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UN resolution is irrelevant. If you think NK should be returned to Azerbaijan then you must also think Artsvashen must also be returned to Armenia.

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UN resolution is irrelevant
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So where are they?
Su30 are probably out of function
They are notorious for very low op rate
 
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Thanks so much brother. I did. I'm hoping the ignore button will work for me that I'll not see his drivel any more. Good riddance. What a sigh of relief! šŸ‘šŸ‘
 
How close are Azerbaijan and israel really are!?
(not the title of the article)

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Recent fighting between Armenia and Azerbaijan exposed Israel as a significant player in the region. Though far apart geographically, Baku and Tell Aviv pursue strategic relations. The dilemma is how this should be done in a region where Russian, Iranian, and Turkish interests predominate, as none of those countries desires another competitor.

Fighting in July between Armenia and Azerbaijan caused many casualties along the border, and the governments of the region fear an escalation to the scale of the four-day war between the two states in 2016. I will not delve into the details of the recent flare-up as that has been done elsewhere (and much remains in dispute in any case), but will focus instead on one interesting aspect of the tension in the South Caucasus: the role of Israel.

Tel Aviv is confronted with a dilemma in the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh (which is officially within Azerbaijanā€™s borders). Israel is not a direct participant, but it enjoys close relations with both combatants (for instance, Armenia recently sent its first ambassador to Israel). Tel Aviv has stayed completely out of the evolving conflict so far, which is the logical approach. One of the latest statements from Israelā€™s foreign ministry about the recent violence is an anodyne expression of concern and a hope for a swift ceasefire.

Though small and far from the conflict area, Israel nevertheless has vital strategic interests in the South Caucasus. Azerbaijan stands out, as its relations with Israel dwarf the latterā€™s relations with Armenia.

Israel and Azerbaijan established diplomatic relations in April 1992, and in 1993, Israel opened an embassy in Baku.
Ever since then, relations have broadened and deepened. The relationship is predicated on a number of geo-strategic factors. The first is Azerbaijanā€™s loss of political control over Nagorno-Karabakh and growing need to correct that situation via an expansive military program, which has caused it to become a major importer of Israeli defense technologies. Israeli defense companies have trained Azerbaijani special forces and bodyguards, built security systems for the Baku airport, and upgraded Soviet-era military equipment (tanks).

The scale of the transactions between the two is immense. In 2012, reports emerged about a $1.6 billion purchase by Azerbaijan of weapons manufactured by Israel Aerospace Industries. In 2016, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu said Azerbaijan had bought $5 billion worth of weapons from Israel (unmanned aerial vehicles and satellite systems). In 2017, the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute reported that Baku had purchased $127 million worth of military technology from Tell Aviv.

This does not mean that all has gone smoothly so far. Halts in cooperation between the two have occurred. In 2017, claims emerged that an Israeli drone manufacturer had attempted to bomb the Armenian military on the Azerisā€™ behalf during a demonstration of one of its ā€œsuicideā€ unmanned aerial vehicles. In a rare move, the Israeli Defense Ministry suspended the export license.

Thus it comes as no surprise that on July 21, after the recent border flare-up with Azerbaijan, Armenia showcased alleged Israeli-made drones that it presumably shot down during the fighting. No specifics were given, but the Israeli firm Aeronautics Defense Systems does indeed manufacture several types of Orbiter UAVs, including lightweight systems for reconnaissance and others for aerial attack.

Overall, however, the bilateral military cooperation has been burgeoning ever since Azerbaijanā€™s independence in 1991. Israel has been willing to provide Baku with high tech at a level that Yerevan and even Moscow do not possess.

But business alone is insufficient grounds for a long-term geopolitical relationship. Azerbaijan and Israel share other fundamental interests, of which the Iran issue is arguably the most crucial.

Iran, located to Azerbaijanā€™s south, is Israelā€™s arch nemesis, while Baku and Tehran have mixed relations. Diplomatic relations exist and bilateral economic contacts are extensive (primarily via the newly introduced North-South economic corridor through Azerbaijan, though much more can yet be achieved there). Baku is nevertheless apprehensive about Iranian moves that could complicate its position in the South Caucasus and Caspian Sea.

All of this is heightened by Tehranā€™s concerns about the allegedly political aspirations of the Azeris in Iran. Tehran thinks that at an opportune moment, secession talks could occur, at which a ā€œGreater Azerbaijanā€ idea might emerge. This is all hypothetical, but there is a high level of distrust between the two states. Consider, for example, Azerbaijanā€™s recent claim that Iran was sending trucks to Nagorno-Karabakh. Baku summoned Iranian diplomats and accused Tehran of stoking the conflict over the land.

This state of affairs naturally makes Israel a comfortable partner for Azerbaijan. Moreover, from Jerusalemā€™s perspective, Azerbaijanā€™s geographic position on Iranā€™s border makes it an ideal site for the gathering of strategic intelligence. Media sources claim that Israel helped Baku build electronic intelligence-gathering stations along the Azerbaijani border with Iran in the 1990s.

Claims are occasionally made that the two countries are engaged in tactical cooperation against Iran. For instance, in 2012, Foreign Policy reported that Israel had an arrangement with Azerbaijan allowing it to potentially fly sorties out of the country. Cooperation regarding the war on terror also exists.

The close relations between Israel and Azerbaijan also fit into the larger perspective the US has for the region. In the early 1990s, Washington encouraged a triangular relationship between Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Israel. Georgia was added later, though the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008 shattered Tbilisiā€™s prospects as did the crisis in Israeli-Turkish relations.

Despite that setback, the geopolitical model has worked. Azerbaijan and Israel continue to regard their geopolitical interests as vital for regional security, and Georgia plays a transit role. Baku supplies up to 40% of Israelā€™s oil needs, which is imported through the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) pipeline.

There are also weaknesses to their bilateral relations. Azerbaijan experiences geopolitical pressure from Russia and Iran, and the cold-to-hot war with Armenia is a persistent problem. In these difficult geopolitical circumstances, Baku has to balance its relations with Israel carefully to avoid drawing heavy pressure from Tehran, Moscow, and even Ankara.


Azerbaijan is a threat to Iran's territorial integrity. Azerbaijan lays claim to Azeri part of Iran. That's why Iran backs Armenia over Azerbaijan. That's why Israel backs Azerbaijan with military hardware to fight Iran.
 
Then what is the difference between them and us?

THIS POST IS FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO REFLECT ... YOU SHOULD GIVE IT A GOOD SPIN ... IT SHOULD MAKE YOU REALISE THINGS ABOUT UR INNER MUSALMAN ... HOW DEAD IT IS.
Why should we be different? Trend of being different n better then others isn't healthy. Some rapes a woman we shouldnt lock him in prison because we are better then him n our betterness tells us we should not imprison because its evil ... Since rape is evil imprisonment is evil ... We are better we should not pay evil with evil. Flowless logic. Rapist goes free to rape again. Dont need to be different we have to be sensible n practicle. Its a lesson Armenia needs to learn.

West carpetted bombed each other. One started carpet bombing other responded in kind. Carpet bombing = indescriminate bombing of cities to target civilians. They could have shown they are better then the other side n not responded but did they. You would say thats past . The nukes these countries have are not for army vs army its to kill entire population of country. In the 3rd wolrd war entire cities n populations will be flattened. If americans get nuked they will show THEY ARE BETTER BY NUKING EVERY INCH OF ENEMY. You people are guiilible as a human can be ... Try to understand real wolrd doesnt run on programmed morals n doesnt run on fantasies acquired from movies. Real world require eye for n eye not this gulluible sht u guys r in... Usa tax china goods ... China tax usa goods ... Chinese could have shown they are better then bullies ... But did they? Israelis get attacked by fire crackers they bombed the fack outta plastinians. Jews could show u n world they r better by not retaliating ... Instead they have made plastine into a open air prison controlling food water clothng medcine ... N when they feel like it they stop them ... You have entire world to show me where someone preaches what ur fcked up bs morality. Tit for tat is the whole of law. Indians shell pakistans shell .... We can prove we are better but do we and should we? What would you do your hetterness. You will n do want retaliation with same measure n with more ferocity.

People retaliate when someone they hold important love value care about when such things or someone of this type is harmed people respond retaliate. Reality is religion of Allah and his messenger has no value in hearts of people opposing what i said. Otherwise you will want revenge on par. Let me illustrate it to you if u thnk what i wrote was wrong ... Suppose a man comes has two buckets of piss n shit n throws them in ur beautiful house ... What would you? do marry your sister to him ? Because u guys are better? No you guys would beat sht outta him rape his mother in fact send gundas to his house to molest his babes ... I am exagerating a bit but u get the point ... You would do the worse u can think of n prolly make toilet on his grave after killing him. Be real with me not fake bs about how your cultured. You are not. Why the different reaction when mosques is descrated? Because its not your own .it doesnt hold value in ur hearts. you dont love religion of Allah . Thats the actual reason. You are only taking moral high ground bs because it involves islam n things related to it. If Pakistani flag. Pakistani army. Pakistan was attacked verbally physically your love for them would ask for ssame type of retaliation. Why? Cause u love it. Its important to you. This whats different between us n them comes out wen islam is harmed when muslim is harmed wen prophet is insulted when quran is burnt or flushed in toilet ... Then you n i hear people say dont retaliate ... Whats difference between us n them ... On all other ... This philosophy is jever mentioned.

I love Allah his messenger n muslims n places associated with them . And i preach n believe equal measure of retaliation. Law of world is ... Tit for tat is the whole and all of the law.
 
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The Armenians are firing their artillery indiscriminately. In this photo, you can see them hitting a cemetery in Qayqani village, Azerbaijan. It seems they're panicking and are in desperate mood. Otherwise, why would they punish the civilian population and fire their missiles indiscriminately?

To the contrary, the Azerbaijani military is focusing on the Armenian military and not civilians. It is a clear difference.

 
Armenians claim destroying 2 Azeri tanks using Faktoria or Kornet ATGM and repelled Azeri attack against mountain

The Armenians are firing their artillery indiscriminately. In this photo, you can see them hitting a cemetery in Qayqani village, Azerbaijan. It seems they're panicking and are in desperate mood. Otherwise, why would they punish the civilian population and fire their missiles indiscriminately?

To the contrary, the Azerbaijani military is focusing on the Armenian military and not civilians. It is a clear difference.


Maybe Azeris shelled themselves for propaganda. There is no proof Armenians shelled them.
 

I've never seen such terrain. the Northwestern quadrant of the occupied area is probably not even worth taking. If AZ can take the long lake up north and all the way to Shushi. And then you need to take all of the south. And as far west as the capital. That a job done.

The northwestern quadrant just declare a national park or something. Taking that back will be impossible. Tanks are useless, helicopters are sitting ducks. Ambush at every corner. That area needs a political solution.
 

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