Arjun News & Discussions

[Abingdonboy]

ok guys i think the success of smooth bore or rifle gun's success depends on fire control system i guess.

And the Arjun family has the best in the business!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Also i wonder why arjun mk-1 doesnt fire missiles... but im sure mk-2 probably would..

 

[BDforever]

And the Arjun family has the best in the business!

can you compare it with MBT2000 ? need to know the difference

And the Arjun family has the best in the business!

i like K-2 and Altay tank most

 

[Abingdonboy]

can you compare it with MBT2000 ? need to know the difference

Dude, I'm going to stick to the Arjun as this is the "ARJUN news and discussion" thread and I don't want to invite trolling or provoke anyone. The Arjun is what it is and has a loooong way to go.



All I will say it that on all counts it is up there with the best MBTs on the planet- end of story as far as I'm concerned.


I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/95660-arjun-mark-ii-israeli-view-must-read.html


TRISHUL: Orders Placed For Arjun Mk1A MBT’s Vectronics Suite

Read through the above links and watch the video and tell me what you think.

 

[BDforever]

@Abingdonboy i liked the video, thanks for sharing

 

[livingdead]

@Abingdonboy i liked the video, thanks for sharing

he is a DRDO fanboy..

 

[S-DUCT]

Arjun Tank Mk II Containerised Ammunition Bin and Blow Off Panel approved

New Delhi: A Containerised Ammunition Bin with Individual Shutters (CABIS) and Blow Off Panel (BOP) has been developed for the Arjun Tank Mk II, a DRDO project for the Indian Army. The ammunition compartment for the Arjun Tank Mk 1 is enclosed on all sides except the front for retrieving of ammunition by the loader. In case of ammunition burning in the ready round bin compartment, the crew’s life was at risk. DRDO scientists have now isolated the round bin with CABIS.

Workable even at 30 degree gradient, the modular CABIS has been designed with individual shutters and stowage tubes mounted in a frame compartment of Arjun MBT. The individual Shutter secures each ammunition in the 10 round ammunition compartment through double plunger locking and can be operated with a simple lever and slider crank mechanism. A retention system on top row holds the shutter in horizontal position. It operates defect free at desert’s dusty environment and can handle load exerted due to propellant burning.

The BOP relieves excessive pressure and opening is provided on the roof plate compartment. It has two panels which are mounted on an intermediate frame at both ends with special screws along the breadth side of the panels. It creates hogging effect leading to blow-off if pressure builds in the compartment. When panels are flexed, the mounting screws bend displacing one or both panels.

Three trials were conducted with 10 FSAPDS rounds; 5 FSAPDS and 5 live HESH rounds in random; and 8 inert HESH and 1 live HESH round respectively in te stowage tube of CABIS system. After 1st trial, a spill over of NQM/119 propellant granuels were noticed and a mesh was added below the BOP to eliminate it.

The trial evaluation and demonstration of CABIS with BOP met the intended requirements and the user has approved the system to be integrated in the Arjun MBT MK II. The system is currently under trials with the Army along with other improvements meant for Arjun Tank MK II

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Arjun is by all means a formidable tank,currently it has 2 flaws.
1]Gunner's sight is in front of turret,this creates a gap in the armour integrity.
2]Need better APSFSDS ammo with tungsten or DU core not soft core and long rod penetrator.Suspicion on how ell new APSFSDS round can be used with rifled gun,instead of smoothbore.

Main advantages are superb kanchan armour and deadly power and accuracy of rifled tank gun[advantage of rifled guns].Other upgardes like APS,better engine,LAHAT,new thermal viewer are coming with mk2 anyway.

 

[hurt]

Arjun is by all means a formidable tank,currently it has 2 flaws.
1]Gunner's sight is in front of turret,this creates a gap in the armour integrity.
2]Need better APSFSDS ammo with tungsten or DU core not soft core and long rod penetrator.Suspicion on how ell new APSFSDS round can be used with rifled gun,instead of smoothbore.

Main advantages are superb kanchan armour and deadly power and accuracy of rifled tank gun[advantage of rifled guns].Other upgardes like APS,better engine,LAHAT,new thermal viewer are coming with mk2 anyway.

Arjun is by all means a formidable tank,currently it has 2 flaws.

1]Gunner's sight is in front of turret,this creates a gap in the armour integrity.
Armor
2]Need better APSFSDS ammo with tungsten or DU core not soft core and long rod penetrator.Suspicion on how ell new APSFSDS round can be used with rifled gun,instead of smoothbore.
GUN

Plz tell me formidable point

 

[Beerbal]

Arjun Tank Mk II Containerised Ammunition Bin and Blow Off Panel approved

I saw this feature on M1Abarams.. It is good feature...

 

[Beerbal]

Dude, I'm going to stick to the Arjun as this is the "ARJUN news and discussion" thread and I don't want to invite trolling or provoke anyone. The Arjun is what it is and has a loooong way to go.



All I will say it that on all counts it is up there with the best MBTs on the planet- end of story as far as I'm concerned.


I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/95660-arjun-mark-ii-israeli-view-must-read.html


TRISHUL: Orders Placed For Arjun Mk1A MBT’s Vectronics Suite

Read through the above links and watch the video and tell me what you think.

IA immediately give order of 1000 Arjuna Tank , IA can use 50-50 mix of Arjuna and T90 on western front...

 

[Beerbal]

i do not know much about other systems, just found one weakness Arjun uses rifle gun which has less accuracy than smooth bore gun.

Because it is Indian it is weak??? Do you know why rifled bore was developed? Have you ever thought why Rifle (Type of gun) are better than other guns? Have you ever thought of why grooves are cut into rifle bore???

Discovery channel has beautiful documentary on evolution of gun, I will suggest you to see that...

@missile firing capability: Smoothbore can do it easily, while rifled gun need special bearing assembly around projectile... and yes Arjuna is capable to fire missiles...

 

[Yogi]

Also i wonder why arjun mk-1 doesnt fire missiles... but im sure mk-2 probably would..

Mk1 can fire LAHAT missile also an Indian missle similar to LAHAT is also under development n will be facing trials soon.

@Abingdonboy can u plz clarify a bit more...

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Arjun is by all means a formidable tank,currently it has 2 flaws.

1]Gunner's sight is in front of turret,this creates a gap in the armour integrity.
Armor
2]Need better APSFSDS ammo with tungsten or DU core not soft core and long rod penetrator.Suspicion on how ell new APSFSDS round can be used with rifled gun,instead of smoothbore.
GUN

Plz tell me formidable point

A) Thats i not gunner, thats driver and every tank has this. check your tank also , manual vision facility is available when camera is not functioning.

B) The huge smoothbore cannon fired HEAT rounds that could kill any T-72 with a single shot.
moreover , Armed with a 120 mm rifled gun, the Arjun is believed to be capable of firing APFSDS (Kinetic Energy) rounds, HE, HEAT, High Explosive Squash Head (HESH) rounds at the rate of 6-8 rounds per minute and the Israeli developed semi-active laser guided LAHAT missile.

But India didnt choose because Rounds are expensive and india dont have luxury. for PAK these ammunitions are enough.

We dont need to through mountain to kill a cockroach when it can get killed by slippers.

 

[hurt]

A) Thats i not gunner, thats driver and every tank has this. check your tank also , manual vision facility is available when camera is not functioning.

B) The huge smoothbore cannon fired HEAT rounds that could kill any T-72 with a single shot.
moreover , Armed with a 120 mm rifled gun, the Arjun is believed to be capable of firing APFSDS (Kinetic Energy) rounds, HE, HEAT, High Explosive Squash Head (HESH) rounds at the rate of 6-8 rounds per minute and the Israeli developed semi-active laser guided LAHAT missile.

But India didnt choose because Rounds are expensive and india dont have luxury. for PAK these ammunitions are enough.

We dont need to through mountain to kill a cockroach when it can get killed by slippers.

But there is no T-72 in other Country around India.
HEAT cant kill a tank cover with Reactive armour like Al-Zarrar.
You only want it fight with Type 69?