Arjun-II MBT development l Updates & discussion.

[Dazzler]

MY LORD THAT ARJUN LOOKS POWERFUL

one side fully exposed to enemy fire, whats so powerful about partial protection?

120mm thermobaric + fragmentation round for Arjun being tested.

thermobaric rounds are good for concentrations and fortifications, but not against mechanized armour. For that you need to have good penetrators. Something IA badly lacks.

 

[indianwhistleblower]

Sad,Arjun is not yet ready and is too heavy for our bridges to support!

 

[NKVD]

Sad,Arjun is not yet ready and is too heavy for our bridges to support!

Which one you are talking about mk1 or mk2

 

[indianwhistleblower]

Which one you are talking about mk1 or mk2

Both are heavy.

 

[hari sud]

Caution is the word for imports including T-90. The Russian still have not given India the technology to make T90 gun barrels. They have been very slow to supply spares.

Although Indian army has got used to T- 90, but it does not hurt to diversify sources.

 

[Dazzler]

Caution is the word for imports including T-90. The Russian still have not given India the technology to make T90 gun barrels. They have been very slow to supply spares.

Although Indian army has got used to T- 90, but it does not hurt to diversify sources.

IA and DRDO are heading no where having a scattered mindon most fundamental things.

 

[GORKHALI]

one side fully exposed to enemy fire, whats so powerful about partial protection?




thermobaric rounds are good for concentrations and fortifications, but not against mechanized armour. For that you need to have good penetrators. Something IA badly lacks.

Good Penetrators ? You started trolling again in this thread as in some other forums these two gentleman from Poland shattered your claims: Damain and militarysta

 

[Dazzler]

Good Penetrators ? You started trolling again in this thread as in some other forums these two gentleman from Poland shattered your claims: Damain and militarysta

Its a concern on my part, for IA, its more of a reality check,arjun cant fire a decent round to kill the enemy, apfsds made in india are way below what is required. and those so called experts know less than most, particularly damian is just a book worm, not a man in the field. without a good apfsds, you entire mbt fleet is toothless against the adversary.

Russkies took IA for a ride by charging 3 times more for an obsolete round, bm-42 mango, worse, they sold you invars which are nothing more than reflex AT-11s, a HEAT is pretty good against bunkers, steal armour but cant stand against composite layers.

Unless the ammo issue is addressed, IA must be worried for the survival their mbt fleet big time.

Arjun update: now its tracks are proving to be faulty, below quality, guess what, they are going to be "tested" with new tracks.

 

[Dazzler]

Caution is the word for imports including T-90. The Russian still have not given India the technology to make T90 gun barrels. They have been very slow to supply spares.

Although Indian army has got used to T- 90, but it does not hurt to diversify sources.

As a weapon system, T-90 is way better than Arjun, too less shot traps, weak zones viz a viz Arjun that has weak zones in the turret (front, side) and some places in the chassis. ERA cover is not adequate to give firm protection against apfsds rounds, may prove to be effective against HEAT. When it comes to protection, T-90 currently the best protected mbt in IA, period though it lacks in situation awareness, vetronics etc, but does have a thermal imager(ESSA sight) so night fighting is not an issue, unless the upgrade plan is still dangling. BU, even T-90 needs to fire something on the enemy.

I believe blacklisting IMI was the worst thing in this case. Ask OFB

 

[hari sud]

Not really; Arjun in Indian trial beat T-90 hollow. Israelis even agreed.

I do not care what Russian want to say. It is their product. It's sales in India are threatened if Arjun is ordered in large numbers. Hence Russians are working overtime to nit pick on Arjun.

 

[IbnTaymiyyah]

All enmity aside this tank looks unreal.

 

[Agent_47]

Fan art..looks good.

 

[Dazzler]

Not really; Arjun in Indian trial beat T-90 hollow. Israelis even agreed.

I do not care what Russian want to say. It is their product. It's sales in India are threatened if Arjun is ordered in large numbers. Hence Russians are working overtime to nit pick on Arjun.

the trials were meant to qualify arjun's worth, not for once was arjun pitted against t-90. they were assigned a set of trials they had to pass.

 

[indiatester]

the trials were meant to qualify arjun's worth, not for once was arjun pitted against t-90. they were assigned a set of trials they had to pass.

Pass they did and scored better than T-90 doesn't it count?

 

[GORKHALI]

the trials were meant to qualify arjun's worth, not for once was arjun pitted against t-90. they were assigned a set of trials they had to pass.

Well this tank was pitted against T90 by IA ,so they can show their love for Natasha,fortunately it didn't work and Arjun Mk1 outgun and outrun T90. Now here is clue,if it can give a bloody nose to T90s, think about AK and T80.

The trial pitted one squadron (14 tanks) of Arjuns against an equal number of T-90s. Each squadron was given three tactical tasks; each involved driving across 50 kilometres of desert terrain and then shooting at a set of targets. Each tank had to fire at least 10 rounds, stationary and on the move, with each hit being carefully logged. In total, each tank drove 150 kilometres and fired between 30-50 rounds. The trials also checked the tanks’ ability to drive through a water channel 5-6 feet deep.

The Arjun tanks, the observers all agreed, performed superbly. Whether driving cross-country over rugged sand-dunes; detecting, observing and quickly engaging targets; or accurately hitting targets, both stationery and moving, with pinpoint gunnery; the Arjun demonstrated a clear superiority over the vaunted T-90.

Now come out of delusion, put links and source for your claim.
BTW Just wait for few more months,a good news is on the way for Arjun Mk2 lovers.
Clue :Its about orders