Good post.
I have been amazed by the wild celebrations in Azerbaijan. Indeed Armenia is humiliated but I will be very surprised if AZE is going to get all of its legit land back. As we all know by now... AZE would have taken back ALL of N-K and all the AZE land under the Armenian control within weeks, if not days, had this 'peace deal' not reached!
Truth be told-- while ARM is humiliated they still haven't lost their own territory while AZE still doesn't have all of its back and now Russia is there with potentially dubious intentions.
But then shooting down of the Russian heli by AZE inside ARM would have been a perfect excuse for Russia to flex its muscle.
In Azerbaijan they are celebrating probably because they dont have to send their kids to die anymore, And they get back a good deal of territory. Anyone that is capable of doing any sort of analysis would not be celebrating knowing that they were days/weeks away from total victory. As this true of events just confirms that smaller countries are in very little control of their destiny.
Another reason Aze are celebrating is that they are probably uninformed. and dont understand the full consequences of having a russian "peacekeeping" force on your land.
As a Bosnian, I understand these things all too well and I wanted my Azeri brothers to avoid these painful compromises that we have had to endure for 25 years now. Nation building with politicians that organised death camps and rape camps, being pulled over by serbian policeman who only 25 years ago massacred whole families, raped and killed children. Its pretty disgusting and huge price to pay to have a country in unchanged borders. I really wanted Azeris to avoid this by kicking these monsters out of their lands, who did the same things to Azeri civilians earlier.
So when we had our peace with the serbs, no-one celebrated, we ket all our land and had our own country, and we were severely outgunned.
So now I see Azeris who have actually outgunned the Armenians, having to swallow a compromise like this is pretty annoying. And anyone screaming total victory, knowing that you've got back 65% of your land and that 35% you will never get back, well, it just sounds delusional to me.
And for telling easily verifiable facts, I am accuse of being demented and having multiple accounts.
Instead of insulting me, forum members should show me a map that is accurate. tell me what NK towns AZE are going to keep. its pretty simple. I have a list of all the villages and towns taken by AZE forces. Aliyev made them public. its 10-15% of NK.
Russia is not threat to Azerbaijan security because Azerbaijan has defense treaty with Turkey. So for Russia to cause complications for Azerbaijan would cause major war in the region and Russia has nothing to gain from such war and would never pursue that for such a small price and they clearly don't have interest in the territory whatsoever. This is what you failed to understand? But your Austin Powers after all.
If russia has no interest in the land, why did it force AZE to sign the treaty and send its own troops?
russia has no interest on ukranian land also? moldovan land? its troops are all there. By protecting lands that armenia has stolen, russia keeps total control and dependency over Armenia.
Russia sent troops to moldova with an agreement to stay for 1 Year. when the year finished, the locals protested (50 of them) and prevented russian army from getting on the trains back to russia. So russia stayed for 20 years and is thill there.
Why would russia cause a war with AZE? Russia has legally occupied AZE lands and has peacekeepers there. They aren't hurting anyone. just keeping peace. If they are asked to leave, they aren't going anywhere. Because it will mean another war. AZE won't attack them because they are not suicidal.
Please explain to me where I am wrong? I want to learn from you.
As for Azerbaijan's long-lasting sovereignty it has never been under any sort of threat since it has a defense treaty with Turkey and any war that is waged on Azerbaijan would be equally to attacking proper Turkey since why they have complete impunity and sovereignty in the region..
Well Armenia bombards AZE cities and AZE can not attack Armenian cities. So its not the same as attacking turkey proper. If an Armenian Iskander missile destroyed an apartment complex in a Turkish city, that would be the end of Armenia. So its not quite the same.
Azerbaijan does not have any sovereignty over ~3900 sq km of its own land. so to say it has complete sovereignty would not be accurate. perhaps I am wrong, maybe AZE army and police can go to Martakert and arrest someone? but I don think so.
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