Army General GD Bakshi's speech equated to 'hate-mongering' by IIT-Madras student

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

That is interesting.

That is not what Bakshi said. He said that his generation dismembered Pakistan, severed it into two pieces, and that this generation should severe Pakistan into four pieces. There was no needling, no provocation, no absence of bad intentions, just a call to impressionable young students to work for the dismemberment of a neighbouring country.

I think you are generalizing here- He was taking about Pakistan- and not neighboring country which can be Bangladesh, Myanmar, Srilanka etc- Why was he talking about Pakistan-

 

[Stephen Cohen]

oK.. tHaNkU.. cOmE aGaIn...

But you ARE NOT welcome

@Joe Shearer

Please come on NDTV and support Barkha dutt

She is feeling quite low these days after Arnab whipped her A**

 

[911]

If LUMS invites hafeez sayeed and he proceeds to exhort the students to break up India... and one student writes a strongly worded letter to LUMS admin calling it hate speech, will it be intolerance?
the right thing to do for IIT admin is to dissociate themselves from what the honorable gentleman said... if a student says it, its different, its part of different voices in the campus... a guest of honour saying it seems to be an official endorsement(which it is not am sure).

Only a moron will compare a retired Indian army officer to a terrorist. Just to add, Pakistani Army officer in charge has called for disintegration of India many times.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

But there is, calling a decorated officer, who has nothing to do with fascism as a fascist, being unable to tolerate his views to classify him into a category of political ideology that is completely opposite to the one he signed up to give his life for.

Please do explain to me how is his opinion fascist.

I would consider him a fascist If he talked about race supremacy and taking over the world- capturing Britain for example for all the troubles they gave us- or to take Kohinoor by sending a Naval Armada- I fail to understand why he should be fascist If he talks about offensive defense against Pakistan- Which is a military strategy- If he is fascist then we all are especially the generation which oversaw the 71 war and made sure about the things as It is now WRT Pakistan-

 

[Nilgiri]

I suspect your only participation in PDF is to police around and pick random emotional posts by Indians (@ranjeet) and issue negative ratings... Is it so..?? I think you are reserve bank of negative ratings in PDF.. Have you got any negatives for me today.??
PS : @Nilgiri, @Rajaraja Chola Indha segappunthundu pakki panra lollu over ah irukku..

Don't poke the bear buddy

 

[livingdead]

Only a moron will compare a retired Indian army officer to a terrorist. Just to add, Pakistani Army officer in charge has called for disintegration of India many times.

i was not comparing.. I was asking 'will that be intolerance'?... plus its unbecoming of a gentleman to talk language of a terrorist...
The speech is probably more apt in MIT(Muzaffarpur Institute of Technology) than IIT...

 

[Stephen Cohen]

i was not comparing.. I was asking 'will that be intolerance'?... plus its unbecoming of a gentleman to talk language of a terrorist...

No it is NOT

It is letting the enemies know that Two can play this game

Also it is necessary to Inform ; inspire and motivate the Youth of India
about India's security threats and challenges and the need to confront the ENEMY

The speech is probably more apt in MIT(Muzaffarpur Institute of Technology) than IIT...

That job will be done by Sanjeev Baliyan and Yogi Adityanath

Horses for Courses

 

[livingdead]

No it is NOT

It is letting the enemies know that Two can play this game

Also it is necessary to Inform ; inspire and motivate the Youth of India
about India's security threats and challenges and need to confront the ENEMY

sure.. its equivalent of saying 'hey pakistanis, you think you are tough, see how I punch my nose... this should send you a signal that we can do as much self harm as you can do'...

 

[Stephen Cohen]

sure.. its equivalent of saying 'hey pakistanis, you think you are tough, see how I punch my nose... this should send you a signal that we can do as much self harm than you can do'...

Do us a favour ; Remove that INDIAN flag below your User ID

And put your real flag for once

What lies in your HEART must be seen by ALL

 

[livingdead]

Do us a favour ; Remove that INDIAN flag below your User ID

And put your real flag for once

What lies in your HEART must be seen by ALL

I did not put the flags, mods did.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

Yes. I deny this. It was not the Indian intention to wage war with Pakistan, not until the impact of 10 million refugees fell upon us, along with the possibility of a disaster of major proportions. Every thing that happened thereafter was forced upon us. It was not, as jingos like you proclaim, a triumphant vindication of the RSS thinking about Pakistan.

You can sure be under denial but facts don't deny the help India provided- from ideological backing to AK47 shipments, and Soviet help from KGB, India was there much before the refugee crisis-

 

[Stephen Cohen]

@hinduguy @Joe Shearer

Compared to Arnab Goswami ; Major General Bakshi is VERY polite and SOFT spoken

When Arnab is the MOST Viewed and loved News Anchor
you should UNDERSTAND that INDIA HAS CHANGED

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

i was not comparing.. I was asking 'will that be intolerance'?... plus its unbecoming of a gentleman to talk language of a terrorist...
The speech is probably more apt in MIT(Muzaffarpur Institute of Technology) than IIT...

What is "Muzaffarpur Institute of Technology" ? why would you say such thing ?

 

[Stephen Cohen]

What is "Muzaffarpur Institute of Technology" ? why would you say such thing ?

What he meant was IIT Madras has been DEVALUED because a Retired Major General
gave a PEP talk to students

 

[Joe Shearer]

(3) No. It is what he is, judging by his views. Unless his views are divergent from the ideology of fascism, and he has nevertheless been accused of being a fascist, it can hardly be 'intolerance' to call him a fascist.
It would be sound, however, if someone holding fascist views were called fascist, and then, a call is made to hang all fascists due to their holding views that happen to be fascist.

How ? no where in is past rhetoric has he suggested a martial government composed of the members of the governing totalitarian one-party state—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society. That is the fundamental philosophy of Fascism. At best he is has an opinion on tackling Pakistan, it may be wrong, but he has the right to express his opinion. And his views are divergent to the philosophy of fascism, this man has served all his life under the command of the president on the Indian democracy. His actions speak louder than his words towards his conviction to the constitution of the Sovereign Socialist Secular Democratic Republic. Solet me ask you, would labeling Gen Bakshi - as a fascist constitute as slander?

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/army-gen...it-madras-student.443827/page-5#ixzz4H92Hx7F3

https://defence.pk/threads/army-gen...it-madras-student.443827/page-5#ixzz4H92Hx7F3

I thought you had no dog in this race.

If that is your definition of fascism, neither Hitler nor Mussolini is eligible; they did not set up a martial government. They did set up totalitarian one-party governments for the forging of national unity and maintenance of stable and orderly society. The two regimes were so different, and those in turn were so different from the Spanish or from the Romanians or the Hungarians that it is difficult to contemplate a Fascist Internationale. Yet they all recognised that they were akin; and the world recognised it too.

One wonders whether your line of argument will land up in excluding all those who do not articulate the fascist credo at some point or the other. This is difficult to believe, as there is no clear, precisely defined credo. The phrasing you have used is, like all others, a distillation from the acts and practices of the fascist. What, then, is your defence of General Bakshi based on, that he never at one place mentioned precisely those features that your 'definition' uses?

Incidentally, Hitler's entire military career was under the German Reich, imperial Germany. What difference did that make? In what way does General Bakshi's service under the President and as a soldier of a democracy dilute his views?