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Exactly , Turkish weapons are pretty good ngl but I still don't know why BN doesn't have a partner for the next gen frigate program ?
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BN doesn't use US engine, it uses French/German ones AFAIK. I don't think a scale down 6000 tons version of TF-2000 within $700 million is possible for us. Too much wet dream. In that case something based on Iver Huitfeldt can be considered. Turkey still can't produce all of it's naval weapons and not all of them are proven yet. Instead of being sentimental we should think logically. I don't why but i feel like we will still award major projects to the Chinese. At least all these developments indicates that way.
Same thing every year, eh? Only exception was probably firing AShM from C-13B corvette i think.
BN may end up with 14-16 next-gen frigates by 2040 as speculated by @Michael Corleone. Best to go with a country that can be 100% relied on and no strings attached when it comes to use of the weapons supplied.
Going Turkish would be best for both BD and Turkey. Such a large order from a friendly Muslim country would pump billions of US dollars into the Turkish defence industry and allow it to catch up even quicker with the military powers in Europe like France.
@The Ronin
Dude why the laughs at my posts?
Most posters think it is a good idea apart from you.
You seem to be totally outnumbered here. I have already explained to you the logic and so if you do not agree at least stop acting like a petulant child who is not getting his own way here. You are just looking like a spoilt brat.
If BN was to go for a cut-down 6000 tonne frigate then expect the price to come down to 6-700 million dollars each and that seems to be affordable for BN if the ships are delivered from 2025-2029.
As to problems with the weapons system, remember that nearly all will be replaced with indigenous Turkish ones from 2025 onwards. Only thing that BN will really have to wait for is the long-range Hisar-U, most of the rest should be available with the first delivered vessel.
@The Ronin
Dude why the laughs at my posts?
Most posters think it is a good idea apart from you.
You seem to be totally outnumbered here. I have already explained to you the logic and so if you do not agree at least stop acting like a petulant child who is not getting his own way here. You are just looking like a spoilt brat.
Rest of what BN needs can be made in Turkey.
As for Turkish weapons, they will all be available by the mid-2020s apart from the long range SAM. BN can afford to wait for the long range SAM as long as it gets the short-medium range ones with the first ships into service by 2025/2026.
Guys BN does use a US Engine at this time. The Hamilton class cutters use the GE LM2500 series Gas Turbines as part of CODOG propulsion as far as I know. Unless this has changed recently.
Dude, you just need to grow up.
You seem young and immature and totally devoid of strategic thinking from your posts.
PS - Why did you spend time writing a whole essay as no-one is likely to read even 10% of it!
I read his whole essay and it seems logical...BN will never ever choose Turkish sensors and radars over thales and leonardo..I can bet on it.Dude, you just need to grow up.
You seem young and immature and totally devoid of strategic thinking from your posts.
PS - Why did you spend time writing a whole essay as no-one is likely to read even 10% of it!
There can be provisions for Turkish designs with western sensors no?I read his whole essay and it seems logical...BN will never ever choose Turkish sensors and radars over thales and leonardo..I can bet on it.
Btw what's BN's budget for six frigates ?
Of course there can be...personally I liked the new Turkish frigate design...but I think BN will go for 4000/4000+ tonThere can be provisions for Turkish designs with western sensors no?
Ittadi is a vintage 80s show that survived because of this guyGuys I am not a fan of entertainment programs like "Ittadi", but he did a program on BN a few days ago. Watch around 34 minute mark to 40 minute mark for some Navy footage that I haven't seen before, ignore the song/dance/skits (not my cup of tea).
Footage shown is of BNS Prottoy, which is a C13B class Corvette, and some interior footage inside our subs.
I am glad he didn't say we are all Sudanis.