Azerbaijan supports Saudi-led operation

[Azeri440]

same there to u.. a bigger fool who cannot see reality of massive unemployment, poverty, corruption, embezzlement by the leeches installed at the top and oppression at a massive scale believing the propaganda thrown out by AzTV and crony press. hey, continue to live in fool's paradise ignorant of reality. this is just one of the 'STANS' where old KGB stooges are still lurking around pushing their thumbs down against the masses.
Iran is correct, Azeraijan is a confused personality who is try to be European but is an asian. If it was not for the Soviets breakup, it would still be part of Iran and who knows it might be later on. There are more Azeri speakers in Iran than Azerbaijan.
In a grand scheme of things, a tiny player which will fall in a day if oppression is lifted and the falsified sham elections are done away with.

actually you are still the fool , please go check what Azerbaijan was like in 2005 and compare it a decade later

Azerbaijan had 50%+ unemployment rate which now is 6%, Azerbaijan's economy had a total GDP of 15 billion while now it is 6-7 times higher than that, and lastly Azerbaijan's GDP per capita is now higher than the hell hole you come from.
and I know the reality but seeing as I have lived in Azerbaijan myself and all my family members still live there , I think I know more what's going on in my country than you do. Continue with your BS while we keep developing.

 

[bozorgmehr]

Azarbaijan can do whatever the hell they bloody please. They just need to think ahead if they're willing to pay the price of their actions. When they were released from the soviet union everybody was giddy in Iran, thinking we've found a long lost brother. Little did we know they've been infected with this pan-racist disease, of a race that's not even their own. They started talking about breaking up Iran and engaging in aggressive diatribes against Iran and Iranians, before they could even walk. We know next what happened to these tough talking mighty warlord turkic warriors. So I don't have high expectations of rational and reasoned behavior from them. I just hope they've learned their lessons from the past and will think twice before giving in to idiocy.

Overall we live in a very backward and culturally retrograde region, where discarded 18th century European pan-racial ideologies are still all the rage. First it was the Turks with pan-turkism. Then Arabs learned from them. And now we are dealing with Pan-kurdish natioanlism.

All of them are garbage. All of them are based on myths and lies and built on victimizing others. These ideologies are not stable. They believe in a zero-sum outcome. They believe in getting ahead at the expense of others. So Arabs and Turks may cooperate today, but it won't last very long. They will be cutting each other's head off, the first chance they get.

As far as Iran goes, I'm afraid there's not much reasoning to be done with our lovely neighbors. It's still gonna be a very long time before the people of the region grow and mature. In the meantime, we just have to be strong enough to kick their teeth in, if they get too worked up, like they did when they attacked us before.

 

[denel]

actually you are still the fool , please go check what Azerbaijan was like in 2005 and compare it a decade later

Azerbaijan had 50%+ unemployment rate which now is 6%, Azerbaijan's economy had a total GDP of 15 billion while now it is 6-7 times higher than that, and lastly Azerbaijan's GDP per capita is now higher than the hell hole you come from.
and I know the reality but seeing as I have lived in Azerbaijan myself and all my family members still live there , I think I know more what's going on in my country than you do. Continue with your BS while we keep developing.

Too bad.. i was there 5 months ago...
you are developing only the fat cats at the top. 85% of Baku's population lives hand to mouth. Go to Sumgiyat and other out lying places and see the reality; either your family has connections at the top level and hence you are not living in reality. 6% unemployment... what figures are u reading. most young men and women i met all told me either you have to pay a bribe to get work and even then it is filled with nepotism. It seemed the most employed department is the police who are literally everywhere and the idiot aliey's photos all over the place. His wife cant even smile from the over plastic surgery. Anyone who says anything is hushed away. Sooner or later they will crumble and people will make them account for their excesses.
Only development is fattening bank accounts and naxivanis hording up the money and pushing others down.

Azarbaijan can do whatever the hell they bloody please. They just need to think ahead if they're willing to pay the price of their actions. When they were released from the soviet union everybody was giddy in Iran, thinking we've found a long lost brother. Little did we know they've been infected with this pan-racist disease, of a race that's not even their own. They started talking about breaking up Iran and engaging in aggressive diatribes against Iran and Iranians, before they could even walk. We know next what happened to these tough talking mighty warlord turkic warriors. So I don't have high expectations of rational and reasoned behavior from them. I just hope they've learned their lessons from the past and will think twice before giving in to idiocy.

Overall we live in a very backward and culturally retrograde region, where discarded 18th century European pan-racial ideologies are still all the rage. First it was the Turks with pan-turkism. Then Arabs learned from them. And now we are dealing with Pan-kurdish natioanlism.

All of them are garbage. All of them are based on myths and lies and built on victimizing others. These ideologies are not stable. They believe in a zero-sum outcome. They believe in getting ahead at the expense of others. So Arabs and Turks may cooperate today, but it won't last very long. They will be cutting each other's head off, the first chance they get.

As far as Iran goes, I'm afraid there's not much reasoning to be done with our lovely neighbors. It's still gonna be a very long time before the people of the region grow and mature. In the meantime, we just have to be strong enough to kick their teeth in, if they get too worked up, like they did when they attacked us before.

Very well said... an inferior complex and no sense of who they are but rather wanting to be someone without knowing themselves.
I must say that the museam in Baku is filled with excellent historical relics - a pity most dont even want to know their history as they have been brainwashed by the soviets, then the alieys into an illusive 'European' identity. Neither their language nor culture has any connections to the Europeans but rather into the east.

 

[Azeri440]

Too bad.. i was there 5 months ago...
you are developing only the fat cats at the top. 85% of Baku's population lives hand to mouth. Go to Sumgiyat and other out lying places and see the reality; either your family has connections at the top level and hence you are not living in reality. 6% unemployment... what figures are u reading. most young men and women i met all told me either you have to pay a bribe to get work and even then it is filled with nepotism. It seemed the most employed department is the police who are literally everywhere and the idiot aliey's photos all over the place. His wife cant even smile from the over plastic surgery. Anyone who says anything is hushed away. Sooner or later they will crumble and people will make them account for their excesses.
Only development is fattening bank accounts and naxivanis hording up the money and pushing others down.

you are as ignorant as one can be

yes Azerbaijan is 3rd world country having a higher GDP per capita than the hell hole you come from, I am sure you were very proud when your country decided to host World Cup having such an economy right?
Azerbaijan went from one of the worst economies in the region to one of the strongest , We are obviously not developed but developing at a rate you will never see happen in your country. Yes 6% unemployment , I can name you one single project in Azerbaijan alone that is creating 50000 jobs. I am sure you think your South Africa is a European developed country while others live like Africans. Anyway keep living in your bubble.

 

[denel]

you are as ignorant as one can be

yes Azerbaijan is 3rd world country having a higher GDP per capita than the hell hole you come from, I am sure you were very proud when your country decided to host World Cup having such an economy right?
Azerbaijan went from one of the worst economies in the region to one of the strongest , We are obviously not developed but developing at a rate you will never see happen in your country. Yes 6% unemployment , I can name you one single project in Azerbaijan alone that is creating 50000 jobs. I am sure you think your South Africa is a European developed country while others live like Africans. Anyway keep living in your bubble.

Really... We have problems and challenges like any other country. We have an industrial and mining base which is first world and issues of third world.
Oil is the sole backbone of Azerbaijan. I am pointing out the political scorpion and his family which are soffocating your country. His family are having a foot and mouth in every enterprise.. you call that an economy. If you have such a great GDP why are teachers in Azerbaijan paid around 120$/month... vs 7mil$/month for the cosmetics of Aliey's wife. Man, leaches. The morons have homes all over the french riviera and yet have you walked in Baku outskirts and seen the poverty? Man, you really dont live an ordinary live do you.
Corruption is everywhere right from the airport to regular govt office - like cockroaches your govt has sucked every penny out of its population and terrorised them into silence. Truth is always hard but wake up and see reality on the ground.

 

[Kamil_baku]

I don't see Azerbaijan just attacking willy nilly. The country is now fully integrated in the world economy, it has many energy contracts and other trade ties. That in an of it's own will make unilateral military action a lot more difficult. I think the only solution is a political one, brokered perhaps by the UN or the region's powers. Anyway, I see the military buildup as part of that negotiation. Besides, sadly as with many things in the Muslim world, any war woudn't be one on one.

At the end, it's going to be a brokered solution, not war. And please refrain from foul mouthing Iran. No need for that. Thanks.



Dear friend. First of all, you're getting many things wrong here. Baluchis are killing BOTH sides, Pak and IR. It's not like they're stooges from Pakistan, they want independence from both.
Second, there are more Azeris living in Iran, than in Azerbaijan, more than twice actually. And none of them speak of any 'unification', that's just some wet dream. If anything, they'd be unified within Iran.
Thirdly, Iran can 'entice' the Shia minority in Bahrain and Saudi and the Houthis in Yemen 10 times quicker before any Iranian internal disorder. Know the facts.
And finally, we're just talking proxy wars in the region. PROXY. Nobody is even remotely talking about bringing down any of the big countries, which would destabilize the entire region and F energy supplies for decades. Time to grow up and read some books.

Besides, before too long, borders will become irrelevant anyway. Look at Europe. Traveling without visa, cross border investments etc. People need to enlighten themselves and understand this isn't the 1800s anymore. Nationalism is on the out.

There are 35 million Azerbaijani living in Iran, and they have problem with farsi people. If you visit Tabriz and speak farsi with taxi driver or anybody else, they will simply not be nice with you..

Soccer team in Iran, from Tebriz. this tells a lot about the patriotism there,, Iran will lose a lot, if Azerbaijan start to finance them or go against Iran. especially when those people visit baku, they see the price of being independent. thats why they want to make it union..

 

[bozorgmehr]

There are 35 million Azerbaijani living in Iran, and they have problem with farsi people. If you visit Tabriz and speak farsi with taxi driver or anybody else, they will simply not be nice with you..

Soccer team in Iran, from Tebriz. this tells a lot about the patriotism there,, Iran will lose a lot, if Azerbaijan start to finance them or go against Iran. especially when those people visit baku, they see the price of being independent. thats why they want to make it union..

So you spoke Farsi with a Taxi driver the last time you were in Tabriz?

And no, you were misinformed, there are 100 million Azaris in Iran... You guys are just too disconnected from reality. No wonder you don't get anywhere.

And what's wrong with saying Yashasin Azarbaijan? I'd say it. The real Azarbaijan is south of the Aras river and has always been and will always be part of Iran. Anything above has historically been referred to as Aran.

You guys are just too funny... keep up your tough talk and bravado, see where it'll land you again....

 

[IR-TR]

Bunlarin nesline nehlet olsun! Azebaycan xalqinin en boyuk dushmedi bu dinsiz imansizlar.

Tabi, Azeriler Iranin en yuksek

There are 35 million Azerbaijani living in Iran, and they have problem with farsi people. If you visit Tabriz and speak farsi with taxi driver or anybody else, they will simply not be nice with you..

Soccer team in Iran, from Tebriz. this tells a lot about the patriotism there,, Iran will lose a lot, if Azerbaijan start to finance them or go against Iran. especially when those people visit baku, they see the price of being independent. thats why they want to make it union..

No, there are 100 BILLION Azeris living in Iran. Stop exaggerating. Come one with this pan turkish BS. There are a bit north of 20 million, I also have Azeri family members. They only see themselves as Iranian, nothing else. If anything, Turkey is a nice place for them to visit and own summer homes. Dear, quoting a few hooligans in a soccer field isn't much evidence of anything. Only that the lowest forms of society are indeed incapable of thinking. Look at European soccer fans with swastikas and what not. The one thing I hate about turkic people, is their dreams of grandeur and pan-Turkism. Honestly, my mom is a blue eyed blonde from Western Turkey. WTF does she have to do with those chinks from Central Asia? Nothing. And I'm saying that as a half Turk. A Turk can't even understand more than half an Azeri says. (chinks as in the original turks, not azeri people).

Besides, Azeris are over represented in the highest levels of Iranian government, business and academia. It's not like they're foreigners living in Iran. They pretty much run very important parts of it. Yes, let's give that up to be part of a corrupt dictators flourishing on oil money. Nah. Anyway, I don't want to fight around here. I respect you as an Azeri, it's just that separatism thing I don't like. Thanks for understanding.

 

[Belew_Kelew]

Dear friend. First of all, you're getting many things wrong here. Baluchis are killing BOTH sides, Pak and IR. It's not like they're stooges from Pakistan, they want independence from both.
Second, there are more Azeris living in Iran, than in Azerbaijan, more than twice actually. And none of them speak of any 'unification', that's just some wet dream. If anything, they'd be unified within Iran.
Thirdly, Iran can 'entice' the Shia minority in Bahrain and Saudi and the Houthis in Yemen 10 times quicker before any Iranian internal disorder. Know the facts.
And finally, we're just talking proxy wars in the region. PROXY. Nobody is even remotely talking about bringing down any of the big countries, which would destabilize the entire region and F energy supplies for decades. Time to grow up and read some books.

Besides, before too long, borders will become irrelevant anyway. Look at Europe. Traveling without visa, cross border investments etc. People need to enlighten themselves and understand this isn't the 1800s anymore. Nationalism is on the out.

Baluchi are treated better in pakistan than in Iran, beside Baluchistan in pakistan apparently holds the biggest gas reserve in the world. Baluch might want independece in the long run but in the short term they would lure the balush in iran into at least starting the call for independence from Iran and causing unrest.

There are more than 26 million azeri in iran, and from the few i met over the years they hate Iran and feel closer to turks even though one is sunni and the other is shia. The persian only show their romance towards the azeri in iran for the sake of national unity but everyone knows the rift between them, infact persians have bad relation with all it's ethnic minorities within iran.

Iran might entice the shia in bahrian or yemen quicker than say the other way around towards inside iran, but the effect is different. Like we see now Iran is powerless in yemen to interfere and all they talking about is peace talks. As we saw in bahrian when the gulf shield entered bahrian again iran was useless of following up it's proxy flare up.

Proxy is the easiest way to bring big countries you can't have confrontation between 2 big countries the norm is done through proxy and internal domestic upheaval. Maybe you should read a book or two start with the fall of the U.S.S.R this is a blueprint of how you bring a big country down.

 

[Belew_Kelew]

Iran has been around a lot longer than the USSR. Not comparable. And Iran can't do much in Bahrain and Yemen, because it's power projection capabilities have been diminished because of sanctions. And big brother US would help. Otherwise we'd have Iranians in Riyadh within two days. Regardless of F15 or not.
About Azeris, well there really is no point in arguing about it. Some say A some say B. There isn't a lot that will change any time soon. Same for the Baluchis, which kill people in Pakistan and Yemen, just a while ago 20 workers were killed in their sleep in Pakistan. That will be taken care of in tag team fashion. There won't be any changes in territorial integrity, otherwise the whole middle eastern map will have to change. Including Saudi Arabia. Let's see those camel riding princes without the Shia oil regions.


Well, the whole region has each other by the balls. Not really much to add I must say.

Iran wasn't Iran but persia in the old times, Iran now are composed of 60% Non persians. Iran weakness has always been the same, persians are known to be masters of having others fight for them and every time they were defeated it was mainly because their proxy changed side against them and/or they had to fight directly which they couldn't sustain or they not really good at. Speaking at having Iranian in riyadh in two days i think Irani would be defeated way before leaving it's territory.

Baluchistan is pakistan is much better than their side in Iran, don't forget how much baluch people hate persians something that you can't even deny. The territorial integrity of KSA is insured by 99% of the 1.7 Billion sunni around the world. No Bluffs when it comes to the security of the KSA with mecca and medina to even think attacking KSA is like yemen or syria trust me iran would be wiped out in no time it's a strictly a red line for anyone in the world.

Shia are not even close to 5% of the whole eastern province in KSA and less than 1% of the total population on KSA, i have been there there are 100,000 or so in qatif and few villages in the surrounding area's. To give an indication one of the many sunni tribes there al-dowsri are more than 1 million and there are many other sunni tribes. To call eastern KSA shia is straight out non sense only believed by people who don't know the demographics or plain fools.

 

[bozorgmehr]

Iran wasn't Iran but persia in the old times, Iran now are composed of 60% Non persians. Iran weakness has always been the same, persians are known to be masters of having others fight for them and every time they were defeated it was mainly because their proxy changed side against them and/or they had to fight directly which they couldn't sustain or they not really good at. Speaking at having Iranian in riyadh in two days i think Irani would be defeated way before leaving it's territory.

Baluchistan is pakistan is much better than their side in Iran, don't forget how much baluch people hate persians something that you can't even deny. The territorial integrity of KSA is insured by 99% of the 1.7 Billion sunni around the world. No Bluffs when it comes to the security of the KSA with mecca and medina to even think attacking KSA is like yemen or syria trust me iran would be wiped out in no time it's a strictly a red line for anyone in the world.

Shia are not even close to 5% of the whole eastern province in KSA and less than 1% of the total population on KSA, i have been there there are 100,000 or so in qatif and few villages in the surrounding area's. To give an indication one of the many sunni tribes there al-dowsri are more than 1 million and there are many other sunni tribes. To call eastern KSA shia is straight out non sense only believed by people who don't know the demographics or plain fools.

Stop talking out of your *** man! Iran was Persia before, Iranian Azaris hate other Iranians, Pakistani Baluchestan is much better than the Iranian one, Shias are only 5% of eastern Saudi Arabia... what's your point with all this nonsense? You're some kind of Eritrean salafist? If you hate shias or wanna bash Iranians just come out with it. Don't need to resort to bullshit facts to justify it.

 

[Serpentine]

Stop talking out of your *** man! Iran was Persia before, Iranian Azaris hate other Iranians, Pakistani Baluchestan is much better than the Iranian one, Shias are only 5% of eastern Saudi Arabia... what's your point with all this nonsense? You're some kind of Eritrean salafist? If you hate shias or wanna bash Iranians just come out with it. Don't need to resort to bullshit facts to justify it.

Just ignore him. Some matters are not worthy to spend your time on.

Funny how this thread ended up as Iran vs Azerbaijan playground. Trolls know their game.

 

[Belew_Kelew]

Stop talking out of your *** man! Iran was Persia before, Iranian Azaris hate other Iranians, Pakistani Baluchestan is much better than the Iranian one, Shias are only 5% of eastern Saudi Arabia... what's your point with all this nonsense? You're some kind of Eritrean salafist? If you hate shias or wanna bash Iranians just come out with it. Don't need to resort to bullshit facts to justify it.

No need to get mad. I am a straight shooter so i tell it how i see it. If you like to talk about holding hands and singing Kumbaya try your fellow Shia here. I don't hate Shia i simply just don't care about them they are irrelevant to me they only pop into my radar when they start talking silly in here or they try to get personal when someone want to check the validity of their facts.

 

[bozorgmehr]

No need to get mad. I am a straight shooter so i tell it how i see it. If you like to talk about holding hands and singing Kumbaya try your fellow Shia here. I don't hate Shia i simply just don't care about them they are irrelevant to me they only pop into my radar when they start talking silly in here or they try to get personal when someone want to check the validity of their facts.

Believe me it's a relief to hear we're irrelevant to you! And to put your mind at ease, I could give a fart about you and your ilk as well. But for somebody who doesn't care, you seem to have spent a lot of time gathering bullsh!t 'facts' to justify your ideology. All I'm saying is forego the bullsh!t and stick to the ideology. Because when you resort to bullsh!t facts, you open yourself to being considered stupid as well as crazy. Whereas I would always prefer to be crazy instead of stupid. Because as you may well know, crazy may be cured. But there ain't much that can be done for stupid...

 

[xenon54 out]

A Turk can't even understand more than half an Azeri says.

I dont know how good your Turkish is but i pretty much understand 80-90% of Azeri, its almost identical language just another dialect.