Balance Of Air Power In South Asia

[GURU DUTT]

Procurement of J-20, J-31 and their equivalents would change the current situation. Also there is the option of collaboration with Turkey with regards to producing a 5th-generation fighter jet. With regards to a weak Pakistani economy, those days are coming to an end thanks to CPEC, other programs and economic reforms.

dont forget by then we also would have rafale , F16blk70/72 , LCA MK1A, and PAKFA and possibally AMCA so we are not worried

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

dont forget by then we also would have rafale , F16blk70/72 , LCA MK1A, and PAKFA and possibally AMCA so we are not worried

Worried?????. No one mentioned anything about being concerned or feared. Why mention it All of which could be negated by the extensive advanced SAM systems Pakistan is currently working on. That would be a cost effective way with dealing with enemy jets. Not to mention the fact that Pakistan is looking to make them decentralised and mobile so as to make them difficult to detect and destroy.

 

[GURU DUTT]

All of which could be negated by the extensive advanced SAM systems Pakistan is currently working on. That would be a cost effective way with dealing with enemy jets. Not to mention the fact that Pakistan is looking to make them decentralised and mobile so as to make them difficult to detect and destroy.

looks like kid you dont have any idea about air defnce or anty air defnce EW-ECM or jammers on latest gen fighters like Su30 MKI -F16s or Rafale

but any way what do u know about the power of detection on airborne radars and there electronik countermeasures and other DATALINK capabilities with ground command and what do you know about air defnce netweorks of india

no air force can stop a biger air force just by defncive shields alone like SAMs or radars as no matter how good they are they can be taken out if you dont have a mighty offnsive support armament read about SEAD & DEAD

but then i know as a muhib e wattan mard e momin how can you aknoledge power of a non muslim nation so keep dreaming what you are always made to sannu ki

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

looks like kid you dont have any idea about air defnce or anty air defnce EW-ECM or jammers on latest gen fighters like Su30 MKI -F16s or Rafale

but any way what do u know about the power of detection on airborne radars and there electronik countermeasures and other DATALINK capabilities with ground command and what do you know about air defnce netweorks of india

no air force can stop a biger air force just by defncive shields alone like SAMs or radars as no matter how good they are they can be taken out if you dont have a mighty offnsive support armament read about SEAD & DEAD

but then i know as a muhib e wattan mard e momin how can you aknoledge power of a non muslim nation so keep dreaming what you are always made to sannu ki

Which is why Pakistan is focused on making our SAM systems extensive, decentralised & mobile.

You guys also said the same thing with regards to Pakistan becoming a nuclear weapons state yet you indians were completely wrong about that. Just as then, so is now.

Kid???????????........Not really. It's you're kind that are "lesser men" not mine :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6161691.stm

Pakistan would not just rely on our extensive, advanced SAM systems to curtail a massive indian aerial assault. It would involve our airforce and other means too. Which the indian military high command know will be effective. This is why india was powerless to launch a full scale military attack against Pakistan after mumbai 2008

 

[GURU DUTT]

You guys also said the same thing with regards to Pakistan becoming a nuclear weapons state yet you indians were completely wrong about that. Just as then, so is now.

Kid???????????........Not really. It's you're kind that are "lesser men" not mine :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6161691.stm

well you became so called neuclear power cause US looked the other way when you gathered neuclear tech from diffrent sources round the world cause USA neded you for jihad against USSR and saudies funded it and thats history but no one talks about it but does it matter now

same applies to so called "balance of air power in Asia" and no matter what PAF would never dare to challenge IAF till it has a signal of support from PLAAF and thats all about so called "balance" but here no one dare to talk truth as it is bitter and cold and every one is trying to sugar coat to caress his false sense of muhib e watani which actually knows what is the ground reality

and one more thing we dint attack in 2008 as for us development was more important than revenge and war cause we give more respect to life on earth and development

 

[$@rJen]

Procurement of J-20, J-31 and their equivalents would change the current situation. Also there is the option of collaboration with Turkey with regards to producing a 5th-generation fighter jet. With regards to a weak Pakistani economy, those days are coming to an end thanks to CPEC, other programs and economic reforms.

J20..big lol on it... its banned from exports... and stop saying anything china has will be given to pakistan.. you're blinded.

You'll get j31 but ur economy won't support big numbers..

CPEC is not going to make you economic power... stop overestimateing it... in time you'll realize it.

Which is why Pakistan is focused on making our SAM systems extensive, decentralised & mobile.

You guys also said the same thing with regards to Pakistan becoming a nuclear weapons state yet you indians were completely wrong about that. Just as then, so is now.

Kid???????????........Not really. It's you're kind that are "lesser men" not mine :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6161691.stm

Pakistan would not just rely on our extensive, advanced SAM systems to curtail a massive indian aerial assault. It would involve our airforce and other means too. Which the indian military high command know will be effective. This is why india was powerless to launch a full scale military attack against Pakistan after mumbai 2008

How many days and how many times you're going to use the same sentance about becoming nuclear state for every counter quotes!??? There's a bloody difference in both issues.

Lol... didn't they teach you size is not a matter when it comes to sex!???!

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

well you became so called neuclear power cause US looked the other way when you gathered neuclear tech from diffrent sources round the world cause USA neded you for jihad against USSR and saudies funded it and thats history but no one talks about it but does it matter now

same apples to so calle "balance of air power in Asia" and no matter what PAF would never dare to challenge IAF till it has a signal of support from PLAAF and thasts all about so called "balance" but here no one dare to talk truth as it is bitter and cold and every one is trying to sugar coat to caress his false sense of muhib e watani which actually knows what is the ground reality

Again, more indian delusions. Pakistan gathered nuclear technology Wheras the indians didn't. indians invented, pioneered, designed and built 100% indigenously nuclear weapons and technology. Which they then transferred to the americans to use against Japan during WW2.

The PAF has repelled many attacks by the iaf which indians don't want to accept. You are the ones that are sugar-coating the fact that the iaf can do nothing to Pakistan even though you are at least 7× bigger than Pakistan and have abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege That is a bitter pill for the indian kind to swallow

 

[The Eagle]

R&D sirji gustakhee mauf ho but PAF was never a defnsive force in any of its previous wars till 1980s when US sanctions came hard after end of afghan jihad deu to neuclear plofration issues on pakistan and later the neuklear tests which we both know are smoke screens

point is till PAF had US support in 1960s-1970s-1980s PAF was a offensive force like on lines or IsAF but now its on defensive as niether its got US/NATO support nor its main opponent is that militarrily and economically waek ... am i wrong saeen ji

A bit of different opinion from my side. Weapons are for Defence and not to go offensive or a threat for anyone. Just see Indian weapon procurement and PAF has been doing all to counter.

In the past, though, front liners were available as the cold war was at different level but as the purpose served, indeed I would have many reasons to be angry with you even if your phone ring tone is a bit louder contrary to the louder music you have been playing before.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

J20..big lol on it... its banned from exports... and stop saying anything china has will be given to pakistan.. you're blinded.

You'll get j31 but ur economy won't support big numbers..

CPEC is not going to make you economic power... stop overestimateing it... in time you'll realize it.



How many days and how many times you're going to use the same sentance about becoming nuclear state for every counter quotes!??? There's a bloody difference in both issues.

Lol... didn't they teach you size is not a matter when it comes to sex!???!

indians said that China would not transfer nuclear technology to Pakistan for it to become a nuclear weapons state. That it was not allowed to. That the entire West would stop it. We know how that ended up.

CPEC has ALREADY massively helped the Pakistan economy. I know this because I just came back from holiday in Pakistan a few months ago and know the ground REALITY. All over Pakistan, there are massive world-class industrial and infrastructure projects going on that were deemed impossible just 2 years ago. That is unprecedented in our entire history.

As far as sex is concerned, indians are the "lesser men" out of all the races of men :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6161691.stm

PS it doesn't matter how many times I use the Pakistan nuclear weapons example. The truth is the truth. And indian delusions, propaganda, false information and lies need to be exposed each and every time. Especially since the indian media is the most dishonest, corrupt, deceitful, false and biased media in the whole world.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

The first MiG 21s were not in regular squadron service even in 1965; they were not flown. Vampires were flown. Check your records.

Taking delivery takes time...Then why was India dumb to put them on forward basis? Be brave and take it as a failure.

The planes bought from the UK, Hawker Hunters and Canberras, were bought against cash, not on soft terms or on outright grant, like the US for Pakistan.

If India missed a trick... Blame it on Pakistan as it was her fault.

There was no attempt to get anything from the UK, because SEATO and CENTO had got down to even informing the PA how to organise its divisions. We needed to buy WWII leftovers, because we were buying. You were not.

Another failure on part of India. Shows immaturity of Indian Air Force.

India was not in a bargaining position on SEATO and CENTO as it was very clear that once India became friends with USSR it was heading towards Communism as perceived by the West. The only reason USA did not go to war with India was it was still under the influence of British Administration.

If you were there then you should have known this fact.

Now go and take a hike.

 

[$@rJen]

indians said that China would not transfer nuclear technology to Pakistan for it to become a nuclear weapons state. That it was not allowed. That the entire West would stop it. We know how that ended up

Lol... somebody secretly selling tech is the news here... even we got the tech from russia, france and canada.... did it stopped us from becoming a nuclear state!???
And when did we say pakistan would not become a nuclear state!???

CPEC has ALREADY massively helped the Pakistan economy. I know because I just came back from holiday in Pakistan a few months ago and know the ground REALITY. All over Pakistan, there are massive world-class industrial and infrastructure projects going on that were deemed impossible just 2 years ago. That is unprecedented in our entire history.

Lol...tell me how it has helped massively? ?! Just last week there's a report of around 10 billion loss in 4 years.. you're still not able to pay the interests and your savings is 35 or 30 billion..bd which came in existence in 71 does better.
World class industry in pakistan..and everywhere! ?? Have you seen that hollywood movie where 2 american journos go to execute kim! ! And how kim will make a supermarket and fruits in plastic to show they're having everything that west has!!!

As far as sex is concerned, indians are the "lesser men" out of all the races of men :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6161691.stm

PS it doesn't matter how many times I use the Pakistan nuclear weapons example. The truth is the truth. And indian delusions, propaganda, false information and lies need to be exposed each and every time. Especially since the indian media is the most dishonest, corrupt, deceitful, false and biased media in the whole world.

Lol kiddo... we wrote the book of love which is available in every coener of the world.. we did teach you how to make love... go to local store it'll be avilable in urdu too..learn from it and become superior person in performance in bed kid..

FYI you're now abusing your higher than mountain friend with dick measuring competition. .h aaha ha aha..

Lol.. you people are talking about propaganda!!!haha ajab ah funny guy

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Lol... somebody secretly selling tech is the news here... even we got the tech from russia, france and canada.... did it stopped us from becoming a nuclear state!???
And when did we say pakistan would not become a nuclear state!???



Lol...tell me how it has helped massively? ?! Just last week there's a report of around 10 billion loss in 4 years.. you're still not able to pay the interests and your savings is 35 or 30 billion..bd which came in existence in 71 does better.
World class industry in pakistan..and everywhere! ?? Have you seen that hollywood movie where 2 american journos go to execute kim! ! And how kim will make a supermarket and fruits in plastic to show they're having everything that west has!!!



Lol kiddo... we wrote the book of love which is available in every coener of the world.. we did teach you how to make love... go to local store it'll be avilable in urdu too..learn from it and become superior person in performance in bed kid..

FYI you're now abusing your higher than mountain friend with dick measuring competition. .h aaha ha aha..

Lol.. you people are talking about propaganda!!!haha ajab ah funny guy

CPEC has helped massively. Contrary to media reports and the opinions of foreigners. For a start the infrastructure in Pakistan has improved more in 2 years than probably in the past 30 years before that. More people have jobs and there is more factories and other industries around which there wasn't in the past. There also seems to be building work going on all around Pakistan. That is the ground reality. Not some article from the worst media outlet in the entire world. Not accepting this fact means nothing to us.

Pre-May 1998 the entire indian establishment (apart from the elite of the indian military high command) were saying that it was impossible for Pakistan to ever become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance. That the West would stop it. And the idea of Pakistan becoming a nuclear weapons state was delusional. Some indian politicians even suggest nuking Pakistan after india's tests in 1998. As this would solve India's problems once and for all. And that Pakistan would not be able to respond or fight back.

The irony of you calling me kiddo and talking about indian sex stories is ridiculous and laughable since it is a scientific fact that out of all the races of men, indian men are the smallest and most "lesser men" of all
You compensate this "shortage" by excessive sex stories:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6161691.stm

So before indian sex stories arrived, no one in the whole world had ever had sex before or made love??????.?...

The above link is the reason you have so many frustrated indians on PDF, coming here and spewing their hatred and venom against Pakistan

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

LOL.

Make up your mind.

Do you know where those captives who died came from? If Pakistan had existed then, the Hindukush would have had a different name.Oh, but wait.....according to your scholastic geniuses, Pakistan always existed; it's just that its name was 'occluded', and none but the initiated knew about it! so now we know why Hindukush.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Taking delivery takes time...Then why was India dumb to put them on forward basis? Be brave and take it as a failure.

LOL. Because India was not planning a war! It was Ayub, misled by - who else? - Bhutto who was, and the end result saddened him and broke his dictatorship. So there was no question of putting in MiGs to meet the Pakistani attacks, because no one in India thought that Pakistan wanted to fight a war.

If India missed a trick... Blame it on Pakistan as it was her fault.

No tricks. Pakistan decided to join, to achieve a parity that was never there, but was created by sycophantic behaviour. You are not old enough to remember, so ask your elders; the slogan was that three A's ruled Pakistan: Allah, Army and Amrika. That's all that you were, appendages.

Another failure on part of India. Shows immaturity of Indian Air Force.

Failure?

Not to sell out is a failure?

Thank Heavens for that. Thank Heavens that we did not go onto our knees to try and fool the world that we were what we could never be.

India was not in a bargaining position on SEATO and CENTO as it was very clear that once India became friends with USSR it was heading towards Communism as perceived by the West. The only reason USA did not go to war with India was it was still under the influence of British Administration.

You are thunderously ignorant. Pakistan joined SEATO and CENTO decades before India signed a mutual defensive pact with Russia, in 1971. Until then, the US

1. Asked India to take a seat in the UN: India refused;
2. Sent arms and ammunition to India in 1962, and asked in return that she join the pacts; India refused;
3. Bent over backwards to entice India into her camp; India refused;
4. Spent millions on arming Pakistan, against written guarantees that those arms and ammunition would not be misused, and watched Pakistan do exactly what she had committed not to do.

If you were there then you should have known this fact.

Now go and take a hike.

Of course. When you have nothing to say, that is the best answer.

The fact is that you still make aggressive moves, depending on the reluctance of India to go to war and destroy an economy growing at 7%. Not surprising, since you have nothing to lose if hostilities break out; your reputation couldn't possibly sink lower. We have a lot to lose, so we have always been reluctant sword-rattlers. And you think that you are brave. You aren't; you just have nothing else to do. On the economics front, your lottery ticket is the CPEC. If it fails, what do you do for an encore?

 

[My-Analogous]

Kiddo.... go back to the history... india never begun a war with pakistan... it was pakistan who always were the aggressor.. so what makes u think India will attack Pakistan!!! Even during the 71 war we didn't invade pakistan occupied kshmir... and there's no such plan for one bharat or whatever you're taught to hate india... that might be a fantasy of some old hinduwata fool.. not the gov of India's plan.

Now having said that.. you want kashmir so badly you initiated all the wars.... but why are you guys are not trying that again??? Is it because you've come to ur senses that you could never accomplish your objectives militarily against india!???

FYI
The answer is YES

Kid that is your wet dream and Pakistan is still going on and on and become more strong day by day and your objective is still not achieve and never will. So Your big YES is for your BIG ZERO and next time your address to any sr. member, always do it with our manners not some Indian manner which will already familiar with. now go a sleep with dreamz about united bharat mata and when you wake up feel the reality called PAKISTAN