth rising up against an Islamist religio-political party due to their agenda.

There is, however, little to no coverage of this historic uprising in Pakistan.

What disappoints me is the fact that there is no imminent chance of any similar movement in our country.

Just the other day, hundreds of homes belonging to Christians were burnt by a frenzied mob supposedly avenging blasphemy. Similar treatment was meted out to Christian localities in Gojra and Shantinagar, in 2009 and 1997 respectively.

In the last one and a half years, hundreds of Shias have been killed hither and thither in Pakistan, just because of their religious beliefs. To achieve anything even close to the Shahbag movement, religion and politics will need to be separated and kept apart.

There is widespread confusion about the term ‘secular’ in the educated class of Pakistan. Being secular, however, does not mean anti-religion per se, as is thought by our masses; it means freedom to choose your religion and not interfere in other people’s religion.

The first person to translate secularism as “la-deeniyat” or atheism was the founder of Jamaat-e-Islami in one of his books written in 1939.

Things have deteriorated so badly in our country that no political party is willing to stand up to religious fundamentalists as elections approach.

A trend has been observed in different countries that the emerging middle classes usually patronise the religious lot, giving them political leverage. This trend has been bucked in Bangladesh’s case and they have chosen a different path. However, what remains to be seen is whether or not the mobilised Bangladeshi youth in Shahbag Square are gathering in support of out-and-out secularism or just animosity towards the Jamaat mixed with nationalistic feelings.

Whatever the case may be, Bangladesh has decided that it won’t let the country be hijacked by politicians peddling their agendas in the name of religion.

Maybe Bangladesh has become the country Mr Jinnah wanted to create.

Maybe Bangladesh has become the country Jinnah wanted to create – The Express Tribune Blog

Exactly my point. The report supports it to much extent.

I agree with you. Pakistan did a huge mistake by poking their nose in Kader Molla case as if he was innocent. Only raped and killed people for his love for Pakistan. So ek resolution toh banta hai boss for the patriot Pakistani.

Pakistan as a nation is immensely hated in BD. Pakistan may want to forget the past but for Bangladesh forgetting the genocide happened in 71 is not possible. Bangalis will die first before forgetting 1971.


Jinnah is not immensely hated but many people don't like that person for one single reason. He proposed Urdu as national / sole state language, not Bangla for East Pakistan which led to violent protest in 1952 which is a core part of Bengal history. Even West Bengal people also observe that day of 1952.

I thank Jinnah for his historic provocative speech. "ONLY and ONLY Urdu will be Pakistan's state language" whereas more than half population during that time used to speak in Bangla.

What? R u kidding? Are you a fake Id? You cant be a true Bangladeshi. Bangladeshis (As per flags atleast) on this forum gurantee that Bangladeshis love Pakistanis and those who love India or hate Pakistan are huge minority or non existent.

 

[Chronos]

Jinnah was important for the creation of our country....I think he lost popularity in our part of the world when he declared Urdu as the one and only state language in Curzon Hall!

Even then, I think burning of the effigy is ill advised.

But then again sub continental politicians rather would run on emotions than their governance record.

A comparable history in India would be the Hindi, Hindu, Hindustani brigade.

Tamilians did not like Hindi being imposed. When one's own language is suppressed, a part of your identity is suppressed. When, a heritage as rich of the Banglas.

 

[Leader]

orginal post from Armstrong:

Sung excellently! Did not know about him.

The wiki says:

Life and career

[[[[ Alamgir was born in 1955, in East Pakistan (modern-day Bangladesh) into a Bengali family. His father Farmuzal Haq was a politician and part of the All India Muslim League. He studied in Mirzapur Cadet College, Tangail, Bangladesh. He briefly studied in B A F Shaheen College, Dhaka, Bangladesh. At the age of around 15, he moved to Karachi, West Pakistan in search of a future in the music industry. He had brought nothing else with him but a guitar and a passion to sing.

He settled in the PECHS area of Karachi and started singing in the evenings at a small cafe called “Cafe D Khan” on Tariq Road. He would not get paid for his gig, but did get a free meal each day. The cafe was famous for its intellectual gatherings and that is where he was spotted. His remuneration was a free meal at the hotel.Someone from the audience in the hotel liked his Guitar playing and told him about the programme at the TV station called Ferozan where Khushbakht Aliya was conducting a show for the youth. He gave his audition, Khushbakht liked his Guitar playing but she had already selected someone else. It just so happened that Sohail Rana, the music director was in the next studio and asked someone to call Alamgir to his car outside the TV station. He said, he liked his (Alamgir's) playing and asked if he would like to perform for children. This is how he entered in the formal world of Music.

He started singing on the Pakistani Television at the beginning of the 1970s when the people in Pakistan were not familiar with the modern Urdu music and when western music was generally considered as modern music in Pakistan. Shair Siddiqui's songs for the first pop musical program ‘SUNDAY KE SUNDAY’ series of Karachi Television in 1973/74 and introduced Alamgir with the song ‘ALBELA RAHI’. Albela Rahi. It proved a hit in 1973 among the youth of the 70’s. There was a time during the 70’s when the music loving boys and girls gathered regularly on the streets near the Karachi Jheel Park to get a glimpse of this pop singer as he used to travel along in his red sedan in evening. Alamgir’s second pop song Pyar hai zindagi ka gehna was also an Urdu translation of a foreign song. He soon became popular among the younger generation in the country. Alamgir is also known for his many renditions of Bengali music. The most notable Bengali song he is known to sing is Aamay Bhashaili Rey.[2]

Alamgir made a dash on the Pakistani music scene. He sang for the Pakistani television in the very beginning of his career but later as the time passed he started singing for the Pakistani music industry. He also performs abroad. Alamgir has polycystic kidney disease, undergoes dialysis three times per week and requires a kidney transplant. He currently resides in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. He is respected by the music lovers everywhere and still performs in live concerts in America. He returned to Pakistan and gave a live interview at a morning show on PTV channel named "Subh-e-Nau" on 19 March 2012. He was awarded pride of performance by the President of Pakistan due to his amazing performances in Pakistan throughout 80's and 90's. ]]]]

Brilliant song by Sir Alamgir !

Jinnah was important for the creation of our country....I think he lost popularity in our part of the world when he declared Urdu as the one and only state language in Curzon Hall!

yeah and gave rest of us some privilege to use our local languages as state language.... and he himself was unable to speak urdu language, seems a perfect conspiracy against Bangali brothers, hence this is why Jinnah lost popularity...!

 

[Anubis]

Brilliant song by Sir Alamgir !



yeah and gave rest of us some privilege to use our local languages as state language.... and he himself was unable to speak urdu language, seems a perfect conspiracy against Bangali brothers, hence this is why Jinnah lost popularity...!

you don't believe he declared Urdu as the only state language??