Bangladesh Air Force

[Roybot]

Can you give me an example?

No of course not. You can't expect such examples to be out in the open surely!

Bottom line is, China will not sell anything cutting edge to any country and risk its capabilities getting exposed. This is the one of the strongest points of Chinese weapon systems, they are relatively unknown and enemies have to keep guessing just how capable Chinese weapons are.

Your country would prefer to keep this advantage. This is also the reason why China always has a second line of weapon systems specifically designed and manufactured for export to other countries.

 

[Bilal9]

J-10s are the main stay of PLAAF and will be the next 10-15 years. China would prefer to keep the capabilities of this platform a secret. Anything BAF has/will have, is and will be an open book for India and USA. Bangladeshis will deny this, but that is the truth.



Pathetic little Bangladeshi, why do you always act like a cunt? Two people are having a civilized conversation, but you have to come and shit with your jaahil mouth.

Ha ha ha - Dada got triggered...

Take a chill pill, this is just a forum.....

 

[Roybot]

Ha ha ha - Dada got triggered...

Take a chill pill, this is just a forum.....

Why on earth would I get triggered, its just unnecessary to involve someone's personal life into all this. I am a well wisher of Bangladesh, and want nothing but good for Bangladesh.

P.S: Am not a Bengali, not sure if that is why you are calling me Dada. I would rather prefer Bhai/Vai.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Anything BAF has/will have, is and will be an open book for India and USA. Bangladeshis will deny this, but that is the truth.

I disagree strongly. The military never liked India, never will imo... they’re just to suspicious to involve India in anything other than a yearly excercise

 

[UKBengali]

No of course not. You can't expect such examples to be out in the open surely!

Bottom line is, China will not sell anything cutting edge to any country and risk its capabilities getting exposed. This is the one of the strongest points of Chinese weapon systems, they are relatively unknown and enemies have to keep guessing just how capable Chinese weapons are.

Your country would prefer to keep this advantage. This is also the reason why China always has a second line of weapon systems specifically designed and manufactured for export to other countries.

China would dearly love to sell J-10C version and their most advanced frigate tech to BD.
BD seems like it is not interested in the frigate tech(most likely will go with an EU design) but the J-10C will almost certainly be purchased to be used against India if required.

By "cutting-edge" you probably mean stuff like Type-052D destroyer, Type-055 Cruiser, latest long-range SAMs and J-20 fighter etc.
Also we can of course take out nuclear weapons and stuff like SSNs and SSBNs, although some Chinese posters think that China may sell BD the improved Type-093SSN if BD asks.

J-10s are the main stay of PLAAF and will be the next 10-15 years. China would prefer to keep the capabilities of this platform a secret. Anything BAF has/will have, is and will be an open book for India and USA. Bangladeshis will deny this, but that is the truth.

It is your opinion that BD will give away J-10 tech to India and or USA. Think about it this way, BD military has not purchase a single bullet from India yet.

J-10 can be exported as the J-20 is in service. Anyway China may not export it's own J-10C version but make a customised version which will have different type of radar(although not necessarily inferior) and EW systems. This means that even if BD betrayed the tech to a 3rd party, China's national security is not massively affected.


@wanglaokan
@Chinese-Dragon
@ChineseTiger1986

Can you guys provide your thoughts on this matter?

 

[TopCat]

No of course not. You can't expect such examples to be out in the open surely!

Bottom line is, China will not sell anything cutting edge to any country and risk its capabilities getting exposed. This is the one of the strongest points of Chinese weapon systems, they are relatively unknown and enemies have to keep guessing just how capable Chinese weapons are.

Your country would prefer to keep this advantage. This is also the reason why China always has a second line of weapon systems specifically designed and manufactured for export to other countries.

If they are afraid of stealing the tech they can always omit that from export version. That is why every country have a export version for their product when it comes to defense.
BD is the 2nd largest buyer of Chinese weapons. Most of the high tech they sold came to BD.

 

[Roybot]

China would dearly love to sell J-10C version and their most advanced frigate tech to BD.
BD seems like it is not interested in the frigate tech(most likely will go with an EU design) but the J-10C will almost certainly be purchased to be used against India if required.

By "cutting-edge" you probably mean stuff like Type-052D destroyer, Type-055 Cruiser, latest long-range SAMs and J-20 fighter etc.
Also we can of course take out nuclear weapons and stuff like SSNs and SSBNs, although some Chinese posters think that China may sell BD the improved Type-093SSN if BD asks.




It is your opinion that BD will give away J-10 tech to India and or USA. Think about it this way, BD military has not purchase a single bullet from India yet.

J-10 can be exported as the J-20 is in service. Anyway China may not export it's own J-10C version but make a customised version which will have different type of radar(although not necessarily inferior) and EW systems. This means that even if BD betrayed the tech to a 3rd party, China's national security is not massively affected.


@wanglaokan
@Chinese-Dragon
@ChineseTiger1986

Can you guys provide your thoughts on this matter?

Of course it is just my mere opinion based on observation, none of us here are policy makers exactly!

J-10 will be exported maybe 10-15 years down the line, but as long it operates as PLAAF's primary interceptor they would rather keep its capabilities a secret.

If they are afraid of stealing the tech they can always omit that from export version. That is why every country have a export version for their product when it comes to defense.
BD is the 2nd largest buyer of Chinese weapons. Most of the high tech they sold came to BD.

Its not about tech so much, its more to do with what this fighter is capable of in the air.

Of course Bangladesh buys a lot of Chinese weapons, as do a lot of other countries. That is why Chinese have a separate range of products especially meant for export. None of what China sells to Bangladesh is its front line weapon.

 

[TopCat]

Its not about tech so much, its more to do with what this fighter is capable of in the air.

Of course Bangladesh buys a lot of Chinese weapons, as do a lot of other countries. That is why Chinese have a separate range of products especially meant for export. None of what China sells to Bangladesh is its front line weapon.

What are the front line weapons chinese sells to other country that will not be sold to BD?
J-10C is not a export restricted weapon and is show cased in various air show as a sellable item.
@wanglaokan @LKJ86

 

[LKJ86]

Of course it is just my mere opinion based on observation, none of us here are policy makers exactly!

J-10 will be exported maybe 10-15 years down the line, but as long it operates as PLAAF's primary interceptor they would rather keep its capabilities a secret.

J-10/FC-20 has got the export permission, and trained with Thailand's JAS-39 in 2017 and 2018.

 

[帅的一匹]

What are the front line weapons chinese sells to other country that will not be sold to BD?
J-10C is not a export restricted weapon and is show cased in various air show as a sellable item.
@wanglaokan @LKJ86

how is the J10 deal going? i m eager to wait for it.

 

[LKJ86]

What are the front line weapons chinese sells to other country that will not be sold to BD?

If you can pay for it, you can get what you want.
For instance, Saudi Arabia has bought DF-3 and DF-21 ballistic missiles.

 

[Michael Corleone]

BD seems like it is not interested in the frigate tech(most likely will go with an EU design) but the J-10C will almost certainly be purchased to be used against India if required.

was, until china demanded part ownerships of naval yards in bangladesh.... which is why frigate program stalled.... now it's open to everyone....

 

[UKBengali]

was, until china demanded part ownerships of naval yards in bangladesh.... which is why frigate program stalled.... now it's open to everyone....

Whatever it is, looks like it will not go with China now.

Makes sense to go for EU design as BD needs to reduce dependence on China.

The only large order I can see that BD will make with China now is some squadrons(2-3) of a BD version of J-10C.
After that, nada.

 

[mb444]

China will sell J10 to BD without any issue....although it will be the export version.

The US wont be particularly interested as China still has a fair way to go challenging the west in military technology. Even if they were BD will not share.

As with India, it is the usual hindutva wet dream that BD will share its military secret with its biggest enemy and pi**ing off its primary source of military hardware.

Too much bovine urine leads to such nonsense.

Whatever it is, looks like it will not go with China now.

Makes sense to go for EU design as BD needs to reduce dependence on China.

The only large order I can see that BD will make with China now is some squadrons(2-3) of a BD version of J-10C.
After that, nada.

BD will progressively diversify where it buys military hardware from, but I fully expect China to remain our primary military partner for the simple reason we share a common enemy.

 

[LKJ86]

we share a common enemy

I agree.