As US pulls out of Afghanistan, its weapons head for Pakistan

[Major Sam]

BARS radar 400km su 30 MKI.

My dear goto home. these things are not upto your standard

 

[Rank]

AMRAAMS i am not concerned about,they already have them anyway and will be used only on 60-70 odd f-16s.
Worried about aim-9x,as that improves dogfighting ability of PAF,they currently have no answer to our HOB missiles and this will somewhat alleviate the problem.Also will USA risk aim-9x tech falling in chinese hands?
MLRS-if this is worrying will depend on 2 things-
How many they will get and if its coming with ATCAMS round or dumb rounds.With dumb rounds smerch/a-100 be better.

eek saal huwa nahe Amerkan made weapons use kartay batain usko ***** rahay hain jo pichlay 30/40 saal say Amercian weapons use kar rahay hain lol @ such ******* comment

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

As usual senseless pakistani rant. Python's control surfaces enable it to maneuver like TVC on AIM9X. For your AIM120C5 105km we have R27 127KM and R77 140 -160KM. We have a SPYDER and AKASH missile system as well now. A 100 range is 40 -100km. Smerch too can do 100km.

Pinaka does 60km max actually .

Do you know how stupid you sound? with your wrong facts and lies?

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

As usual senseless pakistani rant. Python's control surfaces enable it to maneuver like TVC on AIM9X. For your AIM120C5 105km we have R27 127KM and R77 140 -160KM. We have a SPYDER and AKASH missile system as well now. A 100 range is 40 -100km. Smerch too can do 100km.

Pinaka does 60km max actually .

Some bad mistakes.
Python has TVC and high off boresight capability as does r-74.
Range of r-27ET is 130 km ,longer than aim-120 C5 but its a semi active missile while aim-120 is fire and forget that has a better advantage.R-27 is comparable to sparrow.
R-77 is 80 km range but fire and forget.AMRAAM has better electronics than r-77 or r-27.
Smerch max range is around 70-90 km though it has a better anti tank submunition.

 

[karan.1970]

My dear, just take rest.. which having diarrhea. if nothing gonna happen to india then why bothering to reply here. let us be happy on this charity.

For rest of my friends who are making a big deal out of this..

 

[Major Sam]

Some bad mistakes.
Python has TVC and high off boresight capability as does r-74.
Range of r-27ET is 130 km ,longer than aim-120 C5 but its a semi active missile while aim-120 is fire and forget that has a better advantage.R-27 is comparable to sparrow.
R-77 is 80 km range but fire and forget.AMRAAM has better electronics than r-77 or r-27.
Smerch max range is around 70-90 km though it has a better anti tank submunition.

thanks for explaining to your fellow indian brothers @klub

For rest of my friends who are making a big deal out of this..

ghey just need better sleep buddy

 

[klub]

thanks for explaining to your fellow indian brothers @klub



ghey just need better sleep buddy

still we have a 400km radar. first sight first kill.

Do you know how stupid you sound? with your wrong facts and lies?

check your sources even m270 does 90km. a100 and smerch do 100km. 400km radar gives first sight ability.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

still we have a 400km radar. first sight first kill.



check your sources even m270 does 90km. a100 and smerch do 100km. 400km radar gives first sight ability.

Check yours again..

Pinaka has a max range of 40 km.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=L0ZJnyP9vKC2GTkiRDc4tQ&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWM

KRL-122 MLRS: 45KM+

R-27... can only be used at much shorter ranges at head-on engagements,is a semi active missile... in short inferior to AMRAAMs.

R-77... 50km :

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=BcuC8kRB4hmBC4_E3zhxBQ&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWM

Smerch: 90-100Km..

Upgraded PHL-03 used by Pakistan: over 150KM.

Also which 400km radar are you talking about? anyways.. Pak uses several such radars... a example: AN/TPS-77 with range in excess of 450.616 kms..

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Some bad mistakes.
Python has TVC and high off boresight capability as does r-74.
Range of r-27ET is 130 km ,longer than aim-120 C5 but its a semi active missile while aim-120 is fire and forget that has a better advantage.R-27 is comparable to sparrow.
R-77 is 80 km range but fire and forget.AMRAAM has better electronics than r-77 or r-27.
Smerch max range is around 70-90 km though it has a better anti tank submunition.

Yaara we still dnt know tht.. we discusses it and the discussion yielded no results... u ended up posting wikipedia .. than came.. no thermobaric muntions are so on... so lets not talk abt it..

 

[klub]

Check yours again..

Pinaka has a max range of 40 km.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=L0ZJnyP9vKC2GTkiRDc4tQ&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWM

KRL-122 MLRS: 45KM+

R-27... can only be used at much shorter ranges at head-on engagements in short inferior to AMRAAMs.

R-77... 50km :

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=BcuC8kRB4hmBC4_E3zhxBQ&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWM

Smerch: 90-100Km..

Upgraded PHL-03 used by Pakistan: over 150KM.

Also which 400km radar are you talking about? anyways.. Pak uses several such radars... a example: AN/TPS-77 with range in excess of 450.616 kms..

Sigh a 400km radar called NO11BARS PESA used by IAF on sukhoi.

If so shame as A 100 was developed from PHL 03. A 100 gives 100km range so do the math genius.

PHL03 - Chinese development of PHL96. Only very limited number of PHL96 entered Chinese service because its successor PHL03, soon entered service shorter after. PHL03 is a highly digitized PHL96 with computerized fire control system (FCS), and the crew is increased to 4 from the original of 3 of BM-30/PHL96, entering service around 2004-2005,[17] only a year or two after its predecessor PHL96. The FCS of PHL03 incorporates and GPS/GLONASS, similar to that of Type 90A SPMRL. As with its predecessor PHL96, strictly speaking, PHL03 is not exactly a guided SPMRL because like PHL96, PHL03 does not have any guided rocket, and the guidance was achieved via sub-munitions.

AR-1 - Chinese development of PHL03. This is actually the first model in among the Chinese versions of BM-30 SPMRL that is a truly guided rocket system in that the rocket itself is guided by a simple primitive cascade inertial terminal guidance used on WS series SPMRL, which became standard for later Chinese versions. Russia had already developed a guided version of BM-30 with mid-course radio command guidance to immediately correct the error in the flight of the rocket once detected by the ballistic tracking radar, but this was not adopted due to financial constraints.[18] Unconfirmed Chinese internet sources have claimed that when China negotiated the license production right in 2008, this guided design was also purchased, but such claims has yet to be verified by official or independent sources.

AR-1A (A-100E) - Chinese development of AR-1. A 10 round version of AR-1, with 2 launching boxes each containing 5 expandable launching tubes. Once rockets are launched, the entire launch box is replaced, instead of individually reloading each tube in earlier version, thus greatly reducing the time to reload.

pinaka you're right 40km my bad, 60km is v2.0.


R 77

Strongly varying according to source:
R-77:40 km (21.6 nm)[1] - 50 km (27 nm)[2] - 80 km (43.2 nm)[3]
R-77M1:60 km (32.4 nm)[1] - 80 km (43.2 nm)[4] - 160 km (86 nm)

R-27R: up to 80 km
R-27T: up to 70 km
R-27ER: up to 130 km
R-27ET: up to 120 km
R-27EP: up to 130km

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Sigh a 400km radar called NO11BARS PESA used by IAF on sukhoi.

@AUSTERLITZ teach him the basic bruh..


If so shame as A 100 was developed from PHL 03. A 100 gives 100km range so do the math genius.

PHL03 - Chinese development of PHL96. Only very limited number of PHL96 entered Chinese service because its successor PHL03, soon entered service shorter after. PHL03 is a highly digitized PHL96 with computerized fire control system (FCS), and the crew is increased to 4 from the original of 3 of BM-30/PHL96, entering service around 2004-2005,[17] only a year or two after its predecessor PHL96. The FCS of PHL03 incorporates and GPS/GLONASS, similar to that of Type 90A SPMRL. As with its predecessor PHL96, strictly speaking, PHL03 is not exactly a guided SPMRL because like PHL96, PHL03 does not have any guided rocket, and the guidance was achieved via sub-munitions.

AR-1 - Chinese development of PHL03. This is actually the first model in among the Chinese versions of BM-30 SPMRL that is a truly guided rocket system in that the rocket itself is guided by a simple primitive cascade inertial terminal guidance used on WS series SPMRL, which became standard for later Chinese versions. Russia had already developed a guided version of BM-30 with mid-course radio command guidance to immediately correct the error in the flight of the rocket once detected by the ballistic tracking radar, but this was not adopted due to financial constraints.[18] Unconfirmed Chinese internet sources have claimed that when China negotiated the license production right in 2008, this guided design was also purchased, but such claims has yet to be verified by official or independent sources.

AR-1A (A-100E) - Chinese development of AR-1. A 10 round version of AR-1, with 2 launching boxes each containing 5 expandable launching tubes. Once rockets are launched, the entire launch box is replaced, instead of individually reloading each tube in earlier version, thus greatly reducing the time to reload.

We go the guided version further updraded AR-1A version... with 12 tubes.. and the range of basic PLH-03 is 150:


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=H6YQwES5LxUg6bg4RUKvPA&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWc


In Pak service... we locally produce it:

pinaka you're right 40km my bad, 60km is v2.0.

V2 is still "planned"...

R 77

Strongly varying according to source:
R-77:40 km (21.6 nm)[1] - 50 km (27 nm)[2] - 80 km (43.2 nm)[3]
R-77M1:60 km (32.4 nm)[1] - 80 km (43.2 nm)[4] - 160 km (86 nm)

Lol.. no R-77 has 160KM range.. its between 50-80km at max.. and the ones you got were faulty aswell... here are sources.. both indian and russian:

14.09.11

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=76dxBy2sQ1T2YLOLiimcyg&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWc


And here is from FAS claiming it to be 50km:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=Fse1cX_j6slBBvTB-T8wmw&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWc

R-27R: up to 80 km
R-27T: up to 70 km
R-27ER: up to 130 km
R-27ET: up to 120 km
R-27EP: up to 130km

Again this missile has a poor record... google abt eritean-ethiopian 1999 war...

 

[gslv mk3]

Also which 400km radar are you talking about? anyways.. Pak uses several such radars... a example: AN/TPS-77 with range in excess of 450.616 kms..

Sword Fish LRTR

 

[klub]

@AUSTERLITZ teach him the basic bruh..


If so shame as A 100 was developed from PHL 03. A 100 gives 100km range so do the math genius.



We go the guided version further updraded AR-1A version... with 12 tubes.. and the range of basic PLH-03 is 150:


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=H6YQwES5LxUg6bg4RUKvPA&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWc


In Pak service... we locally produce it:

V2 is still "planned"...



Lol.. no R-77 has 160KM range.. its between 50-80km at max.. and the ones you got were faulty aswell... here are sources.. both indian and russian:

14.09.11

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=76dxBy2sQ1T2YLOLiimcyg&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWc


And here is from FAS claiming it to be 50km:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=Fse1cX_j6slBBvTB-T8wmw&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWc




Again this missile has a poor record... google abt eritean-ethiopian 1999 war...

Heh as usual. The source ITSELF says it's most likely upto 100km. FAIL! .

An IAF R77 sent your f16 on the run in Kargil. With a 400km radar for a2a and 160km missile we'll ensure IAF aerial domination from day 1. The ones we use are retrofitted with improvements.

 

[HAIDER]

M270 going Israel . Don t know all of them or part.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Yaara we still dnt know tht.. we discusses it and the discussion yielded no results... u ended up posting wikipedia .. than came.. no thermobaric muntions are so on... so lets not talk abt it..

U also posted a wrong data on r-77 50 km.Its head on engagement range is 80 km rather.
As for smerch at least there was something,i still didn't figure out why the whole article would be telling the truth and then lie about this small bit?
As for radars he could be talking about the modified green pine radars or the elta aerostats.As for india's basic ground based radar system.

1]''The forward radar picket lines at the border usually 150 km back comprise one ST-68/U and two P-18/-19 radars.Both are russian origin.And supported by 2 P-12/-15 radars.

The ST-68/U is known by NATO as the Tin Shield radar and has a maximum range of some 217 miles (350km). It is optimised for the detection of low-flying aircraft and cruise missiles employing electronic countermeasures (ECM).This acts as command and reporting centre''.
However old p-18/p-19/p-12 are soviet era and despite respectable detection range dated.

2]India has been producing the French-designed TRS-2215D 3-D surveillance radar under licence for a number of years and has derived from that an indigenously built radar - PSM-33 Mk 2. This has supplanted most of the older Soviet-bloc equipment. The TRS-2215D and PSM-33 Mk.2 have surveillance ranges of up to 317 (510km) with a peak power output of 660-700kW operating in the E/F bands and possess a very significant ECCM capability.

3]A number of Air Defence Control Centres (ADCCs) are located behind the radar picket line. The radar picket line and the ADCC are separated by a layer of air defence weapons which are the first to engage the intruders. The backbone of the Indian Air Defence Ground Environment system is the huge THD-1955 3-D long-range surveillance radar that was once in widespread use throughout NATO. This radar, originally of French design, has been licence-built in India for a number of years. This E/F-band radar, though somewhat elderly, still offers sterling performance characteristics and is capable of maximum detection ranges of up to 620 miles (1,000km), though the Indian Air Force usually limits its power to a 250 miles (400km) detection range. These form the core of the ADCCs. The THD-1955 has a peak operating power of up to 20MW, though its normal operating power is usually 2MW. The radar has comprehensive ECM/ECCM capabilities and has no real detection altitude limitation.

The IAF uses extensive microwave communications systems and mobile digital troposcatter terminals. Like the ADGES, the BADZ consists of three layers. The first of these are the mobile observation posts, followed by a mixed layer of weapons and their associated radars, along with a picket line of low-level radars. These are, in turn, supported by anti-aircraft artillery batteries. This network is controlled by a ST68U radar, supported by other radars such as the TRS-2215D and the PSM-33. Low-level detection gaps are filled by the Indian-made Indra-1 radar which has a range of 30 miles (50km). The BADZ provides comprehensive and gapfree coverage over its assigned area of responsibility. Some observers have likened the BADZ set-up to the defence pattern of a carrier battle group. Any aircraft attacking a vital military target, therefore, not only has to get past the ADGES, but also the far more formidable BADZ.
The AA guns are radar directed by a mix of licence-made 'Flycatcher' and 'Super Fledermaus' and the indigenous 'PIW-519' radars. The 'Super Fledermaus', though ageing, has been extensively upgraded and now represents a very capable tracking radar with significant capability against difficult, low-flying targets such as cruise missiles. The upgraded radar has a range of 56 miles (90km) and is fitted with a new digital fire control computer. In addition, licence-built Dutch 'Reporter' radars are used for low-level target detection. This system has a range of 25 miles (40km) and can track up to 20 targets simultaneously.

The phalcon AWACS system has a detection range of roughly 217-248 miles (350-400km) and can handle at least 200 targets simultaneously.

Newly introduced are Central Acquisition Radar/ROHINI, a state of the art planar array S-Band radar operating on the stacked beam principle. With a range of 180 km, it can track while scan 200 fighter sized targets. Its systems are integrated on high mobility, locally built TATRA trucks for the Army and Air Force; however it is meant to be used by all three services. Initially developed for the long-running Akash SAM system, seven were ordered by the Indian Air Force for their radar modernization program and two of another variant were ordered by the Indian Navy for their P-28 Corvettes.

2D Low Level Lightweight Radar (LLLR) for the Indian Army, which requires many of these units for gapfilling in mountainous terrain. The Indian Air Force will also acquire then for key airbases. The LLLR is a 2D radar with a range of 40 km against a 2 square meter target, intended as a gapfiller to plug detection gaps versus low level aircraft in an integrated Air Defence Ground network. The LLLR makes use of Indra-2 technology, namely a similar antenna array, but has roughly half the range and is much smaller and a far more portable unit. The LLLR can track while scan 100 targets and provide details about their speed, azimuth and range to the operator. The LLLR makes use of the BFSR-SR experience and many of the subsystem providers are the same. Multiple LLLRs can be networked together. The LLLR is meant to detect low level intruders, and will alert Army Air Defence fire control units to cue their weapon systems