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'BALLISTIC MISSILE FIRED BY SYRIA POSED A DIRECT THREAT TO ISRAEL'

did they really just call an S-200 missile a ballistic missile.

even a 10 year old can tell you, you do not use this type of missiles to threaten civilians, it is for aircraft.

That said other then sabre-ratttling by Liebermann, I don't see too big an issue with this. The Jews launched an attack in Syria, the Syrians opened fire on them & the Jews managed to get away and shoot down a SAM that entered Golan Heights... A non-issue in my opinion. the Israelis were technically correct in intercepting the missile while Syria was correct to fire on the jets while it was in Syrian airspace.
 
Intresting ! but it mentions rafale,does israel have any??arent they french made??
 
Intresting ! but it mentions rafale,does israel have any??arent they french made??
Rafale = French Company
Rafael = Israeli company
Rafael is making Iron Dome, David Sling, Spyder, Spike missiles, Derby, Python among other things

Israel explains Arrow intercept of Syrian SAM
By: Barbara Opall-Rome, March 20, 2017 (Photo Credit: Pierre Verdy/AFP via Getty Images)
TEL AVIV — A senior Israeli Air Force officer on Monday provided operational context to the unusual March 17 Arrow intercept of a Syrian SA-5 surface-to-air missile, which the jointly developed U.S.-Israel anti-ballistic missile system was not designed to fight.

Briefing reporters here, the officer said the Syrian SAM launched against Israeli fighter aircraft following a bombing mission in Syria “behaved like a ballistic threat” with “an altitude, range and ballistic trajectory” that mimicked the Scud-class targets the Arrow 2 interceptor was designed to kill.

“It wasn’t a Scud-class ballistic threat. But from our perspective, it doesn’t matter if it was a SAM. Once it behaved like a ballistic missile weighing tons and with a warhead of hundreds of kilograms, we couldn’t allow it to threaten our cities and towns,” the officer said.

When asked to identify the specific threat, the officer confirmed that the Arrow 2 had indeed scored its first operational intercept against a Syrian SA-5.

“In this case, it behaved just like a ballistic missile,” he added.


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Another military officer later explained that in the aftermath of the March 17 attack, Syria launched several SA-5s in a southwestern direction toward Israel as Israeli F-15Is were returning home from “a successful strike mission against high-value assets” destined for Hezbollah arsenals across the border in Lebanon.

Contrary to criticism leveled over the weekend by former Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who suggested that Israel should not have launched Arrow in order to preserve the country’s longstanding policy of ambiguity regarding periodic strike operations in Syria, the senior Israeli Air Force officer said Israeli air defenders didn’t think twice about acting against the approaching threat.

“No doubt about it, our mission is to detect and engage this threat, and that’s exactly what we did Friday morning. The mission of our air defense forces, under my responsibility, is to defend the people of Israel. And that was the case last week when Syria launched a missile that was seen as a ballistic threat to Israel,” the officer said.


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Experts on Friday had surmised that since Arrow was not designed to intercept SAMs, and since such anti-air missiles are not part of the system’s database that automatically tracks trajectories and predicts impact points of incoming ballistic missiles, that the target of the early morning March 17 interception could have been a Scud-class missile.

Based on scant information available at the time, experts wondered why Israel would launch Arrow against a SAM that ostensibly should have posed no threat to the homeland, given that it aimed to shoot down Israeli fighters operating hundreds of kilometers away. They noted that the SA-5 is designed to either hit enemy aircraft or self-explode after a few seconds of engine burn, rather than proceed flying intact along a flight profile that matches that of Scud-class targets.

But given the officer’s explanation, one expert here noted that the Syrian-launched SA-5 could have been very old, and thus did not self-destruct as designed.

“It should have destroyed itself. But it’s an old missile and it probably remained in one piece. And in that case, if it didn’t self-destruct after a certain time, all the weight was in the front and it represented a stable body, large wings and a tail … all the characteristics of a ballistic missile trajectory,” said Uzi Rubin, a former director of Israel Missile Defense Organization.

“Now it all makes perfect sense. … Apparently the software of the Arrow system is such that is flexible enough to cope with unexpected situations," he added.

“It’s an impressive achievement for which we all should be very proud.”

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/israel-explains-arrow-intercept-of-syrian-sam

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You need to understand that arming terror organization against Israel is an act of war, and Israel and Syria are in WAR.
We'll do what ever it takes to protect our citizens, even it means to destroy all of Syria air defense next time


Talk logic we all know how much strong Hezbollah is and how much it has grown in both men and equipment wise due to Syrian civil war. At the moment Russia does not consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization like you people so if before it was only Iran arming them so now Syria and Russia are also arming them. The interesting part is now when Iran and Russia both are active in Syria and America is not much in the mood to intervene b/w Russian operations than how will you be able to fight Hazbulla who has alot more than few Rpg type rockets now and will be able to get a constant flow of military equipment if a war as you say happen b/w you two. The loss in the long run if you poke the Hazbullah will be with you as they will fight a gurellia war and you won't be able to put much foots on the ground in syria and aerial denial will also be present from Syrian regime or maybe from Russia as well.
 
You need to understand that arming terror organization against Israel is an act of war, and Israel and Syria are in WAR.
We'll do what ever it takes to protect our citizens, even it means to destroy all of Syria air defense next time
Do hit russian S-300 next time or stfu .
 
You need to understand that arming terror organization against Israel is an act of war, and Israel and Syria are in WAR.
We'll do what ever it takes to protect our citizens, even it means to destroy all of Syria air defense next time

We will hold you to your word. Let's see how you attempt to engage Russia in Syria.
 
We will hold you to your word. Let's see how you attempt to engage Russia in Syria.
What it has to do with Syrian air defense? S400 is under russian control, not syrian control.
S-200 however, is syrian controlled.
 
What it has to do with Syrian air defense? S400 is under russian control, not syrian control.
S-200 however, is syrian controlled.

All shots in Syria are called by Russia. You know that. When Israel says that it will retaliate in Syria it is inevitable that Russia is going to be involved.
 
You need to understand that arming terror organization against Israel is an act of war, and Israel and Syria are in WAR.
We'll do what ever it takes to protect our citizens, even it means to destroy all of Syria air defense next time

That's what they want to do , to drag you into this mess

Maybe it's a terror organisation for you but it's public famous party in that country
Also Israel is one of terror organisation it self
 
Investments by the US and Usraeli weapon firms 50% each..US tech 95%, Usraeli teh 5% of which 100% is from the US.. just to say they are participating..:lol:
Again, nothing to do with facts, all is propaganda.
Damn, this thing called a defense forum or a kinder garden
 
what would be overall estimated cost??
As far as I know from old credible sources, Usrael got $100s of billions since its inception.. the $20 to $30 billion new aid package is the tip of the iceberg, since they do not count the billions coming from donations world wide and that are exceptionally tax free if they concern Usrael..At some point the Whole IDF budget was paid for by the US including soldier's salaries, not sure if it is still going on though..That alone amounted to some $40 billion a year..
 
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As far as I know from old credible sources, Usrael got $100s of billions since its inception.. the $20 to $30 billion new aid package is the tip of the iceberg, since they do not count the billions coming from donations world wide and that are exceptionally tax free if they concern Usrael..At some point the Whole IDF budget was paid for by the US including soldier's salaries, not sure if it is still going on though..
During 1950–66, Israel spent an average of 9% of its GDP on defense. Defense expenditures increased dramatically after both the 1967 and 1973 wars. They reached a high of about 24% of GDP in the 1980s, but have since come down significantly, following the signing of peace agreements with Jordan and Egypt.

On 30 September 2009 Defense Minister Ehud Barak, Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu endorsed an additional NIS 1.5 billion for the defense budget to help Israel address problems regarding Iran. The budget changes came two months after Israel had approved its current two-year budget. The defense budget in 2009 stood at NIS 48.6 billion and NIS 53.2 billion for 2010 – the highest amount in Israel's history. The figure constituted 6.3% of expected gross domestic product and 15.1% of the overall budget, even before the planned NIS 1.5 billion addition.[78]

However, in 2011, the prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu reversed course and moved to make significant cuts in the defense budget in order to pay for social programs.[79] The General Staff concluded that the proposed cuts endangered the battle readiness of the armed forces.[80] In 2012, Israel spent $15.2 billion on its armed forces, one of the highest ratios of defense spending to GDP among developed countries ($1,900 per person). However, Israel's spending per capita is below that of the USA.[81]
 

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