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At least 10 dead in Paris shooting

Ideologies could be easily crushed by killing all those who proscribe to them.

100% success rate. Only method which guarantees results.

Not when it's inadvertently, unknowingly, knowingly, innocently or shrewdly supported by larger entities.

How do you take out the monster when they give convincing arguments backed by religious texts for eg.

It isn't a stand alone phenomena that will simply go away by killing a few thousands of them.
 
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sorry, couldn't get you the first time ,read your post again .so deleted it
yes you have a point west shouldn't have allowed these nut jobs in the first place , even I am astonished as to how does the likes of A$$hole the magnitude of anjem chaudhry is allowed to roam free , he is hated by moderate Muslims the most , the situation is just too f...ked up & confused to be honest
Seriously that name makes me wanna puke I have no idea how he is allowed and not prosecuted!
 
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Interesting, thank you for shaing that nugget of information with us today. Don't worry there will be swift deportation for all those who do not "fit the bill".
i hope so... lets see what action they take.. after this attack, things gonna stir up in a new prospective..
 
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Show me where I justified it?! I honestly feel sorry for your brain which has only 2 episodes in mind which is if you can show me WHY these people are violent = justifying or if you speak hatred against Islam you are with me...

There other things at play...one of which is awareness! If you want to ignore how it happened that is up to you...But if you dont acknowledge that both sides are wrong ...you are a hypocrite!


Just coz I am pointing out (repeatedly) HOW and WHY it is happening DOESNT mean I have justified it!


Did I say suits them right? Did I say it was right?

you know sister the irony is if you show them their mistakes , they start to think we are justifying the terrorism ...they always see the outcome , but never try to prevent the cause of any terrorism ... i hope you understand my point ..
 
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Loan what loan:p::p:.............you have been given aid by US more than 10 Billion + military assistance in last 10 years under kerry luger bill. And before also you have received aid money from US. So stop BS about loan.You can't repay interest on loan taken from IMF, hell you have taken loan in 2014 to repay interest of the previous loan from IMF. Google and see Pakistan is the world largest receiver of Aid money bar Israel.........
Sigh! We suffered a backlash for that "AID"...

Mind you that is AID and I have answered its called AID WITH STRINGS attached! Why shouldnt one point out what it really is?!

Yes I am aware of the loan but whatever the case IMF has given plenty of loan without asking you or needing your approval and till date they are not bankrupt! So if you cant add 2 and 2 ...i have nothing much to say!
 
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We will see. Things develop

I can send your views to the authorities in Italy and Germany and you my friend will behind bars. Clearly you are delusional and have an hidden agenda to support attacks on Muslims. However you are gutless to show your real views in society, because you want to play arm chair key board general. Countless individuals have condemned this attack...and you have still continued your charade of empty threats
 
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Blowback In Paris
Armed Terrorists Kill 12 People


By Tony Cartalucci


January 07, 2015 "ICH" - "Land Destroyer"- France, as part of a NATO-led coalition, has been arming, funding, aiding, and otherwise perpetuating Al Qaeda terrorists for years, beginning, on record in Libya with the overthrow of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and continuing until today with NATO's arming, harboring, and backing of Al Qaeda terrorists including the so-called "Islamic State" (ISIS) within and along Syria's borders.

With the recent attack in Paris likely the work of the very terrorists France has been arming and backing across North Africa and the Middle East, the French government itself stands responsible, guilty of the continued material support of a terrorist organization that has now killed French citizens, including two police officers, not only on French soil, but within the French capital itself. In the New York Times article, "Terror Attack on Charlie Hebdo Newspaper in Paris Kills 12," it was reported that:

Masked gunmen with automatic weapons opened fire in the offices of a French satirical newspaper on Wednesday in Paris, the police said, killing 12 people and then escaping in a car.

President François Hollande said the attack on the weekly, Charlie Hebdo, was “without a doubt” an act of terrorism and raised the nationwide terror alert to its highest status. He said that several terrorist attacks had been thwarted in recent weeks.

However, despite Hollande's feigned concern and outrage over the attack, it was the French government who had advocated and presided over the arming of terrorist groups across the Arab World in the West's bid to overthrow nation after nation and reorder the entire region according to their own geopolitical and economic interests starting with the "Arab Spring" in 2011. The Washington Post would report in 2011 in an article titled, "France sent arms to Libyan rebels," that:

French officials announced Wednesday that they had armed rebels in Libya, marking the first time a NATO country has said it was providing direct military aid to opponents of the government in a conflict that has lasted longer than many policymakers expected.


Image: British-French leaders tour decimated Libya in wake of 2011 NATO intervention on behalf of "rebels" composed primarily of Al Qaeda terrorists.

While Hollande's predecessor, former French President Nicolas Sarkozy would be the one to set foot in decimated Libya in the wake of NATO's intervention there - which included in addition to French arms sent to terrorists, French planes providing these terrorists air cover as they carried out atrocities and genocide - Hollande would continue policies enacted under Sarkozy, both in Libya, and currently in Syria.

Attack Was Carried Out By Professional "Gladio-Style" Operators

Video that has emerged from the recent attack in Paris shows heavily armed militants expertly handling their military-grade weapons with precision and discipline - clearly the recipients of military training. Whichever flavor of "Al Qaeda" they hail from, they are a product of the global network of terrorism the West has purposefully created and perpetuates to this day in order to carry out a war of terror upon their own citizenry, as well as proxy wars against their enemies overseas.

French complicity in arming militants in Syria especially, has long been a point of contention and fear among critics who have for years warned about "blowback." However, it is unlikely that France, or its partners amongst this vast network of state sponsored global terror, did not anticipate such "blowback," and were somehow unable to prevent such attacks if desired. In other words, what the attacks in Paris appears to be, is another of NATO's "Operation Gladio" style attacks on the European people in an insidious bid to manipulate public perception as well as the regional political landscape.

Funded by the US, trained in Britain and maintained as paramilitary extremist groups throughout Europe during the Cold War, NATO's so-called "stay behind networks" were supposedly created to activate in the wake of a full-scale Soviet invasion of Western Europe. Instead, they were used to stage false-flag attacks, killing and maiming hundreds of Europeans with their atrocities blamed on the Soviet Union and their European sympathizers. The attacks and assassinations were used by NATO to manipulate public perception and reverse gains by political groups operating beyond NATO's control. Likewise, Al Qaeda and its various franchises including its most recent and notorious, ISIS, is being used simultaneously as a domestic menace and a foreign expeditionary mercenary force.


Image: French President Hollande in Saudi Arabia - among the most prolific state-sponsors of global terrorism on Earth and an irreplaceable partner in NATO's bid to reorder the Arab World.

Indeed, out of one side of President Hollande's mouth he would condemn the attacks in Paris, and out of the other, continue calling for the arming and backing of the very networks this attack originated from in order to continue the campaign of violence and terror in Syria.

Regardless of whatever investigation yields whatever conclusion, the fact that NATO has engineered such attacks in the past against the very people it claims to exist to protect, makes NATO and the various political leaders at the head of its respective member states prime suspects - both incapable of conducting an impartial investigation of the recent attack, and incapable of preventing another attack, likely engineered not from enemies beyond Europe's borders, but exceptionally dangerous enemies within them.

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Charlie Hebdo - The Chickens Come Home To Roost

By Moon Of Alabama


January 07, 2015 "ICH" - "Moon Of Alabama"-Twelve people, including two police, were killed in France when unknown gunmen attacked the office of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo today.
Some forty people were killed in Saana, Yemen, today in a bomb attack on people who were hoping to enlist with the police. These forty people and the many more wounded in the attack will get much less headlines than those killed in France.

Videos (1, 2) from the attack in Paris show the attackers in black clothing and behaving as if they had at least some military training. They were armed with automatic weapons and, according to the police, with a rocket launcher. At least two attackers are still on the run. We do not yet know the motive of the attackers, but I consider the following more likely than a false flag attack.

In 2011 the magazine Charlie Hebdo was one of those that printed the Mohammed caricatures, a crude and insulting attempt to smear the prophet and all Muslim as terrorists. In 2012 the magazine continued the campaign depicting the prophet Mohammed as naked, attention seeking gnome.

Unlike U.S. "liberals" most of the world does not consider free speech as an absolute right. Indeed like screaming "fire" in a filled theater, insulting the believe of other people is likely to get you hurt in most parts of the world. To claim such insults should not matter is itself an insult in that it declares one culture, that of absolute free speech rights, to be superior to other values. It is indecent.

That the Charlie Hebdo satire was indecent and insulting does not justify the murderous attack, but explains the probable motivation of the attackers. It is deeply wrong to kill people for their speech. But it is also wrong to insult others for no good reasons, be it profit or "free speech" worship.

The attackers in Paris are believed to be militants who pretend to be true Muslims fighting for their believes. The state of France under its presidents Sarkozy and Hollande has empowered and supported such pretenders in their attacks on the people and governments of Libya and Syria. In Syria Jihadi fighters of the Islamic State and Jabhat al-Nusra are using U.S. supplied anti-tank missiles. A German air defense regiment is defending their areas of retreat in Turkey against Syrian government attacks. While it supports Jihadis in Syria France is now deploying an air craft carrier to the Persian Gulf to attack the Islamic State in Iraq. The last point could also be the actual motive of today's attack.

The fundamentalists were cheered on by "western" politicians when they attacked civilians in Tripoli and Aleppo. When they attack in countries which cater to "western interests" or within "western" countries these attacks are seen as hostile and used to justify another lurch to the extreme right, to war and towards more totalitarian states.

Unless they push for saner, less aggressive policies the average people in the middle, no matter their believes, are the ones losing in this war.

 Blowback In Paris : Information Clearing House - ICH
 
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You know very well what I am talking about yet you pulled a couple of links that have nothing to do with what I just said. Are the jews centre of the universe for you? What's so special with jews anyway? If muslims are tolerant as you put it then there should be a change of laws regarding basic human rights. These are even state laws and not the thoughts of a group of people.
 
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Calling them French is an insult to our identity.

Still they were French citizens and it's reported that they were under surveillance from 2008 on terrorism charges, but seems they didn't do enough.
 
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This magazine mocked Prophet they are not innocent.

An old lady used to throw rubbish at Prophet Muhammad(saw) when ever he used to go past her house, one day she didn't so he went to her house only to find out she was very ill and frail. There and then the Prophet could have taken revenge. The big question for your tiny brainwashed Wahabi head is that if Prophet Muhammad(saw) didn't punish people who mocked him then who are you or any other brainwashed donkey to take ''revenge''? Please answer without trying to spit and drool. Cheers.
 
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Show me where I justified it?! I honestly feel sorry for your brain which has only 2 episodes in mind which is if you can show me WHY these people are violent = justifying or if you speak hatred against Islam you are with me...

There other things at play...one of which is awareness! If you want to ignore how it happened that is up to you...But if you dont acknowledge that both sides are wrong ...you are a hypocrite!


Just coz I am pointing out (repeatedly) HOW and WHY it is happening DOESNT mean I have justified it!


Did I say suits them right? Did I say it was right?

How is it the fault of the French people?.
 
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