atheism , agnosticism and irreligion in pakistan……….

[Militant Atheist]

Why wasn't I mentioned?

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

secularism = separation of church and state…
anything else should come under non-religious or irreligious..
i don't support female imams, I'm against gay marriage but i can't stop them from marrying its non of my business, i'm against this stuff as a muslim.
as a pakistani I'm not against gay rights tbh because you know we already got kusrahs in pakistan and they roam freely already and they are infecting nobody with their disease they are just born that way…
as a pakistani i want the government to support every pakistanis rights….
to prevent muslims from going towards the west or becoming nonreligious its the job of us muslims to educate them about our culture and that we need to be proud and stick with our own ways of lives ect.

@Ghareeb_Da_Baal how many atheist and agnostics do you think we even have in pakistan? one of the point of this thread was to discuss what might be pushing people towards atheism or agnosticism and what we Muslims can do to help these guys stay muslim. any thoughts on that?

chanda, I know ons of both but I am really talking bout these "progressive" muslims. Atheists & agnostics, i can understand but I am talking about those who claim themselves to be muslims.

 

[qamar1990]

kid, look up the correct definition & meaning of secularism.
That homo kid from Rochester gave me the same definition as your ,up in Boston last month! seriously...

was he a pakistani by any chance? lol
Secularism- is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the statefrom religious institutions and religious dignitaries
this is the definition i follow.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

I am not really religious, but muslim of some kind i guess. Since i try my best to not miss roza every year, a part from that? Can't think of any abadat i do all year long.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

was he a pakistani by any chance? lol
Secularism- is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the statefrom religious institutions and religious dignitaries
this is the definition i follow.

born in the US. Most of them are. Your definition is flawed.

 

[qamar1990]

chanda, I know ons of both but I am really talking bout these "progressive" muslims. Atheists & agnostics, i can understand but I am talking about those who claim themselves to be muslims.

these progressive muslims are actually not muslims, i would put them in the definition of irreligious.. because most of the things they say go against the quran.. are you talking that bitch irsad manji and tarek fatah? lol

 

[JonAsad]

kid, look up the correct definition & meaning of secularism.
That homo kid from Rochester gave me the same definition as your ,up in Boston last month! seriously...

Lot of Pakistanis are secular just because thats the definition they know about secularism-

 

[KingMamba]

Why wasn't I mentioned?

Honorary Pakistani?

 

[JonAsad]

The poll- we should be able to see who chose what-
Otherwise lot of unknown indians will choose atheism or agnostic thus voiding the purpose-

 

[qamar1990]

born in the US. Most of them are. Your definition is flawed.

was he really gay or are you just calling him gay?
i have yet to meet a gay pakistani lol besides the kusrahs in pakistan.
i bet you he was from karachi anyways even if he was gay lol…
most of us pakistanis in rochester are very conservative people the urdu speakers and the punjabis while the afghans have totally lost it here.

well the term secularism has been highjacked. and if my definition is flawed then tell massi ji what shall we call a country where the masjid and the state don't mix?

 

[Militant Atheist]

Honorary Pakistani?

... And protector of Atheists

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

I am not really religious, but muslim of some kind i guess. Since i try my best to not miss roza every year, a part from that? Can't think of any abadat i do all year long.

these progressive muslims are actually not muslims, i would put them in the definition of irreligious.. because most of the things they say go against the quran.. are you talking that bitch irsad manji and tarek fatah? lol

sona, you really need to hang out with me in lahore. The progressive one are the ones calling themselves moderates.
No kidding. My own siblings was telling rest of the family how I was a maulvis just because I don t eat non zabiha or consume alcohol. Imagine that! So I get picked on all the times. No I was not talking bout manji & tareek.

 

[qamar1990]

The poll- we should be able to see who chose what-

i asked @Jungibaaz @Aeronaut @WebMaster but nobody have changed it yet.

I am not really religious, but muslim of some kind i guess. Since i try my best to not miss roza every year, a part from that? Can't think of any abadat i do all year long.

oye shabazya you belong in the muslim category meriya prawa… becuae going by your definition most of pakistan is some kind of muslims lol.

 

[KingMamba]

I chose Muslim but I am not the best Muslim. I only pray 3 times a day, I keep a clean shave and my weakness' are women and wine. I will put all roze though.

 

[Militant Atheist]

Pakistan government is already secular, just kick out the terrorist mofos out of your country and you'll reach the first world status in about 20 years.