Balance of power tips toward Iran

[MoshteAhani]

Iranian Influence on the blood of the Syrian Children and inncocent civilians.

Terrorists just attacked and killed dozens of people in your country you clown... go do something about that instead whining about a issue you have no business with (other than sending your underage girls to get banged by jihadis).

 

[TheGrim]

I hope they try that sh*t on Turkmens

 

[Surenas]

I hope they try that sh*t on Turkmens

What would you do?

Because ISIS already did. There were mass graves found by Shiite militias in Bashir of Turkmens killed by ISIS. It was Iran by the way that freed the siege on the Turkmen village of Amerli.

Here you see Iranian general Qassem Suleimani with Turkmen commander Abu Ali:

Here you see Turkmen fighters in Bashir in Kirkuk pictured with Iranian arms:

Iran is going to form a Turkmen force of 10.000 fighters in Iraq:

The influential military chief Suleimani aims to form new battalions including a total of 10,000 fighters until October, all of whom are Shiite Turkmen.

Iran unveils 'sectarian' card to split Iraqi Turkmen community

Your country did not do anything to help the Turkmens in Iraq. Iran did, and that is why many Turkmens in Iraq have turned to Iran.

 

[TheGrim]

@Surenas

What would we do? Arm them (already being done) Train them (in progress) and if need be send in Turkish army elements to protect them.

On the ISIS issue I that to give you, our leaders couldn't show any balls in that case. However if such a hypothetical massacre were to be clearly published the public pressure would force the government to act strongly no matter who the aggressors are (remember Cyprus).

As for the Iranian generals..kudos to them IF they are SINCERE and don't throw them to the wolves after the turmoil in Iraq is put to rest.

 

[Hiptullha]

But Indians also support Israel, isnt it a paradox that you call them brothers but curse Arabs for alleged support?

Iranians pretend that they hate Israel when the truth is, during the 1979 Iran-Iraq war, they were happy to receive Israeli covert support. Search it up. Those pious, righteous Iranian mullahs who've launched a holy war against Der Juden, the vicious Zionists of the Middle East received Israeli support to defeat one of their own neighbours.

Terrorists just attacked and killed dozens of people in your country you clown... go do something about that instead whining about a issue you have no business with (other than sending your underage girls to get banged by jihadis).

Irony is both of you are complaining about terrorism while the state of Iran is sponsoring militants, and mass-murdering regimes. No point comparing Tunisia which has had rogue citizens running off to join the Islamic State to Iran which is exploiting the Shia faith to send thousands of fighters from across the region to Syria and Iraq. Compare yourselves to Saudi Arabia or Qatar, not Tunisia.

 

[Hiptullha]

@Surenas

What would we do? Arm them (already being done) Train them (in progress) and if need be send in Turkish army elements to protect them.

On the ISIS issue I that to give you, our leaders couldn't show any balls in that case. However if such a hypothetical massacre were to be clearly published the public pressure would force the government to act strongly no matter who the aggressors are (remember Cyprus).

As for the Iranian generals..kudos to them IF they are SINCERE and don't throw them to the wolves after the turmoil in Iraq is put to rest.

Notice what happened to the government in Iraq. For a whole decade, they catered to the anti-Sunni whims of the Iranians and apparently made life hell for the Sunni populace of Iraq. Notice how easily the Iraqi army collapsed. Where were our superstar Iranian generals?

 

[Surenas]

Notice what happened to the government in Iraq. For a whole decade, they catered to the anti-Sunni whims of the Iranians and apparently made life hell for the Sunni populace of Iraq. Notice how easily the Iraqi army collapsed. Where were our superstar Iranian generals?

You do realize that the Iraqi army collapsed due to internal schism, right? The fact that many Sunni soldiers left their position, officers who fled and the Sunni population that helped ISIS in taking over the city. Iran had nothing to do with it. Besides, whenever ISIS faces serious resistance by local population, like in the Shiite city of Amerli, they get their asses whooped every time.

 

[Daneshmand]

Notice what happened to the government in Iraq. For a whole decade, they catered to the anti-Sunni whims of the Iranians and apparently made life hell for the Sunni populace of Iraq. Notice how easily the Iraqi army collapsed. Where were our superstar Iranian generals?

Oh, you mean the same way, Pakistan Army has made the life of Sunnis a hell in FATA and PATA areas. Do you know how many Sunnis were killed by Pakistan Army in those areas? How many Sunni homes were destroyed by Pakistan Army?

Ah, I see. They are bad Taliban. But if the same ideology is operating in Iraq then they are Sunnis. In Pakistan they are called "dahshatgard".

You are a hypocrite. A pathetic one.

Iranians pretend that they hate Israel when the truth is, during the 1979 Iran-Iraq war, they were happy to receive Israeli covert support. Search it up. Those pious, righteous Iranian mullahs who've launched a holy war against Der Juden, the vicious Zionists of the Middle East received Israeli support to defeat one of their own neighbours.



Irony is both of you are complaining about terrorism while the state of Iran is sponsoring militants, and mass-murdering regimes. No point comparing Tunisia which has had rogue citizens running off to join the Islamic State to Iran which is exploiting the Shia faith to send thousands of fighters from across the region to Syria and Iraq. Compare yourselves to Saudi Arabia or Qatar, not Tunisia.

All propaganda. Meanwhile while you are at it, why not talk about Shamsi base. Which country was getting paid so that Afghan and Pakistani Sunnis get droned to death. Any guess?

State of Iran is safe and sound. Worry about your state. Pakistan from its North to South is getting dissolved. Because hypocrites like you can not accept the truth that your sectarian agenda to Takfir every one else is eating away at the foundation of Pakistan.

But do not worry. Pakistan army has woken up and will continue to kill as many of your Takifir ideology sympathizers as it takes to stablize Pakistan. Now go and call your army a sectarian, anti-Sunni force. Lol.

 

[Hiptullha]

Oh, you mean the same way, Pakistan Army has made the life of Sunnis a hell in FATA and PATA areas. Do you know how many Sunnis were killed by Pakistan Army in those areas? How many Sunni homes were destroyed by Pakistan Army?

Ah, I see. They are bad Taliban. But if the same ideology is operating in Iraq then they are Sunnis. In Pakistan they are called "dahshatgard".

You are a hypocrite. A pathetic one.

Two completely different topics. Credit for the pathetic attempt at deflection.
It's a known fact that Nouri-al-Maliki was prejudiced against the Sunnis and made sure that it was mostly the Shi'ites who held the greater deal of political power.
If you want to make a comparison, East Pakistan and 1971 is a good place to start.

All propaganda. Meanwhile while you are at it, why not talk about Shamsi base. Which country was getting paid so that Afghan and Pakistani Sunnis get droned to death. Any guess?

Give me a break. You can't just dismiss anything which doesn't go along with your deluded world view is propaganda.

State of Iran is safe and sound. Worry about your state. Pakistan from its North to South is getting dissolved. Because hypocrites like you can not accept the truth that your sectarian agenda to Takfir every one else is eating away at the foundation of Pakistan.

But do not worry. Pakistan army has woken up and will continue to kill as many of your Takifir ideology sympathizers as it takes to stablize Pakistan. Now go and call your army a sectarian, anti-Sunni force. Lol.

Full of nonsense. First of all, this "worry about your state." cheap remark made by the Indians, Chinese and Iranians on this forum is absolutely pathetic. How about you worry about your own state first? Get off this Pakistani Defence Forum and return to your echo boxes where you can swallow the regurgitated propaganda of your fellow Iranians. If you're going to stay on this forum, get used to opposing views and don't resort to cheap remarks like that.

Iran is safe and sound? Please, no jokes. How can Iran be safe when its been at this game of supporting militia groups and warlords all across the Middle East and Central Asia since the 1980s? Of course, Saudi Arabia will eventually be bitten in the *** by their own proxies, but Iran is big, Iran is stronk. Iran never fall. Shia militia groups are fighting in 4 fronts. You will eventually be bitten in the ***, either by the drug traffickers and warlords you support or your enemies.

You do realize that the Iraqi army collapsed due to internal schism, right? The fact that many Sunni soldiers left their position, officers who fled and the Sunni population that helped ISIS in taking over the city. Iran had nothing to do with it. Besides, whenever ISIS faces serious resistance by local population, like in the Shiite city of Amerli, they get their asses whooped every time.

My point isn't how the Iraqi army fell, but the fact that it was defeated on several fronts surprisingly quickly with our regional superpower, Iran barely capable of reacting. Reminds me of Iran and their support for their friend Gaddafi, who despite being confronted by the evil West and the Wahabist, Salafist, Reptilian Islamist Saudi filth, had very little backing.
Iran Backs Libyan Rebels, Chastises West Over Oil, Bahrain | The Iran Primer

 

[Daneshmand]

What would you do?

Because ISIS already did. There were mass graves found by Shiite militias in Bashir of Turkmens killed by ISIS. It was Iran by the way that freed the siege on the Turkmen village of Amerli.

Here you see Iranian general Qassem Suleimani with Turkmen commander Abu Ali:

Here you see Turkmen fighters in Bashir in Kirkuk pictured with Iranian arms:

Iran is going to form a Turkmen force of 10.000 fighters in Iraq:



Iran unveils 'sectarian' card to split Iraqi Turkmen community

Your country did not do anything to help the Turkmens in Iraq. Iran did, and that is why many Turkmens in Iraq have turned to Iran.

Turkmens of Iraq actually begged Erdogan and Turkey to help them. But they were refused. Let alone sending in a Turkish General to liberate them, Turkey was not even interested to send them humanitarian aid. Turkey had wished for their genocide. If it was not for Iran, all the Turkmen today would be in graves. Turkmen will never forget this.

 

[Surenas]

My point isn't how the Iraqi army fell, but the fact that it was defeated on several fronts surprisingly quickly with our regional superpower, Iran barely capable of reacting.

Iranian officers/generals did not lead the Iraqi army at those fronts. I already told you why the Iraqi army collapses. Moreover, Iran did react in a quick way when Mosul fell.Within 48 hours Iranian officers including general Qassem Suleimanu rushed to Baghdad to defend the city, which in the end was saved due to Iranian support.

 

[Daneshmand]

Two completely different topics. Credit for the pathetic attempt at deflection.
It's a known fact that Nouri-al-Maliki was prejudiced against the Sunnis and made sure that it was mostly the Shi'ites who held the greater deal of political power.
If you want to make a comparison, East Pakistan and 1971 is a good place to start.



Give me a break. You can't just dismiss anything which doesn't go along with your deluded world view is propaganda.


Full of nonsense. First of all, this "worry about your state." cheap remark made by the Indians, Chinese and Iranians on this forum is absolutely pathetic. How about you worry about your own state first? Get off this Pakistani Defence Forum and return to your echo boxes where you can swallow the regurgitated propaganda of your fellow Iranians. If you're going to stay on this forum, get used to opposing views and don't resort to cheap remarks like that.

Iran is safe and sound? Please, no jokes. How can Iran be safe when its been at this game of supporting militia groups and warlords all across the Middle East and Central Asia since the 1980s? Of course, Saudi Arabia will eventually be bitten in the *** by their own proxies, but Iran is big, Iran is stronk. Iran never fall. Shia militia groups are fighting in 4 fronts. You will eventually be bitten in the ***, either by the drug traffickers and warlords you support or your enemies.



My point isn't how the Iraqi army fell, but the fact that it was defeated on several fronts surprisingly quickly with our regional superpower, Iran barely capable of reacting. Reminds me of Iran and their support for their friend Gaddafi, who despite being confronted by the evil West and the Wahabist, Salafist, Reptilian Islamist Saudi filth, had very little backing.
Iran Backs Libyan Rebels, Chastises West Over Oil, Bahrain | The Iran Primer

Nori Maliki was an elected leader of Iraq. He did what was necessary to de-bathify Iraq. But you did not answer why your army killing Sunnis is not a bad thing while it is bad in Iraq? You see you are a hypocrite.

Are you denying that Pakistan was getting paid and all the while letting drones take off from its soil and kill Sunnis? Are you kidding yourself? Have you ever heard about Shamsi Base?

In Pakistan as per your own news sources, over 90,000 people have been killed by Takifir idoelogy of yours and this is in addition to thousands of soldiers. Please do not embarrass yourself any more by bringing in this Sunni-Sunni thing.

Pakistan army is killing more Sunnis "dahshatgard" than any other army right now. Day and night blowing up Sunni homes, left and right.

Do read your own newspapers. You hypocrite.

 

[Sunni Falcon]

Baghdad new capital of Iranian empire, proclaims Tehran government adviser

That's why they are commiting an Organised Extermination against Iraqi Sunnis especially in Baghdad and Diyala.

Shia Death Squads.

@Nihonjin1051 Hope you take a look at this.

The lady in the begining of the video mentioning the electric drill on the body of the victims,

The guy who is behind that is : '' Bayan Jabr Solagh '' also called by iraqis : ''wazir ad-drill'' or Drill Minister, he is a former commander of the Badr Brigades (Irani Shia funded/trained militia) , the ''drill campaign'' started under his commendments when he was on top of the MI.

Finally, I am able to post links.

 

[Daneshmand]

That's why they are commiting an Organised Extermination against Iraqi Sunnis especially in Baghdad and Diyala.

Shia Death Squads.

@Nihonjin1051 Hope you take a look at this.

The lady in the begining of the video mentioning the electric drill on the body of the victims,

The guy who is behind that is : '' Bayan Jabr Solagh '' also called by iraqis : ''wazir ad-drill'' or Drill Minister, he is a former commander of the Badr Brigades (Irani Shia funded/trained militia) , the ''drill campaign'' started under his commendments when he was on top of the MI.

Finally, I am able to post links

Propaganda. Surely @Nihonjin1051 must know that Japanese citizens were actually killed by Sunni extremists groups. Trying to show these extremists as victims is nothing more than hypocrisy.

Meanwhile, every one here can see that your behind is on fire because you are jealous of Iran.

 

[Hiptullha]

Nori Maliki was an elected leader of Iraq. He did what was necessary to de-bathify Iraq. But you did not answer why your army killing Sunnis is not a bad thing while it is bad in Iraq? You see you are a hypocrite.

Are you denying that Pakistan was getting paid and all the while letting drones take off from its soil and kill Sunnis? Are you kidding yourself? Have you ever heard about Shamsi Base?

In Pakistan as per your own news sources, over 90,000 people have been killed by Takifir idoelogy of yours and this is in addition to thousands of soldiers. Please do not embarrass yourself any more by bringing in this Sunni-Sunni thing.

Pakistan army is killing more Sunnis "dahshatgard" than any other army right now. Day and night blowing up Sunni homes, left and right.

Do read your own newspapers. You hypocrite.

No, he just undertook in the same petty sectarian policies of the predecessors. Hardly comparable to the Pakistani military fighting an insurgency. You can not hide the fact that his Iraqi government discriminated against Sunnis and prevented them from political representation.

Please do not embarrass myself for pointing out the truth? At the heart of this conflict, there is this sectarian war waged by crackpot Saudi and Iranian mullahs who resent the other sect. Saddam oppressed the Shi'ites, when the Shi'ites came into power, they oppressed the Sunnis for the Saddam years, and when ISIS came into power in parts of Iraq, they oppressed the Shi'ites for a decade of oppression.

Iranian officers/generals did not lead the Iraqi army at those fronts. I already told you why the Iraqi army collapses. Moreover, Iran did react in a quick way when Mosul fell.Within 48 hours Iranian officers including general Qassem Suleimanu rushed to Baghdad to defend the city, which in the end was saved due to Iranian support.

After numerous ISIS gains.