Attack on PAF Base Minhas

[Bratva]

I always wonder, Hhw come when terrorists attacks in India, they carry ID cards with them but when some group attack in Pakistan, they only have weapons on them.

 

[Jango]

I always wonder, Hhw come when terrorists attacks in India, they carry ID cards with them but when some group attack in Pakistan, they only have weapons on them.

RAW is more clever than ISI!!!!

 

[Mani2020]

A senior member on sister forum

Timing calculated to the minute. They fired with RPG on a closed hangar. They did not even have to identify the aircraft. They knew which hangar to fire on.

This is either inside knowledge or months of surveillance. A very sophisticated enemy.

 

[Bratva]

RAW is more cleverer than ISI!!!!

USA said Lashkar e Taiba is next serious threat to America.... but same Lashkar e Taiba sends terrorist to India with documents on them so that India can easily trace them. Irony?

 

[Jango]

A senior member on sister forum

Surveillance. There are multiple hill tops from where you get a vantage point. The place where these camera crews have gotten there pics of Il-78 and C-130's.

That is the problem with our installations. Over time, they have become kind of intermixed with the civilian population, giving terrorists a good hiding spot. i.e Rawalpindi cantt.

 

[Fulcrum78]

From a strategic perspective, why was there a need for the senior most ranking personnel involved in the front line fight?
this can only be when there is ample evidence that the people responsible for the attack were known to the PAF personnel and perhaps the 3 senior officers were trying to resolve the situation on hand through dialogue rather than let the issue escalate.

The base commander himself is the senior most and prized asset for the base, his experience, knowledge and acumen is of utmost value. His involvement indicates that there has been an internal mutiny situation growing in the lower ranks

And on second thoughts why the hell have we allowed google earth to show our strategic bases with utmost detail and clarity. Please note that if you try to check any israeli base or Indian base for that matter you cannot see the details. The same appear smudged whereas we can even see where our F16 s and JF17s are parked on aprons and pens.
Google earth should be blocked for our prime bases and military installations.

 

[KALKI]

Kamra Attack: TTP is fighting India’s proxy war in Pakistan….

The attack of the militants of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) on a key Air Force base in Pakistan was brilliantly countered and frustrated by the valiant soldiers of Defense Services Guards and PAF but it has left the intended impact. It has raised the questions on the security of Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal. Or the story of the attack has been manipulated in a manner by international and Indian media which creates the perception as if the nuclear weapons were stockpiled in that very base. This may seem absurd by any logic but the damage has been done. The media, particularly Indian and its Western sympathizers, are screaming at the top of their voice that Pakistan’s nuclear security has been compromised. The first to flash this unsubstantiated claim is none other than The New York Times. According to the story of this paper, PAF Base Minhas is believed to be one of the locations where elements of Pakistan’s nuclear stockpile, estimated to include at least 100 warheads, are stored.

Even a novice in the art of mass media would conclude that the real target of TTP militants was Saab 2000 Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts. They were not even interested in the assembly line of JF Thunder aircraft being co-produced at Kamra. This attack is a rerun of a similar attack on Naval Air Base, Mehran where the target was P3C Orion aircraft used for Long Range Marine Patrol. The motive of the attack was to damage Pakistan’s sophisticated and expensive defense capabilities. TTP which claims to be fighting the occupation forces in Afghanistan are actually fighting to cripple Pakistan’s defense mechanism. And who should be behind these terrorists is not a million dollar question.

The unfortunate part of this episode is that the attackers appeared to have good knowledge of the area and the base. According to the analysts, it is not the work of half-educated Taliban militants. The attackers, some wearing military uniforms, moved through a nearby village under cover of darkness and climbed a nine-foot wall strung with barbed wire to break into the base. The latest attack on the air base comes at a time when media reports suggest that Pakistan is preparing for a new military operation in the restive tribal region of North Waziristan.

However, instead of clearly grasping the motive of the attack, the media started working overtime to suggest that Pakistan may not be the best country in which to store nuclear weapons.

It has now been established that TTP is India’s proxy working with Indian assistance to weaken Pakistan’s security establishment. Take the case of Lal Masjid of Islamabad where TTP had established its base and stockpiled lethal weaponry of fight the armed forces and take the control of Pakistani state. They had done this behind the cover of stick-wielding, buqa-clad female students of the seminary. Initially people were astonished at the sight of very tall burqa-clad girls but when the chief clerk tried to escape under the shroud of burqa, it was clear to everybody that most of the girls were actually male mercenaries of TTP.

Fearing a backlash from the armed forces, TTP militants have now escaped to their safe havens in Afghanistan and they have announced their comeback through frequent attacks on Pakistan’s border posts.

Apart from attacking military installations, the TTP militants are also attacking Pakistan’s Shia Muslims. In a daring attack on the day of Kamra assault, 25 Shia bus passengers were massacred in Naran area of Hazara Division. These militants have been attacking Shias of Gilgit and Quetta trying to trigger a sectarian war in Pakistan, a favorite tactic of Indian RAW to create a situation in Pakistan similar to civil war.

The unfortunate part is that those fighting India’s proxy war in Pakistan have sympathizers, both bearded and clean-shaven in the right places, politics and media and even some elements of the establishment. Pakistan’s military has to fight them in the battlefield but fighting them on ideological front is the job of the civilians. This front already stands penetrated by their supporters which makes the job of any military operation really tricky and complex. It is time that the people of Pakistan identify their enemies in media and political parties and in those enterprises which are populated by the bearded brigades These misguided zealots wish to take control through bullet because ballot is a far cry for them. In order to achieve this, they have knowingly or unknowingly sold their souls to the devil.

Kamra Attack: TTP is fighting India

 

[Edevelop]

RAW is more clever than ISI!!!!

Actually its more of demonizing Pakistan's reputation . During their 26/11 fighting hours, they pin-pointedly blamed Pakistan for transporting terrorists via fishing boats and carrying ISI identity cards. The story seems more like a Bollywood movie to me

 

[Slayer786]

Nobody can stop a suicide attack. They terrorists were ready to die. They wanted to damage and kill as much as they could. They failed.
Only one shaheed. May Allah grant him Paradise. Ameen.
But these terrorists had sophisticated weapons and training. Obviously, they must have come from Afghanistan where there are many so-called Indian consulates operating. They might even had probably met Bramdagh Bugti aka the terrorist leader of BLA for a cup of Indian tea.

 

[chauvunist]

Guys please dont come with rumors unless with proof or official statements,thats like giving us heart attack after recovering from one....

 

[KALKI]

Nobody can stop a suicide attack. They terrorists were ready to die. They wanted to damage and kill as much as they could. They failed.
Only one shaheed. May Allah grant him Paradise. Ameen.
But these terrorists had sophisticated weapons and training. Obviously, they must have come from Afghanistan where there are many so-called Indian consulates operating. They might even had probably met Bramdagh Bugti aka the terrorist leader of BLA for a cup of Indian tea.

It appears that killing people was not the primary purpose at all.

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Kamra attack retaliation for military offensive: Imran

ISLAMABAD/KARACHI - Pakistan’s two main opposition parties, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and the Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaaf (PTI) have taken exception to US defence secretary Leon Panetta’s statement that army chief Gen. Ashfaq Pervez Kayani would soon launch military operation in North Waziristan against the Taleban.
Imran Khan, who arrived in Karachi on Thursday, said that the attack on Kamra airbase was in retaliation for the use of force in the tribal area and drone attacks and opposed the idea of launching a military operation in North Waziristan.

Talking to the media at Karachi airport, the PTI leader said that his party had opposed the idea of a military operation in North Waziristan from the very first day.

He also warned that the law and order situation will worsen in Pakistan if the present government decided to toe the US line and launched an operation in North Waziristan.

“The latest attack on Kamra airbase is primarily due to the ongoing operation in Waziristan and the continued drone attacks. The only way out for Pakistan is to get out of this war which has nothing to do with Pakistan,” Khan said.

Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan of PML-N warned that the proposed operation would lead to serious backlash in the tribal areas.

Chaudhry Nisar cautioned against a backlash of the proposed military offensive saying that any new military campaign will fuel terrorism.

“The military should not plunge the country into a war at the behest of foreign powers,” he said while addressing the media in Islamabad.

Nisar said the country had been suffering as a result of the US-led ‘war on terror’, and added that “launching a new offensive in tribal areas will surely ignite a fresh wave of unrest, extremism and terrorism.”

He also asked the military’s top leadership to abide by parliamentary resolutions, and said that considering the government’s ‘unwise decision’ to resume Nato supplies, the people would never support a military operation in North Waziristan.

Kamra attack retaliation for military offensive: Imran

 

[Mani2020]

Guys please dont come with rumors unless with proof or official statements,thats like giving us heart attack after recovering from one....

you will not be the only to get one that i can assure you...count me too

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

Any comfirmed damages to Pak planes?

 

[KALKI]

US confident of Pakistan nuclear security

US confident of Pakistan nuclear security | DAWN.COM

Pakistan had intel about attacks on military bases: Report

Islamabad: A fortnight before Thursday's terrorist assault on a key airbase, Pakistani security agencies had issued two specific warnings about possible attacks on air force installations following the escape from prison of dreaded terrorist Adnan Rasheed.
The National Crisis Management Cell (NCMC) of the Interior Ministry issued an alert to officials in all four provinces which specifically warned that terrorists could target military installations, especially Pakistan Air Force facilities, using information provided by Rasheed, a former junior technician of the PAF.
Geo News reported that the alert issued by the NCMC had said: "Adnan Rasheed is a deadly terrorist for (whom) recently Taliban undertook a major operation to get him released from Bannu jail. He being from the air force, is privy to various sensitive locations/installations/airports etc."


"It is expected that with his release terrorist action against military installations, especially PAF, would increase. It is therefore suggested that all possible protective measures must be initiated to ensure necessary security of installations and VVIPs."
Rasheed escaped during a jailbreak engineered by the Taliban at Bannu Central Jail in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province on April 15.
He had been sentenced to death for involvement in an assassination attempt on former President Pervez Musharraf. Over 380 prisoners, including hardened jihadis, escaped during the jailbreak and Rasheed surfaced in the lawless tribal belt several weeks later.
Another alert issued by the NCMC to authorities in Punjab province had warned that "Punjabi terrorists (Qari Yasin group) present at Miranshah is planning to attack PAF base/installations at Lahore... on 27 or 28 Ramzan".
The alert advised authorities to put in place "extreme vigilance, heightened security and preventive measures" to avert any untoward incident.
Security experts noted that this alert had warned of a terror attack on a PAF facility on the 27th or 28th of Ramzan or August 16 or 17 well before heavily armed Taliban fighters stormed the Kamra airbase in Punjab on Thursday.
Nine terrorists and a soldier were killed during the attack.
However, the experts pointed out that the alert had warned of an attack on a PAF facility in Lahore and not Kamra.
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Pakistan had intel about attacks on military bases: Report - Pakistan News - IBNLive

 

[Peregrine]

I am going to send a sms to some one working at 11 corps, lets see if he will reply, just want to confirm if rumours about AWACS destruction are true or not. Mani2020 you hang in their buddy.