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As US pulls out of Afghanistan, its weapons head for Pakistan

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He is talking about Humveee... No we don't need... infact only Arabs are capable to handle that expensive machine.. spares... many thing expensive maintaince etc... more important ... Fuel consumption of humvee is tooo much...
 
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EXCLUSIVE : As US pulls out of Afghanistan, its weapons head for Pakistan

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With the United States all set to withdraw from Afghanistan, alarm bells have begun to ring in New Delhi as reports indicate that a lot of arms being used by the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) could end up with the Pakistani military.

The last time Pakistan received advanced weapons from the Americans in the 1980s, it led to the eruption of a terrorism movement in Kashmir. It is understood that New Delhi’s concerns have been communicated to US vice president Joe Biden who was on a state visit here last month.

India’s security establishment has been receiving steady reports that a large consignment of advanced arms is being claimed by Pakistan. On the cards are large consignments of night vision devices, sniper rifles, laser target designators for the Pakistan Air Force and counter-IED equipment. But what has alarmed New Delhi is a move by Pakistan to get weapon systems that don’t have anything to do with counter-terrorism.

Reports indicate that the United States is considering handing over AMRAAM air-to-air and sidewinder missiles as well as M-270 multiple launch rocket systems. It is believed that since these could come under strict export controls, the weapon systems will be first handed over to a friendly third country, which, in turn, will hand them over to Pakistan. While India has expressed its concern over transfer of such weapon systems, the United States has been non-committal to New Delhi on the issue.

Indian analysts believe that this is a worrying development but needs to be handled with maturity and not alarm. Washington is committed to resuming military aid to Pakistan under the Pakistan Counter Terrorism Fund (PCF) and the Pakistan Counter-Terrorism Capability Fund (PCCF). “Some of this equipment in Afghanistan could fall under either category setting it off against the committed value of aid already authorised by US Congress,” says Rana Banerji, former special secretary with R&AW and a noted Pakistan expert. “Both the Pakistan Army and the US want to repair the relationship which went sharply downhill after the Raymond Davis Affair in January 2011.” According to him, the visit by US secretary of state John Kerry could be a major resumption of a strategic dialogue between the United States and Pakistan.

Former ambassador to Afghanistan Vivek Katju is also circumspect about the developments. “Things have changed significantly since the 1980s and our conventional superiority against Pakistan is quite impressive. So if they get some weapons, it is worrying but we should not react without getting to understand the mechanics of any deal to transfer weapons.” According to Katju, the United States needs Pakistan desperately to ensure a peaceful withdrawal from Afghanistan next year. “The role of Pakistan is critical and in Pakistan the military is critical. So Washington needs to engage the military and keep them happy. This could be one such move,” he told dna.

Link - dna exclusive: As US pulls out of Afghanistan, its weapons head for Pakistan - India - DNA

sounds like nonsense....even night vision goggles were issued and then restocked after return from the field .....and these are non lethal weapons.....the F16s in the latest purchase are strictly controlled they can only be used against north wziristan etc and nowhere else,,and finally the US in not leaving they are just decreasing the persense so that ANA can take over the main grunt jobs....the US wlll still ahve regulars, speacial forces and trained para militaries to keep the bozos in check..the pk will not be trusted and should not be trustet to serve the US intersts....
 
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You reckon , AMRAAMs and AIM-9X are NOT a concern from the IAF's perspective,especially when ALL of PAF F-16s are being upgraded to integrate Block-52 avionics,radar, JHMCS - all of whom will be integrated with EriEye AESA AWACS. ?

u sure??....
 
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Something our Indian friends are very good at.

AMRAAMs, AIM-9X and M-270 can be a critical deterrent against the Indian aggression which they are hoping to carry out as part of the cold start doctrine. M-270 & A-100 MBRLs are the best MRBLs on the market right now, AMRAAMs, and AIM-9X will dramatically improve PAF F-16's and JF-17s [If AIM-9Xs are integrated on them] air combat capability.


then these AMRAAM will be Aim-120&Bs and Aim-9P/L and other series of missile other than the latest 9Xs ones...
So are you worried about the older missiles...
 
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I was hoping for a few dozen attack helos :(

ya US handover STATE OF THE ART helicopters to Pakistan Army take a look



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We don't need these.... They are EXTREMELY Expensive, Hard to Maintain, Expensive maintaince and required big infrastructure, Required Life-Time-Upgradation, Expensive Spare Parts and dependency....

Most probably Humvees and MRAPs would be divided in 50-50 for Afghan and Pakistan Forces.

But I was always wondering that as USA Military is not liking the Humvees and have developed MRAPs then why not the just give for free all of its Humvees to IRAQ, Afghanistan and Pakistan Military???

Only seniors should answer it.
 
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ya US handover STATE OF THE ART helicopters to Pakistan Army take a look



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Not to worry, we will arm it as well......even if it takes us 10 years :)
 
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Most probably Humvees and MRAPs would be divided in 50-50 for Afghan and Pakistan Forces.

But I was always wondering that as USA Military is not liking the Humvees and have developed MRAPs then why not the just give for free all of its Humvees to IRAQ, Afghanistan and Pakistan Military???

Only seniors should answer it.

Actually might be US will offer but the ball goes to the handler .... are we interested or not?

Suppose if we will get Humvee/MRAPs free of cost what next? What about the spares? long-term deal required btw US for the spares/Parts. Secondly according to my information like many of my friends have/used to/had this Humvee machine in Pakistan. They always talking about the High0-Fuel-Consumption of this big-bore-piston.

You need $$ for the fuel extra in your expensive for using these machines. If you'r interested in Humvee/MRAPs. Another problem with this is Infrastructure. If you get 100 - 200 - 300 of such numbers free of cost than you need big infrastructure/engineers/proper maintance department. Like for example if you don't have mechanics for suppose ABCD Car you have few options in your hand. One is to send your people for the training or outsource? or leave that car... same apply at this situation. Or you can spend $$ send your people for the training for learning about the mechanics/dynamix/technical training about these machines. Second option is t he Outsrouce which is not ever suitable in military perspective. At last you leave to think about that machine.

We have Vigo in small numbers under used by SSG special Forces groups rest of Nissan, Mitsubishi and Toyota picksup. Easy to maintained, less expensive spareparts, Any kind of parts available you can easily change On-The-Spot!

So if either Humvee available for free it doesn't mean you will go for Humveee...

Example set on both MRAPs or Humvee

Still I though MRAPS are good... we need but with long-term spare/maintaince/infra 50 o 50% infrastructure built deal with the USA.
 
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Actually might be US will offer but the balls goes to the handler .... are we interested or not?

Suppose if we will get Humvee/MRAPs free of cost what next? What about the spares? long-term deal required btw US for the spares/Parts. Secondly according to my information like many of my friends have/used to/had this Humvee machine in Pakistan. They always talking about the High0-Fuel-Consumption of this big-bore-piston.

You need $$ for the fuel extra in your expensive for using these machines. If you'r interested in Humvee/MRAPs. Another problem with this is Infrastructure. If you get 100 - 200 - 300 of such numbers free of cost than you need big infrastructure/engineers/proper maintance department. Like for example if you don't have mechanics for suppose ABCD Car you have few options in your hand. One is to send your people for the training or outsource? or leave that car... same apply at this situation. Or you can spend $$ send your people for the training for learning about the mechanics/dynamix/technical training about these machines. Second option is t he Outsrouce which is not ever suitable in military perspective. At last you leave to think about that machine.

We have Vigo in small numbers under used by SSG special Forces groups rest of Nissan, Mitsubishi and Toyota picksup. Easy to maintained, less expensive spareparts, Any kind of parts available you can easily change On-The-Spot!

So if either Humvee available for free it doesn't mean you will go for Humveee...

Example set on both MRAPs or Humvee

Still I though MRAPS are good... we need but with long-term spare/maintaince/infra 50 o 50% infrastructure built deal with the USA.

But if the free deals include the training and Spares production in Pakistan then???
 
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But if the free deals include the training and Spares production in Pakistan then???

Nothing is free for country like Pakistan :). If we suppose as you said "Free deals include Training & spare" then maybe chances.... as @Pulsar said... Yes Pakistani Military either Army or Airforce love American Weapons infact I too :P
 
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