Bangladesh Navy

[BDforever]

I think it is comparable to F22P(smaller hull but more advanced equipment)

can you provide more details ?

 

[aliaselin]

can you provide more details ?

see the display card. Displacement is not accurate, from 1500 ton ~ 2000 ton in different exhibition.

 

[BDforever]

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see the display card. Displacement is not accurate, from 1500 ton ~ 2000 ton in different exhibition.

any idea about the price ?
and the other vessel in the picture is the durjoy class

 

[aliaselin]

any idea about the price ?
and the other vessel in the picture is the durjoy class

200 million dollars I guess.
Seems like Dujoy class, or similar one

 

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

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see the display card. Displacement is not accurate, from 1500 ton ~ 2000 ton in different exhibition.

someone is talking sense now.....
97m, 1,500ton ship with 24 VLS and a helicopter hanger..... thats ship designing!!
it seems very much a modular design, doesn't it?....

and previously BN went for Durjoy-class as well as Padma-class..... both the classes are custom-desgined for BN.... even the BNS Bangabandhu was almost custom-made.... so, I won't be surprised if BN went for completely new designs for future frigates and corvettes.... but as the Type 056 program is well under way, I think the future building programs may involve ships a bit larger than Type 056.....

 

[Bilal9]

someone is talking sense now.....
97m, 1,500ton ship with 24 VLS and a helicopter hanger..... thats ship designing!!
it seems very much a modular design, doesn't it?....

and previously BN went for Durjoy-class as well as Padma-class..... both the classes are custom-desgined for BN.... even the BNS Bangabandhu was almost custom-made.... so, I won't be surprised if BN went for completely new designs for future frigates and corvettes.... but as the Type 056 program is well under way, I think the future building programs may involve ships a bit larger than Type 056.....

You're right - this is probably the next corvette class after the Type 056. I like the fact that the superstructure has even more faceted stealth features than the Type 056 and that the CIWS units front and back are almost hidden (probably also for reducing radar signature).

I think that displacement-wise this slots right in between the Type 056 and 054 classes, and as a result is a larger ultramodern follow-on design with VLS after the Type 056.

I am basing this on the fact that the Indian Navy next door has followed on the design of their late-90's Kora class (1500 ton) missile corvettes with much larger (3000 ton) Kamorta class missile corvettes with way more armament and endurance (although wikipedia says they're the same at 4000 Naut. Miles ) which are being laid up and launched within the last two-three years. This is likely the result of doctrinal change converting smaller low-capability missile craft classes (brown water ships) to semi blue-water capability classes, which of course is beyond the scope of the Bangladesh Navy. However - Kamorta class also has a 16 cell Barak 1 VLS and the capability to host much larger ASW helicopters (Sea King) than the Kora class (HAL Chetak aka Alouette) which of course has no VLS. You can make your own conclusions. The straight scoop is that eventually VLS is going to be incorporated into almost all 1500 ton corvettes as well, as missile suites get more advanced, lightweight and compact.

 

[Bilal9]

You're right - this is probably the next corvette class after the Type 056. I like the fact that the superstructure has even more faceted stealth features than the Type 056 and that the CIWS units front and back are almost hidden (probably also for reducing radar signature).

I think that displacement-wise this slots right in between the Type 056 and 054 classes, and as a result is a larger ultramodern follow-on design with VLS after the Type 056.

I am basing this on the fact that the Indian Navy next door has followed on the design of their late-90's Kora class (1500 ton) missile corvettes with much larger (3000 ton) Kamorta class missile corvettes with way more armament and endurance (although wikipedia says they're the same at 4000 Naut. Miles ) which are being laid up and launched within the last two-three years. This is likely the result of doctrinal change converting smaller low-capability missile craft classes (brown water ships) to semi blue-water capability classes, which of course is beyond the scope of the Bangladesh Navy. However - Kamorta class also has a 16 cell Barak 1 VLS and the capability to host much larger ASW helicopters (Sea King) than the Kora class (HAL Chetak aka Alouette) which of course has no VLS. You can make your own conclusions. The straight scoop is that eventually VLS is going to be incorporated into almost all 1500 ton corvettes as well, as missile suites get more advanced, lightweight and compact.

One more comment I could not help but make - if the recent naming of new classes being built in China is anything to go by, the definitive new corvette design was logically going to be called type 059. Why ?

Old Destroyer type 052 - New Destroyer type 055 (add 3 to type number)
Old Frigate type 054 - New Frigate type 057 (add 3 to type number), so...
Old Corvette type 056 - New Corvette type should be 059.

But 059 type number is currently reserved for Jiangwei III Frigate class. So what is the official type designation for this new corvette that Aliaselin shared the link for? Or is it not named yet?

 

[BDforever]

One more comment I could not help but make - if the recent naming of new classes being built in China is anything to go by, the definitive new corvette design was logically going to be called type 059. Why ?

Old Destroyer type 052 - New Destroyer type 055 (add 3 to type number)
Old Frigate type 054 - New Frigate type 057 (add 3 to type number), so...
Old Corvette type 056 - New Corvette type should be 059.

But 059 type number is currently reserved for Jiangwei III Frigate class. So what is the official type designation for this new corvette that Aliaselin shared the link for? Or is it not named yet?

not named yet

 

[Penguin]

I will express my ignorance - but does C28A or F22P have VLS systems offered by the Chinese? Or did the PN get VLS from some other country?

Neither currenly has a Chinese VLS, nor do I expect it will get is anytime soon.

And as I mentioned previously - China type 052D is almost exact copy of the USS Arleigh Burke class DDG complete with Phased Array radar and AEGIS type system.

No it isn't a copy. For starters, the Burkes are a good 2000-2500 larger in displacement.

The frigate type 054 looks like its just scaled up from the type 056 corvette and therefore a scaled up Damen Schelde Sigma class design.

Type 056 emerged well after Type 054/A. There is no relation between Type 056 and Damen Sigma series whatsoever (they don't even look alike)

Interesting tidbit is that the Chinese have built a proof-of-concept 1/5th scale LCS design after the USS Independence tri-maran. Pretty neat looking if you ask me...

It is modelled after the British RV Triton

 

[Bilal9]

Neither currenly has a Chinese VLS, nor do I expect it will get is anytime soon.



No it isn't a copy. For starters, the Burkes are a good 2000-2500 larger in displacement.


Type 056 emerged well after Type 054/A. There is no relation between Type 056 and Damen Sigma series whatsoever (they don't even look alike)


It is modelled after the British RV Triton

Appreciate the comments. I was basing the similarity between the Type 056 and Sigma going by the following images and stealth features,

Type 056

Damen Sigma (KRI Sultan Iskandar Muda)

The details may not be exactly alike but the rough proportions and dimensions are probably similar.

 

[Penguin]

Appreciate the comments. I was basing the similarity between the Type 056 and Sigma going by the following images and stealth features,

Type 056

Damen Sigma (KRI Sultan Iskandar Muda)

The details may not be exactly alike but the rough proportions and dimensions are probably similar.

Damen Sigma 9113 (Indonesia)

Damen Sigma 9813 (Morocco)

Damen SIgma 9814 (Vietnam)

sigma damen 10513 (Morocco)

Specs here Sigma-class corvette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Type 056

 

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

whether these ships look similar or not.... is this really an issue for Bangladesh Navy?.... we are discussing Bangladesh Navy here....

 

[Bilal9]

whether these ships look similar or not.... is this really an issue for Bangladesh Navy?.... we are discussing Bangladesh Navy here....

The relevancy comes because type 056 - according to some of my sources (one link below which says type 056 is equivalent to the Sigma 9113) is a close equivalent of the Damen Sigma at close to one-third or one-fourth the cost, even without considering lower cost Chinese weapons suites. Of course the type 056 is one of the ten best corvettes in the world today design-wise as is the Sigma class. Since BN is building two of the type 056 at KSY, it pays to research what weapons suites various navies have chosen for the Sigma class as they would also apply somewhat to BN's type 056 builds.

PLA Navy Commissions First Type 056 Corvette, Bengbu | Defense Media Network

@Penguin thanks for posting the images. It is clear that the Sigma class (and which rings true with the type 056 as well) is not one single design but variations of designs which you can scale up or down and include (or not) weapons suites which countries require according to their patrolling needs (e.g. ECM choices and type and numbers of AshM, SAM and land attack missiles among other things). Eventually I see the type 056 sport an integrated mast like the Sigma class as well.

 

[Penguin]

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[aliaselin]

One more comment I could not help but make - if the recent naming of new classes being built in China is anything to go by, the definitive new corvette design was logically going to be called type 059. Why ?

Old Destroyer type 052 - New Destroyer type 055 (add 3 to type number)
Old Frigate type 054 - New Frigate type 057 (add 3 to type number), so...
Old Corvette type 056 - New Corvette type should be 059.

But 059 type number is currently reserved for Jiangwei III Frigate class. So what is the official type designation for this new corvette that Aliaselin shared the link for? Or is it not named yet?

This is for export only, so should with a name like f18b. we will never equip with this kind of ship because type 056 is more focused on asw and patrol mission but not like yours for multi-role.