Asean should be wary of being drawn into Japan's dispute

[ChineseTiger1986]

Plenty overseas Chinese don't hate CPC so don't try to generalize the idea of every Chinese hate the Communist government. China is doing great and doesn't need to become liberal worshippers such as yourself. Taiwan is too liberal and that's why your economy looks stagnant. The word "Communism" is just an excuse from the West to label it as an evil regime, especially North Korea. But then again Vietnam would also be considered evil too. You should stop telling us to change the style back to Confucianism, if China follows Taiwan it's gonna be doomed.
Instead Taiwanese should send more patrol boats to Diaoyu and not talking BS crap about Communism.

It is true, the Taiwanese democracy is nothing, but a big joke.

Those plasticizer crooks have received nothing for their crime, so this is their so-called democracy, lol.

 

[Khitan21]

Communism ideology didn't make China stronger. You proven by yourself by left it. Even the positive side of communism, like the free public welfare were being abandoned too. You just a communist in the name only.

Talk about KMT, agree! I dislike it too. The same level of stupidity with CCP.

What China need is to keep the current government structure intact, since it's working well. What you need to do is just removing the communist name and repromote Confucianism.


I do believe, people in East Asia will saw China better. Probably will make US mad, very mad! Just wait for much bigger punishment from US, much bigger than today.

I understand your disdain for the communist in the mainland, I mean my family suffered greatly when the communist took over the mainland and a large portion of my families wealth back in 40s was taken by the communist and my family was force to flee to Taiwan and Hong Kong but you have to admit, despite the rocky three decades that was caused by disastrous cultural revolution, China under the CCP was able to pick itself up from a century of wars and humiliation.

Believe it or not, the communist did more than the KMT ever did in the mainland: It was because of the CCP that China was able to reconsolidate power in Tibet and expel British influence over the region and incidentally influences over the Chinese heartland, it was Mao's bickering that allowed China to regain control of inner Manchuria which provided the resource for China's industrialization, it was the CCP today that has safeguard China's sovereignty and prevented the Soviets and Americans from controlling China, it is the CCP today that has open China a path to becoming a superpower.

If China was under the KMT or any other inept political party from Taiwan, China would be a whole lot smaller today and most likely be like an India today; filled with crazy politicians bickering over god knows what and never getting anything done, not to mention we would also be like a Philippines today; kissing up to the Americans and being a weaboo, worshipping Japan...

Maybe in the future China would change from communism to something more akin to Chinese culture. I see Communist China being equivalent to the Qin Dynasty which it too was risen from the ashes of fighting amongst other parties seeking to control China. The Qin dynasty was brutal, authoritarian and not to mention it too destroyed a lot of Chinese culture but it was highly organized and laid the foundation for a golden age: the Han Dynasty.

I believe the groundwork laid out by the communist in China will allow China to restore its culture and usher in a new golden age in China.

 

[NiceGuy]

If you can help us to get the watermelon, then we will reward you with the peanut for sure.

If you don't trust us, then you can bring Russia or India to balance us, we don't really care as long as USA is out of the picture.

There is No different to VN either US or China is the world leader, both of you hurt VN badly in the past, so of course for now, we will support the one who reward us more

We see No reward from you yet , Itu-aba still not under our control, so US still be our better partner coz she allows VN to enrich uranium, help VN to train pilot,help us to have a good relationship with her allies.

Let me telling you, we are not USSR.

USSR was stupid and didn't know how to play with the Communist strategy properly.

They didn't have the patience to deal with USA, yet with a much weaker economy, they directly started an arm race with the much more powerful USA. In result, they stagnated their own economy.

Yet they started to blame their own ideology and gave up the Communist Flag.

China never gave up the Communist Flag even at the most difficult time. With the downfall of USSR, we manage to survive and getting even stronger. The survival of the fittest has proven that China is the true leader of the Communist World.

The West often complains that China doesn't play with the rule, because we are still using the Communist economic ideology, using our state corporations to compete with their private corporations. We play the rule of the State Capitalism, which was invented by Comrade Lenin.

So if there is a war between China and Japan/USA, we best suggest you to stay away from it, since this is a war between the Communist and the Fascist, if you don't listen to our advice, then you are literally siding with the Fascist.

Oki, you're not stupid like USSR, but ur arm forces also not strong enough to war with U.S now. Ur spies is not smart enough to fool CIA like our perfect spies, ur special force can't sneak into U.S base and do some serious damage like our 'mud men'.

Until now, I think only Russia and VN arm forces can worry U.S forces in battle field. China arm forces has Nothing special to compete with U.S-Russia-VN

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Oki, you're not stupid like USSR, but ur arm forces also not strong enough to war with U.S now. Ur spies is not smart enough to fool CIA like our perfect spies, ur special force can't sneak into U.S base and do some serious damage like our 'mud men'.

Until now, I think only Russia and VN arm forces can worry U.S forces in battle field. China arm forces has Nothing special to compete with U.S-Russia-VN

US may be some paper tiger in mind, they can only bully the smaller opponents and will sh!t their pant when fighting against a stronger opponent with superior technology.

But keep in mind that physically they are still a real maneating tiger, they are now technologically 10 times more superior than they are in the 1970s, there is no way that you can match them in military.

The one that got most of their concern are the one that is closest to them in term of military.

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[manojb]

Bro, where does Indonesia stand on this ?

Chinese companies invest $10 billion in Indonesia - MarketWatch

Indonesia to buy 24 refurbished US F-16 fighters | Reuters


APAC countries have economic interest with china.. for political/militarily they have close ties with USA.. they simply dont want chinese lapdog! This story repeats with all APAC countries

 

[NiceGuy]

US may be some paper tiger in mind, they can only bully the smaller opponents and will sh!t their pant when fighting against a stronger opponent with superior technology.

But keep in mind that physically they are still a real maneating tiger, they are now technologically 10 times more superior than they are in the 1970s, there is no way that you can match them in military.

The one that got most of their concern are the one that is closest to them in term of military.

What is Chinese going to test? | What's happening: Check Space Activities in Google Earth

U.S bullies China too,is it too hard for Chinese to admit that ur Taiwan is under U.S's control?

Basicaly,U.S current weapon tech is just the upgrade after VN war such as military satellite,drone,AWACS,nucler carrier,jet fighter ,jamming system etc nothing has a big different.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

U.S bullies China too,is it too hard for Chinese to admit that ur Taiwan is under U.S's control?

Basicaly,U.S current weapon tech is just the upgrade after VN war such as military satellite,drone,AWACS,nucler carrier,jet fighter ,jamming system etc nothing has a big different.

They are just trying to annoy us, but they don't have the gut to militarily attack us.

All they can do is to destroy us from inside by using those pro-democrazy traitors to overthrow CPC.

The current US military is about information warfare, which is more than two generations ahead of the US military of 1970s.

The 1990s was beginning of the revolutionary upgrade of the US military, that's why they managed to destroy the Iraqi military with ease.

The Iraqi military has far more Mig-29 than Vietnam's Su-27, and far more T-72 main battle tanks, yet they can't even make a scratch to the US military.

 

[Nan Yang]

So poetic

Personally I would sit this one out, unless Japan comes with something huge like Sorry for what we done in WWII.

Also isn't Abe like some WWII denier or something? Supporting him would be a slap in the face.

If it was former Prime Minister Hatoyama that's at least worth a though, least he a respectable person

Soon it will be the 75 anniversary of the Japanese invasion of China. If Japan do not apologize after 75 years they will never apologize.. ever. In another 25 short years it will be the 100 anniversary. By then the rise of China should be complete.
Wonder how the relationship would be like by then.

 

[NiceGuy]

They are just trying to annoy us, but they don't have the gut to militarily attack us.

All they can do is to destroy us from inside by using those pro-democrazy traitors to overthrow CPC.

Oh, U.S gain Nothing when attack your main land coz China is not oil producer like in Middle east or located in the center of ASEAN and having a crucial ship lane passing through like VN. So, controlling TW is enough to contain and bully China already.

China must attack TW to expand its Naval forces and take your territory back but China still seems have No guts to do it .

The current US military is about information warfare, which is more than two generations ahead of the US military of 1970s.

Same with Russia military tech that sold to VN now, S-300 is far better than SAM-2 in 1970s, Su-30 is far better than Mig-17,Mig-21. But those kind of weapons still need smart and well trained soldiers to use them effectively.

The Iraqi military has far more Mig-29 than Vietnam's Su-27, and far more T-72 main battle tanks, yet they can't even make a scratch to the US military.

It depends on how you use the weapons you have. Just like North Korea, China also had Mig-21,SAM-2 during 1970s but you guys couldn't liberate S.K-TW . China used same kind of VN weapon in 1979, but we still pushed PLA back after few weeks of sudden attack.

Our great Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap who lead our army to victory said: "If we fight face to face with US army in battle field ,then we(VN) will be defeated within 2 hours". Iraq, North Korea fought face to face with US without any special tactic, of course they had no chance to win .Same to China in 1979, we used same kind of weapon, but PLA had No special tactic, so even PLA outnumberd to VN forces, but PLA still was pushed back.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Oh, U.S gain Nothing when attack your main land coz China is not oil producer like in Middle east or located in the center of ASEAN and having a crucial ship lane passing through like VN. So, controlling TW is enough to contain and bully China already.

China must attack TW to expand its Naval forces and take your territory back but China still seems have No guts to do it .

Same with Russia military tech that sold to VN now, S-300 is far better than SAM-2 in 1970s, Su-30 is far better than Mig-17,Mig-21. But those kind of weapons still need smart and well trained soldiers to use them effectively.

It depends on how you use the weapons you have. Just like North Korea, China also had Mig-21,SAM-2 during 1970s but you guys couldn't liberate S.K-TW . China used same kind of VN weapon in 1979, but we still pushed PLA back after few weeks of sudden attack.

Our great Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap who lead our army to victory said: "If we fight face to face with US army in battle field ,then we(VN) will be defeated within 2 hours". Iraq, North Korea fought face to face with US without any special tactic, of course they had no chance to win .Same to China in 1979, we used same kind of weapon, but PLA had No special tactic, so even PLA outnumberd to VN forces, but PLA still was pushed back.

lol, we have discovered many land oil fields, but we won't use it right now.

Just like USA, we keep importing the foreign oil, but reserve and untouch our own oil field.

China is a 10 million km^2 giant continental country, even we have 1.35 billion population, yet we still have endless natural resources.

But our economy is based on the manufacturing sector, not the primary sector of selling the natural resources.

USA also has endless of natural resources in their own land, but have you seen they are selling own natural resources to others?

BTW, USA is now stronger than us in the Global scale, but in Asia-Pacific realm they are no match for us, our ASBM troops alone could keep their navy 3000km away from our coastal cities.

The combat radius of their aircrafts is barely 1000km, so they have no chance to scratch our mainland.

 

[NiceGuy]

lol, we have discovered many land oil fields, but we won't use it right now.
Just like USA, we keep importing the foreign oil, but reserve and untouch our own oil field.

China is a 10 million km^2 giant continental country, even we have 1.35 billion population, yet we still have many natural resources.

But our economy is based manufacturing, not the primary sector of selling the natural resources.

USA also has endless of natural resources in their own land, but have you seen they are selling own natural resources to others?

Oki, So, China is rich resource nation , but your population is too high with many poor peasants , US still gain Nothing when attacking ur mainland.

BTW, USA is now stronger than us in the Global scale, but in Asia-Pacific realm they are no match for us, our ASBM troops alone could keep their navy 3000km from our coastal cities.

Ur ASBM never show the real successful test yet, No use to Lie, take back TW to prove it first, dude

The combat radius of their aircrafts is barely 1000km, so they have no chance to scratch our mainland.

There is No interesting things on your mainland that deserve for US to attack.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Ur ASBM never show the real successful test yet, No use to Lie, take back TW to prove it first, dude

Sure, ROC is just a mere bug, we can destroy them at any time, since we already kicked their a$$ back in 64 years ago, it won't be a problem to repeat it again.

But the real problem is, ROC has many relatives in Mainland, many Mainlanders wanna the peaceful unification with TW.

That's why CPC is always treating them nicely, it is not being afraid of them, but to show them pity because their economy keeps getting stagnated.

But the KMT-ROC is always dreaming of overthrowing CPC by using the power of USA and Japan, that's why they just keep backstacking us, we offer them the help, yet they use our money to buy more weapons from USA.

In the East China Sea dispute, they keep secretly siding with Japan and celebrating the birthday of the Japanese Emperor during the 75th anniversary of the Nanjing Massacre.

Their behavior just keeps pissing off many Mainlanders, now with more and more of Mainlanders getting enfuriated, CPC will soon use this populism to accomplish the military unification with Taiwan.

Many Mainlanders were once Pro-ROC, now they all become Pro-PRC and Anti-ROC.

 

[NiceGuy]

Sure, ROC is just a mere bug, we can destroy them at any time, since we already kicked their a$$ back in 64 years ago, it won't be a problem to repeat it again.

But the real problem is, many ROC has many relatives in Mainland, many Mainlanders wanna the peaceful unification with TW.

That's why CPC is always treating them nicely, it is not being afraid of them, but to show them pity because their economy keeps getting stagnated.

But the KMT-ROC is always dreaming of overthrowing CPC by using the power of USA and Japan, that's why they just keep backstacking us, we offer them the help, yet they use our money to buy more weapons from USA.

In East China Sea dispute, they keep secretly siding with Japan and celebrating the birthday of the Japanese Emperor during the 75th anniversary of the Nanjing Massacre.

Their behavior just keep pissing many Mainlanders, now with more and more of Mainlanders getting enfuriated, CPC will soon use this populism to accomplish the military unification with Taiwan.

Many Mainlanders were once Pro-ROC, now they all become Pro-PRC and Anti-ROC.

Before 1975, many North Vnese had relatives in South VN too, and it would never have a so called "peaceful unification", so, no need to lie to us. Just bcz you're too weak to attack TW coz US will support TW to defeat you, that's the main reason why China dare not attack TW untill now

Truth is hurt, but you will grow up when knowing how to admit the Truth

If you keep twisting the Truth like Mr. Ah Q to gain "spiritual victory", then you will end up miserablely like him

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Before 1975, many North Vnese had relatives in South VN too, and it would never have a so called "peaceful unification", so, no need to lie to us. Just bcz you're too weak to attack TW coz US will support TW to defeat you, that's the main reason why China dare not attack TW untill now

Truth is hurt, but you will grow up when knowing how to admit the Truth

If you keep twisting the Truth like Mr. Ah Q to gain "spiritual victory", then you will end up miserablely like him

USA can defeat us in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, but Taiwan is only 180km from us, it will take us no more than 2 days to bring them down, while US needs at least 2 weeks to get the nod from the congress before they can decide to intervene.

 

[Viet]

back to the topic:
As for Vietnam, we stay neutral in the dispute China-Japan. We take a seat and enjoy the show.

USA can defeat us in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, but Taiwan is only 180km from us, it will take us no more than 2 days to bring them down, while US needs at least 2 weeks to get the nod from the congress before they can decide to intervene.

It´s not wise to overestimate yourself. 2 days to defeat Taiwan? 2 weeks for the US to take Congress approval?
I see you are far away from the reality.