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At Least 34 Turkish Soldiers Killed in Air Strike in Syria's Idlib, Watchdog Says

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only in your dreams ..... Turkish Army never will leave Idlib and Syria

You says , Turkiye should allow radical sectarian Assad Regime , Russia ,Iran and Iran backed shia terrorist groups to kill more 800.000 innocent Syrian civilians in Idlib or to force another millions of Syrian civilians to move from their lands to Turkiye

You says , Turkiye should allow Assad and Iran to transfer Hashdi Shabi and Pkk/Ypg terrorists to Idlib to attack Turkish city Hatay

You says , Turkiye should allow Assad , Russia and Iran to destroy Turkiye's territorial integrity via Pkk/Ypg terror organizations


only daydreamers can dream about it ....... Turkiye never will allow bandit countries to do it
You have comprehension problems.

Refer back to this response: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/at-l...ib-watchdog-says.654971/page-16#post-12115539

If Erdogan administration had committed to 'regime change' in Syria in full force much sooner back in the (2012 - 2014) period, your country wouldn't have been dealing with the current mess. YOU are now dealing with the consequences of delay and lack of direction vis-a-vis Syria as of late.

Assad regime have brought both Russia and Iran into the equation since 2015, and this camp control over 70% of territory in Syria now. Erdogan administration's flirtations with Russians in this GAME have put it in a predicament as of late - go all-out in Syria and risk a wider conflict with the aforementioned bloc or commit to half-baked measures in Idlib. Well, WE see half-baked measures in Idlib as of late. What difference will this make?

Congratulations I suppose.

Try to understand the criticism in this matter. It is about lack of political acumen of Erdogan administration.
 
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How many Persian soldiers and Russian soldiers are killed? Can you give me some details? Also, why are Persians fighting in the front line against Turkey in Syrian border when they can use infiltration from Iran-Turkey border itself?

There are no Persians lol

If there were, we would have seen some hell like Precision missile strikes (salvos) that would end the fighting in Idlib. We are not there, this is Syria liberating its own land from foreigners. Seems like they will succeed.

Btw most of the IRGC is made of Azeris, Caspians and Kurds but these idiots posting crap here will never learn anything.
 
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Why is Turkey doing a half a$$ job

either go in and flatten the area or just don’t go in

going and sitting waiting for the enemy to hit you is sheer stupidity

1- Turkey has no reasonable execuse for being in Syria
2- They don't trust their so called rebeles allies which will hapiliy call turks as kuffir whenever they want and start to kill turks ( they just need to post some pics from Istanbul and Antalia and show naked turkish women to justify their claims )
3- because both Iran and Russia spend so much money and blood in Syria and if Turkey directly attack both country interest in Syria , both countries will retaliate ....
4- Turkey is involved in so many place directly ... Iraq , Syria , Lybia , Cyprus , East Meditranian , Somali , Qatar ... a moment of weakness and they will lose so much ...
 
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Iran is there on invitation. If Assad asks Iran to leave, Iran should leave. Turkey is there on its own retarded mission that only God knows what is. Any idiot can see that Turkey fights a lost cause in Syria. It has to be the most incompetent and pointless mission I have seen in my entire life. Even worse than Saudis intervention in Yemen.


Wasmt saudi invited by yemen govt? How is that wrong and mullah intervwntion right? What about ppl of syria? The peaceful protests as part of arab spring. Turkey is there to defend genuine syrians. U can try to paintnit as u wish but only Turkey has been fighting for the innocent syrians. That pig assad and the dog puti is just killing ppl, using barrel bombs and targetring schools n hospitals. Have some shame and humanity.

1- Turkey has no reasonable execuse for being in Syria
2- They don't trust their so called rebeles allies which will hapiliy call turks as kuffir whenever they want and start to kill turks ( they just need to post some pics from Istanbul and Antalia and show naked turkish women to justify their claims )
3- because both Iran and Russia spend so much money and blood in Syria and if Turkey directly attack both country interest in Syria , both countries will retaliate ....
4- Turkey is involved in so many place directly ... Iraq , Syria , Lybia , Cyprus , East Meditranian , Somali , Qatar ... a moment of weakness and they will lose so much ...

How is 4 million refugees not a valid excuse? Iranian mullahs were crying fo half a million Afghan refugees and u say turks have no reason. There is a war on ur border with huge humanitarian crisis, what kind of a moron would sit idly and do nothing?
Both countries have invested alot but Turkey doeant want whole of syria, they want a buffer zone in idlib. Turkey didnt interfere when russians n asad killed hindreds of thousands of own citizens in damascus and allepo.
Its iran that is involved in many countries like iraq, syria, lebanon, Afghanistan, qatar etc and creating chaos.
 
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Everybody will see what will happen in a few days
I sincerely hope for an action. We have many options.
- We can close the straits for Russian warships.
- Can stop buying Russian gas.
- Send S-400S back.

I'm not even talking about military options. There are many ways to start doing something.

Personally I think IF their is a approval for war. It'll be another Afghanistan but for Turkey. In this particular sense of a 10+ year military effort, to take the rest of Idlib, hold, and secure the area.

Syria will not let it go easy so we could expect a quick conflict for a few months, followed by years of low level conflict in Idlib just like Afghanistan. This prospect would for sure kill anyone's political career in a flash.
We can't know that for sure but what we know for sure is, a war with Syria would be costly for Turkey.
Our economy is already going down from the drain and struggling with other problems in Turkey (Inflation, No-Jobs, Currency problems, Education Problems, Refugees). Erdogan making Turkey enter a war in ME would be end of his career.
 
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You says , Turkiye should allow Assad , Russia and Iran to destroy Turkiye's territorial integrity via Pkk/Ypg terror organizationsonly daydreamers can dream about it ....... Turkiye never will allow bandit countries to do it

Explain to us again the logic of the s-400 deal .

How exactly did Erdogan think it logical to trust those most likely to attack Turkey with it's air defense ?

Do you still think it was wise to cancel the F-35 deal for it. ?

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I sincerely hope for an action. We have many options.
- We can close the straits for Russian warships.
- Can stop buying Russian gas.
- Send S-400S back.

I'm not even talking about military options. There are many ways to start doing something.


We can't know that for sure but what we know for sure is, a war with Syria would be costly for Turkey.
Our economy is already going down from the drain and struggling with other problems in Turkey (Inflation, No-Jobs, Currency problems, Education Problems, Refugees). Erdogan making Turkey enter a war in ME would be end of his career.

1- If you do , and Russian took this matter to UNSC , then American have to vote against it and favor Turkey , then Iran can repeat the same in strait of hormuz and close it for all the western military ships ...

2- you can , but how you want to replace Russian gas in weeks !?

3- You still have to pay for the S-400 because you are the one who walk away from the deal ...

so don't give advice before thinking the consequences...
 
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RIP. Where was TAF when this happen?
 
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Still buried in conspiracy theories?

ISIS was the outcome of collusion between Syrian and Iraqi NSA back in 2013. Syrian Civil War paved way for these collaborations after 2011.

Hello isis was made by USA and Israel. This is not consparicy it is a fact.
 
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What a mess. Turkey should get rid of Erdogan and MB influence or it will not go well with them.
He is making enemies out of everyone. Europe, Iran, Syria, GCC and now Russia.
First Bought S-400, crapped the F-35 Acquisition Soured Ties with USA. Then the Qatar Fiasco with Arab World. Blatant Syrian Intervention and Tensions with Russia. Who in his right mind will support this foreign policy? seems like according to these Turkish members on this forum everyone is a security risk for Turkey.
You don't want american solution for kurds.
You don't want to join Syrian government against US-Kurdish Alliance.
You don't want Russian Solution in Idlib.

Mr. Erdogan believes he can defeat Russia, Iran, Syria Alone. Bomb Latakia and tartus, Block bosphorus strait, Occupy Allepo city ,create a unilateral state in Syrias Idlib and Allepo Provinces and occupy parts of Raqa and Hasakah, While also openly opposing USA and Europe whenever he wants.

Turkish Soldiers are dying for what? Erdogan is pushing them in senseless conflict. Hope someone like Mustapha Kamal rises again and give a coherent foreign policy to Turkey and Get rid of these Neo-Ottoman Fantasies
 
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Unleash airforce on Syrian army but stay clear of Russians. Enough bombs shud bring every one to negotiation table
 
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I think you are the fella that is dreaming.

The Russians on a daily basis are bombing Turkish troops. Turkeys response to that is to be chicken and attack Syrian Army troops because it doesn't have the courage to confront Russia. And then show a few dozen small isolated strikes and claim insane numbers like 1700 troops (especially when you include Russians and "Persians", which is complete false). You are living in a fairy tale land where the Russians are doing the real war and you and many Turks are fighting a Twitter war.

Says a hypocrite iranian who are targeted daily by israel and cant even open ur mouth. Go check the massive retaliation of Turkey. Unlike fake strikes by iran that didnt kill a single american, how is it revenge of that pig sulemani when not even a single american got killed?? Living off russian provided free hardware and bragging? Typical iranian fake pride. Go feed ur ppl and beg for medicine for the virus.
 
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