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[MMM-E]

Armenia will not return NK to Azerbaijan unless Azerbaijan returns Artsvashen back to Armenia.

Azerbaijan Armed Forces will liberate whole occupied territory of Azerbaijan and Armenia has no power to match with Azerbaijan in NK


Cowardly terrorit state Armenia only can hidding behind of Russia and fire Missiles on innocent civilians in Azerbaijan ..... nothing else

Armenians just cried to the US,France,Russia to stop Azerbaijan Armed Forces ....

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Azerbaijan Armed Forces will liberate whole occupied territory of Azerbaijan and Armenia has no power to match with Azerbaijan in NK


Cowardly terrorit state Armenia only can hidding behind of Russia and fire Missiles on innocent civilians in Azerbaijan ..... nothing else

Armenians just cried to the US,France,Russia to stop Azerbaijan Armed Forces ....

CSTO is a pretty good thing. If Azerbaijan shells Armenia proper Armenia activate CSTO chapter 4 and Russia mop Azeris ala Desert Storm.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

You can thank the Ruskies for drawing the border and causing war in the first place. Just like Brits did with kashmir. Western imperialists are good at creating wars.

The Russians or the Soviets didn't cause any war (though their actions didn't really help either). Armenians purged their lands of Azeris long before Stalin or Brezhnev started drawing any lines. As is often the case, communists try desperately hard to overcome the religious purges of yesteryear - usually unsuccessfully. However, to suggest that Moscow is to blame for the crimes of some religious zealots in the Armenian community is another classic example of smoke and mirrors gameplay adopted by Armenia and their sympathisers.

You need to stop ignoring the earlier pages in this thread where the history was explained clearly.

The Muslim Heritage of Yerevan: Not Just Another Brick in the Wall | Caucasus Edition

In the 14-15th centuries Yerevan along with its Armenian and Christian population predominantly consisted of Muslims - Persians, Kurds, Turks, and Tatars.

caucasusedition.net

"Before the migration of Armenians from the Ottoman and Persian Empires, after 1828, the Kurds and the Caucasus Tatars – a group that since the early 20th century is referred to as Azerbaijanis – were the first and third biggest groups living in the Yerevan Khanate[1]. In the city of Yerevan, they often lived mixed with other groups, but the majority was concentrated in the eastern part of the city which also includes the Firdusi area."

 

[thetutle]

You can thank the Ruskies for drawing the border and causing war in the first place. Just like Brits did with kashmir. Western imperialists are good at creating wars.

This is no reason to have a war. That exclave is a part of Armenia. some exclaves are part of AZ. This is common in Europe. Germany-Belgium I know has this. Bosnia-Serbia has this. There has never been a problem. Residents have a special pass. Everyone else brings their passports.

Problem is NK and occupied territories. they have to be returned. you know this. NK will have some sort of autonomy. You don't honestly think Armenia will get this territory?

 

[MMM-E]

CSTO is a pretty good thing. If Azerbaijan shells Armenia proper Armenia activate CSTO chapter 4 and Russia mop Azeris ala Desert Storm.

keep dreaming with CSTO ........ Russia can not fire even one bullet on Azerbaijan who signed defense agreement with NATO Country Turkiye



Azerbaijan can delete Armenian cities from the map but Azerbaijan is not terrorist state to bomb civilians

Azerbaijan is kicking Armenia in N.K and Armenians just crying to the US,France,Russia to stop Azerbaijan Armed Forces

 

[vizier]

Most Azerbaijani hits were from supposedly TB2 or other armed drones it seems. TB2 or other similar small drones carries only two missiles but is not a disadvantage. Its small rotor behind fuselage and only 2 bombs combined with its small size makes it a semi-stealth drone it seems at least against Russian S anti aircraft batteries have very high difficulty detecting them which was shown in Syrian pantsyr losses as well as NK hits. Newer drone models have more payload but to reduce rcs some can be carried inside or outside in an external enclosed weapons bay(for Akinci and new models). Lower rcs and less detectability is a higher advantage than higher payload.

From technical standpoint it can be said that Armenia cant use medium - long range radars with sams as they can cover most NK from inside Armenian soil and if a radar is directly attacked inside Armenia they would call Russia for help according to CSTO treaties. So we can infer that armenian radars cant see the drones. Also drones dont have a2a capability they have a2g capability. Sending a fighter plane against a drone flying low inside NK below Azerbaijani ground radar detection(flying low blocks ground radar detection from long ranges because of mountains and earth curvature) to intercept armed drones can be another move considering that Azerbaijan also lacks awacs and bvr capability they need to chase the plane after detecting it wvr risking their own plane. But since they cant detect drones and maybe because of risky to fly mountanous region this stops both Azerbaijani and Armenian airforces and low number of planes from risking their aircraft flying low.

What Armenia does is they bomb Az civilian targets by ballistic missiles and before that several months ago they killed an Az general without thinking about their own capabilities and Un resolutions about Karabagh that could initiate Az response which it did later on. They almost called for it and now the issue became increasingly getting complicated for all surrounding countries like Turkey, Russia as well as Iran which has a high ethnic population connected to Azerbaijan as well. If Armenia gives a timetable to leave at least certain parts of Karabagh and immediately stops rocket attacks to Azerbaijani cities there would be a higher chance of a new more persistent ceasefire. Then further steps can be taken for peace with negotiations with previous Un resolutions and additional inputs by conflicting countries Az and Ar to ensure no future war ever happens again between them.

 

[thetutle]

Most Azerbaijani hits were from supposedly TB2 or other armed drones it seems. TB2 or other similar small drones carries only two missiles but is not a disadvantage. Its small rotor behind fuselage and only 2 bombs combined with its small size makes it a semi-stealth drone it seems at least against Russian S anti aircraft batteries have very high difficulty detecting them which was shown in Syrian pantsyr losses as well as NK hits. Newer drone models have more payload but to reduce rcs some can be carried inside or outside in an external enclosed weapons bay(for Akinci and new models). Lower rcs and less detectability is a higher advantage than higher payload.

From technical standpoint it can be said that Armenia cant use medium - long range radars with sams as they can cover most NK from inside Armenian soil and if a radar is directly attacked inside Armenia they would call Russia for help according to CSTO treaties. So we can infer that armenian radars cant see the drones. Also drones dont have a2a capability they have a2g capability. Sending a fighter plane against a drone flying low inside NK below Azerbaijani ground radar detection(flying low blocks ground radar detection from long ranges because of mountains and earth curvature) to intercept armed drones can be another move considering that Azerbaijan also lacks awacs and bvr capability they need to chase the plane after detecting it wvr risking their own plane. But since they cant detect drones and maybe because of risky to fly mountanous region this stops both Azerbaijani and Armenian airforces and low number of planes from risking their aircraft flying low.

This is a good point. ARM radars are in ARM and they have troubles detecting drones over NK. I think the drones are flying low over NK and using the mountains as cover a lot fo the time.

Thats why just before the soldiers get blown up they re running for their lives. That means they can hear the drone. It's flying low. They can't hear the missile that's coming for them.

If the ARM moves radars onto NK they'll just get shelled or identified by that propeller plane that AZ are sacrificing to uncover the AA positions.

So it's not that the Russian systems don't work. they just don't work in this theatre against a sophisticated adversary. This must come a wake up call to Iran who think they have AA capacity. They don't, and in a war with America, US would establish air dominance within a week or two.

 

[Nasr]

How close are Azerbaijan and israel really are!?
(not the title of the article)

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Recent fighting between Armenia and Azerbaijan exposed Israel as a significant player in the region. Though far apart geographically, Baku and Tell Aviv pursue strategic relations. The dilemma is how this should be done in a region where Russian, Iranian, and Turkish interests predominate, as none of those countries desires another competitor.

Fighting in July between Armenia and Azerbaijan caused many casualties along the border, and the governments of the region fear an escalation to the scale of the four-day war between the two states in 2016. I will not delve into the details of the recent flare-up as that has been done elsewhere (and much remains in dispute in any case), but will focus instead on one interesting aspect of the tension in the South Caucasus: the role of Israel.

Tel Aviv is confronted with a dilemma in the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh (which is officially within Azerbaijan’s borders). Israel is not a direct participant, but it enjoys close relations with both combatants (for instance, Armenia recently sent its first ambassador to Israel). Tel Aviv has stayed completely out of the evolving conflict so far, which is the logical approach. One of the latest statements from Israel’s foreign ministry about the recent violence is an anodyne expression of concern and a hope for a swift ceasefire.

Though small and far from the conflict area, Israel nevertheless has vital strategic interests in the South Caucasus. Azerbaijan stands out, as its relations with Israel dwarf the latter’s relations with Armenia.

Israel and Azerbaijan established diplomatic relations in April 1992, and in 1993, Israel opened an embassy in Baku. Ever since then, relations have broadened and deepened. The relationship is predicated on a number of geo-strategic factors. The first is Azerbaijan’s loss of political control over Nagorno-Karabakh and growing need to correct that situation via an expansive military program, which has caused it to become a major importer of Israeli defense technologies. Israeli defense companies have trained Azerbaijani special forces and bodyguards, built security systems for the Baku airport, and upgraded Soviet-era military equipment (tanks).

The scale of the transactions between the two is immense. In 2012, reports emerged about a $1.6 billion purchase by Azerbaijan of weapons manufactured by Israel Aerospace Industries. In 2016, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu said Azerbaijan had bought $5 billion worth of weapons from Israel (unmanned aerial vehicles and satellite systems). In 2017, the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute reported that Baku had purchased $127 million worth of military technology from Tell Aviv.

This does not mean that all has gone smoothly so far. Halts in cooperation between the two have occurred. In 2017, claims emerged that an Israeli drone manufacturer had attempted to bomb the Armenian military on the Azeris’ behalf during a demonstration of one of its “suicide” unmanned aerial vehicles. In a rare move, the Israeli Defense Ministry suspended the export license.

Thus it comes as no surprise that on July 21, after the recent border flare-up with Azerbaijan, Armenia showcased alleged Israeli-made drones that it presumably shot down during the fighting. No specifics were given, but the Israeli firm Aeronautics Defense Systems does indeed manufacture several types of Orbiter UAVs, including lightweight systems for reconnaissance and others for aerial attack.

Overall, however, the bilateral military cooperation has been burgeoning ever since Azerbaijan’s independence in 1991. Israel has been willing to provide Baku with high tech at a level that Yerevan and even Moscow do not possess.

But business alone is insufficient grounds for a long-term geopolitical relationship. Azerbaijan and Israel share other fundamental interests, of which the Iran issue is arguably the most crucial.

Iran, located to Azerbaijan’s south, is Israel’s arch nemesis, while Baku and Tehran have mixed relations. Diplomatic relations exist and bilateral economic contacts are extensive (primarily via the newly introduced North-South economic corridor through Azerbaijan, though much more can yet be achieved there). Baku is nevertheless apprehensive about Iranian moves that could complicate its position in the South Caucasus and Caspian Sea.

All of this is heightened by Tehran’s concerns about the allegedly political aspirations of the Azeris in Iran. Tehran thinks that at an opportune moment, secession talks could occur, at which a “Greater Azerbaijan” idea might emerge. This is all hypothetical, but there is a high level of distrust between the two states. Consider, for example, Azerbaijan’s recent claim that Iran was sending trucks to Nagorno-Karabakh. Baku summoned Iranian diplomats and accused Tehran of stoking the conflict over the land.

This state of affairs naturally makes Israel a comfortable partner for Azerbaijan. Moreover, from Jerusalem’s perspective, Azerbaijan’s geographic position on Iran’s border makes it an ideal site for the gathering of strategic intelligence. Media sources claim that Israel helped Baku build electronic intelligence-gathering stations along the Azerbaijani border with Iran in the 1990s.

Claims are occasionally made that the two countries are engaged in tactical cooperation against Iran. For instance, in 2012, Foreign Policy reported that Israel had an arrangement with Azerbaijan allowing it to potentially fly sorties out of the country. Cooperation regarding the war on terror also exists.

The close relations between Israel and Azerbaijan also fit into the larger perspective the US has for the region. In the early 1990s, Washington encouraged a triangular relationship between Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Israel. Georgia was added later, though the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008 shattered Tbilisi’s prospects as did the crisis in Israeli-Turkish relations.

Despite that setback, the geopolitical model has worked. Azerbaijan and Israel continue to regard their geopolitical interests as vital for regional security, and Georgia plays a transit role. Baku supplies up to 40% of Israel’s oil needs, which is imported through the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) pipeline.

There are also weaknesses to their bilateral relations. Azerbaijan experiences geopolitical pressure from Russia and Iran, and the cold-to-hot war with Armenia is a persistent problem. In these difficult geopolitical circumstances, Baku has to balance its relations with Israel carefully to avoid drawing heavy pressure from Tehran, Moscow, and even Ankara.

Defying Geography: The Israel-Azerbaijan Partnership

Recent fighting between Armenia and Azerbaijan exposed Israel as a significant player in the region. Though far apart geographically, Baku and Jerusalem pursue strategic relations. The dilemma is how

besacenter.org

 

[Nasr]

Try and dissuade us from my argument of a deep rooted connection between Azerbaijan, israel and Turkey, based on their shared ancestors, the Western Turkic Kaghanate, all you want. But the truth cannot be defeated, nor can it be hidden for long. Try all you might, but the Truth shall always be triumphant over falsehood.

A disclaimer: I am not Shia, I am not Wahhabi, I am not saudi, I am not Iranian, I am not Turkish ... I am a Muslim and in that right, I am Pakistani. So take your trash talk and shove it where the sun don't shine!!

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The Caucasus war between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region creates strange bedfellows and leaves sectarian considerations at the door.

Though Azerbaijan is predominantly Shia, Christian Armenia is favoured by Iran, a third of whose population is of Azeri descent, including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.

Even more unusual is the strange coupling of Turkey and Israel, which are hostile to one another both diplomatically and in terms of security. Yet both states, dominated by their Sunni and Jewish communities respectively, support and arm Azerbaijan.

Russia, which has a military air base in Armenia, repeats its policy in Syria by working with several parties at once.

The war - which has seen the most intensified military clashes since the 1988-1994 conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan - broke out on 27 September. Both sides accuse each other of violating the fragile ceasefire.

During the current conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh, in which 300 uniformed troops and civilians on both sides have been killed so far, Israel has increased its military assistance to Azerbaijan.

At least four Ilyushin Il-76 planes, operated by the Azerbaijani cargo airline Silk Way, which serves Baku’s defence ministry, have landed and taken off from the Israeli Uvda military air base in southern Israel. According to flight regulations, that is the only airport from which planes loaded with explosives are allowed to take off.

The Silk Way fleet flew directly from Baku to Uvda and back, according to its flight path documented on various websites that monitor air traffic. Some of these planes have also flown from Baku to Ankara and Istanbul and back over the last two weeks.

Turkish ties
Since 1957, Israel and Turkey have developed secret but close relations, and became strategic allies coordinating with American and British interests in the region. Their common enemies were first Egypt (until the 1979 Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty), Syria and later the Islamic Republic of Iran.

The Israeli intelligence community - Mossad and the military intelligence - developed very intimate ties with the Turkish MIT agency and Ankara’s military. Israel had a listening post in Turkey and the two sides worked hand in hand to spy on their common enemy Syria. Occasionally, Turkey was assisted by Mossad in the battle against Turkish Kurds.

Over the years, especially in the 1980s and 1990s, Israel’s defence industries sold arms to Turkey, which included intelligence equipment, missiles avionics and upgraded tanks and planes. The overall volume of the deals was nearly $10bn.

Ironically, among the systems sold to Turkey were drones and technology manufactured by Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), which helped Ankara build a comparable industry. Turkish Bayraktar drones are now in action in Nagorno-Karabakh’s battlefields, as well as in Iraq, Syria and Libya.

Turkey, which once had a zero-conflict policy with its neighbours, is currently in conflict with several of them: Syria, Russia, Iraq, Israel and Greece. The beginning of the 21st century and the emergence of Recep Tayyip Erdogan as Turkey’s strongman saw Ankara's gradual move away from its previous strategy.

Erdogan reduced Turkey’s relations with the West and strengthened ties to Qatar, the Hamas movement and Muslim Brotherhood branches across the region. Meanwhile, it is involved in civil wars and military or intelligence interventions in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Somalia.

This shift in strategy included severing Turkey’s military and intelligence cooperation with Israel, though trade and touristic ties continue to flourish.

Cashing in
Searching for a new market for its military armaments and for a new Muslim ally in the region, Israel found Azerbaijan. Particularly since 2010, the two countries have formed a strategic alliance, backed by the US, against their mutual foe Iran.

Mossad chiefs, senior military officers and cabinet ministers frequently visit Baku, and their Azeri counterparts reciprocate with meetings in Tel Aviv. Four years ago, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, on his way to Kazakhstan, stopped over for seven hours in Baku.

It was sufficient time for the Azeri president, Ilham Aliyev, an autocrat known for violating human rights and harshly suppressing any opposition, to reveal openly for the first time that Azerbaijan had purchased weapons from Israel to the tune of $5bn. Since then, the volume has increased and is estimated now to be at $7bn.

All Israel’s major military and security firms benefit from Azerbaijan’s eagerness to be armed to the teeth. According to some reports, IAI, Elbit, Rafael and other smaller defence companies are selling Baku just about anything. This includes artillery, missiles, naval vessels, intelligence equipment and more.

Almost all the Israeli companies that make drones, including attack or self-destructing kamikaze or suicide ones, have sold their wares to the Azeri army. Armenian spokesmen have said in the past that some of these, including ones made by Aeronautics Ltd., were downed during incidents along the border with Azerbaijan.

Other reports claimed that Israel’s Iron Dome anti-missile and rocket system was also sold to Azerbaijan, and it may well be that it is already being used in the battlefields in Nagorno-Karabakh to intercept Russian-made rockets launched by Armenia.

To cover and balance some of the rising cost of the weapons, Israel buys oil from Azerbaijan.

Moreover, according to foreign sources, Mossad established a station in Azerbaijan, serving as the “eyes, ears and springboard” for monitoring Iran. According to these reports, Azerbaijan prepared an airfield that would assist Israel in case it attacked Iran. Other reports claimed that the Iranian nuclear archive that was stolen by Mossad agents in Tehran two and a half years ago was smuggled to Israel through Azerbaijan.

Spokesmen at the Israeli defence and foreign ministries declined to comment, while a spokeswoman from Armenia’s ministry of foreign affairs called upon Israel to stop military sales to Azerbaijan.

As usual with Israel when it comes to its security interests, there is no room for other considerations such as human rights, universal values and morality. For years Israel - which considers itself to be the homeland of the Jewish people and the bulwark against a repeat of the Holocaust - has refused to recognise the Armenian Genocide during the First World War.

The Israeli pretext was to not anger Turkey. But even now, when Erdogan is bashing Israel almost daily and the need to placate him has subsided, Israel still refuses, using an old-new excuse: Azeris are friends of Turkey, so don’t rock the boat.

How Israel and Turkey became strange bedfellows in Azerbaijan

When Israeli-Turkish military cooperation cooled, the Israelis turned to Baku. Now Nagorno-Karabakh has thrown them all together

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

The south was the easy part but from here on out it's going to be tough now that Azeris hit the mountains.
Armenians control mountainous stronghold Hadrut

https://twitter.com/x/status/1315265430668357635

https://twitter.com/x/status/1315267147208232961

It is an old video, at least a week ago.

 

[raahaat7]

Tell you what, if I'm wrong, I'll openly admit to it, and personally apologize to you.

However, I'm confident it's not gonna happen.

As for the picture, the wing shape for the thunder and the f16 are similar, but their placement and sizes are different, not to mention how the front looks.

f16 vs jf 17 size comparison - Google Search

It's very clearly two f16, and it makes WAY more sense for it to be an f16, because we know that Turkey is heavily involved in this conflict.

Those fighters likely belong to Turkey.

It makes no sense for the fighters to be jf17s. Azeri ambassador being in PAC Kamra means nothing, as a lot of ambassadors from multiple nations have been there, which has resulted in nothing happening.

Russia would 100% intervene, as they'd end up losing bases, and all influence in the region if this occurred.

Basically, this is Russia's red line.

Baku should stick to it's legal border, nothing more.

Tur

Özbekistan removed Russian from their official documents. They are currently undergoing Islamization under their new government.

Things are changing fast.

May be to placate fergana valley.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

One word describes your drivel here: Bullsh-t.

Try and dissuade us from my argument of a deep rooted connection between Azerbaijan, israel and Turkey, based on their shared ancestors, the Western Turkic Kaghanate, all you want. But the truth cannot be defeated, nor can it be hidden for long. Try all you might, but the Truth shall always be triumphant over falsehood.

A disclaimer: I am not Shia, I am not Wahhabi, I am not saudi, I am not Iranian, I am not Turkish ... I am a Muslim and in that right, I am Pakistani. So take your trash talk and shove it where the sun don't shine!!

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The Caucasus war between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region creates strange bedfellows and leaves sectarian considerations at the door.

Though Azerbaijan is predominantly Shia, Christian Armenia is favoured by Iran, a third of whose population is of Azeri descent, including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.

Even more unusual is the strange coupling of Turkey and Israel, which are hostile to one another both diplomatically and in terms of security. Yet both states, dominated by their Sunni and Jewish communities respectively, support and arm Azerbaijan.

Russia, which has a military air base in Armenia, repeats its policy in Syria by working with several parties at once.

The war - which has seen the most intensified military clashes since the 1988-1994 conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan - broke out on 27 September. Both sides accuse each other of violating the fragile ceasefire.

During the current conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh, in which 300 uniformed troops and civilians on both sides have been killed so far, Israel has increased its military assistance to Azerbaijan.

At least four Ilyushin Il-76 planes, operated by the Azerbaijani cargo airline Silk Way, which serves Baku’s defence ministry, have landed and taken off from the Israeli Uvda military air base in southern Israel. According to flight regulations, that is the only airport from which planes loaded with explosives are allowed to take off.

The Silk Way fleet flew directly from Baku to Uvda and back, according to its flight path documented on various websites that monitor air traffic. Some of these planes have also flown from Baku to Ankara and Istanbul and back over the last two weeks.

Turkish ties
Since 1957, Israel and Turkey have developed secret but close relations, and became strategic allies coordinating with American and British interests in the region. Their common enemies were first Egypt (until the 1979 Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty), Syria and later the Islamic Republic of Iran.

The Israeli intelligence community - Mossad and the military intelligence - developed very intimate ties with the Turkish MIT agency and Ankara’s military. Israel had a listening post in Turkey and the two sides worked hand in hand to spy on their common enemy Syria. Occasionally, Turkey was assisted by Mossad in the battle against Turkish Kurds.

Over the years, especially in the 1980s and 1990s, Israel’s defence industries sold arms to Turkey, which included intelligence equipment, missiles avionics and upgraded tanks and planes. The overall volume of the deals was nearly $10bn.

Ironically, among the systems sold to Turkey were drones and technology manufactured by Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), which helped Ankara build a comparable industry. Turkish Bayraktar drones are now in action in Nagorno-Karabakh’s battlefields, as well as in Iraq, Syria and Libya.

Turkey, which once had a zero-conflict policy with its neighbours, is currently in conflict with several of them: Syria, Russia, Iraq, Israel and Greece. The beginning of the 21st century and the emergence of Recep Tayyip Erdogan as Turkey’s strongman saw Ankara's gradual move away from its previous strategy.

Erdogan reduced Turkey’s relations with the West and strengthened ties to Qatar, the Hamas movement and Muslim Brotherhood branches across the region. Meanwhile, it is involved in civil wars and military or intelligence interventions in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Somalia.

This shift in strategy included severing Turkey’s military and intelligence cooperation with Israel, though trade and touristic ties continue to flourish.

Cashing in
Searching for a new market for its military armaments and for a new Muslim ally in the region, Israel found Azerbaijan. Particularly since 2010, the two countries have formed a strategic alliance, backed by the US, against their mutual foe Iran.

Mossad chiefs, senior military officers and cabinet ministers frequently visit Baku, and their Azeri counterparts reciprocate with meetings in Tel Aviv. Four years ago, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, on his way to Kazakhstan, stopped over for seven hours in Baku.

It was sufficient time for the Azeri president, Ilham Aliyev, an autocrat known for violating human rights and harshly suppressing any opposition, to reveal openly for the first time that Azerbaijan had purchased weapons from Israel to the tune of $5bn. Since then, the volume has increased and is estimated now to be at $7bn.

All Israel’s major military and security firms benefit from Azerbaijan’s eagerness to be armed to the teeth. According to some reports, IAI, Elbit, Rafael and other smaller defence companies are selling Baku just about anything. This includes artillery, missiles, naval vessels, intelligence equipment and more.

Almost all the Israeli companies that make drones, including attack or self-destructing kamikaze or suicide ones, have sold their wares to the Azeri army. Armenian spokesmen have said in the past that some of these, including ones made by Aeronautics Ltd., were downed during incidents along the border with Azerbaijan.

Other reports claimed that Israel’s Iron Dome anti-missile and rocket system was also sold to Azerbaijan, and it may well be that it is already being used in the battlefields in Nagorno-Karabakh to intercept Russian-made rockets launched by Armenia.

To cover and balance some of the rising cost of the weapons, Israel buys oil from Azerbaijan.

Moreover, according to foreign sources, Mossad established a station in Azerbaijan, serving as the “eyes, ears and springboard” for monitoring Iran. According to these reports, Azerbaijan prepared an airfield that would assist Israel in case it attacked Iran. Other reports claimed that the Iranian nuclear archive that was stolen by Mossad agents in Tehran two and a half years ago was smuggled to Israel through Azerbaijan.

Spokesmen at the Israeli defence and foreign ministries declined to comment, while a spokeswoman from Armenia’s ministry of foreign affairs called upon Israel to stop military sales to Azerbaijan.

As usual with Israel when it comes to its security interests, there is no room for other considerations such as human rights, universal values and morality. For years Israel - which considers itself to be the homeland of the Jewish people and the bulwark against a repeat of the Holocaust - has refused to recognise the Armenian Genocide during the First World War.

The Israeli pretext was to not anger Turkey. But even now, when Erdogan is bashing Israel almost daily and the need to placate him has subsided, Israel still refuses, using an old-new excuse: Azeris are friends of Turkey, so don’t rock the boat.

How Israel and Turkey became strange bedfellows in Azerbaijan

When Israeli-Turkish military cooperation cooled, the Israelis turned to Baku. Now Nagorno-Karabakh has thrown them all together

www.middleeasteye.net

Azeri offensive stalled. Much losses. Caused by said hardware.
Armenia will not return NK to Azerbaijan unless Azerbaijan returns Artsvashen back to Armenia.

Artsvashen - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Fellas, is there a way to mute someone in the forum so you don't see their gibberish? Please let me know. This guy is definitely a candidate for the mute button.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Azeri offensive stalled. Much losses. Caused by said hardware.
Armenia will not return NK to Azerbaijan unless Azerbaijan returns Artsvashen back to Armenia.

Artsvashen - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There are similar small islands belonging to Azerbaijan inside Armenia. Will be swapped.

 

[raahaat7]

lmao.. His one of these very strange posters around here and says irrelevant stuff.
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On Topic.

If we look at the bigger picture here Azerbaijan conquered about 20% of Nagorno-karabakh in just 12 days. If you ask anyone that is an overachievement considering the terrain being mountainous. If 1 week more it could have been 50% of the territory as fatigue was setting into the Armenian forces and by next time the ceasefire is broken it could be over for Armenia but losing 20% in 12 days is big win for AzerBaijan militarily. They have proven that they can get rid of Armenia rather quickly if need be despite the mountainous regions. Also this proves with Turks new technological advancements no one is save in any mountainous regions against Turkey the same thing happened to the Kurds who were living in mountainous areas and the turks found a way and now Armenia can't use the mountains properly since they got basically ran over in bliztkrieg fashion in 12 days despite the terrain losing about 20%.

They can use this ceasefire to fill up their ammo and munitions and recycle and build defense and camps in their newly conquered territories then continue rinse and repeat

After what happened to ukrain, Kazakhstan was uneasy as it has a large Russian population in the north. It can also meet the same fate as Ukraine.

 

[Valar.]

Fellas, is there a way to mute someone in the forum so you don't see their gibberish? Please let me know. This guy is definitely a candidate for the mute button.

Ignore them.

Click on their profile.
Right next to their profile pic, beneath username, there will be an option 'Ignore'. Click on it.

Or simply bring your cursor to their profile pic on any thread and it will display option to Ignore. Click on it.