Are TURKEY and PAKISTAN really ALLIES?

[drmeson]

I know two Bozkurtlar nationalist Turks who call Pakistanis **** and N word. Being Azeri Ghavanloo Turk (we clashed with Anatolians for centuries) myself I know how Turkish mind is built.

Humble minded Islamist Pakistanis will worship anything that is West Asian and Sunni.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I understand you bro. And respect your thoughts.

Bro you have to understand Pakistanis have a "warp" view of a lot of countries our nation suffers stagnation and "identity" crisis many also only like Turkey cause of watermellon seller if you had another leader I dont know it would be the same, but political,diplomatic and military wise will always be close

 

[MastanKhan]

Ally is one of the highly misused word in foreign relations...If any one want to know who is the ally of which country then first find out the need of each country for each other...If your need and long term objective allign which benifit nations with economic prosperity then they can be allies..

Just ask one simple question...During last year financial crisis, Pakistan has to go for IMF for around 15-20 Billion dollar loan?...Why the heck the these so called rich and powerful muslim allies can not arrange 20 billion with zero interest for Pakistan that could have changed the dynamics of Pakistan economy...Is 20 billion is too much for Arabs, Turks and so called allies of Pakistan to arrange it???

My broader intent is here not to point figures with Pakistan realation with Islamic countries rather showing the actual scenario where it is bloody Non Muslim countries like West and China stood with Pakistan in crucial times....

The only easy things that are done by Muslim nations to be an ally of Pakistan is to criticize India and Israel and get the high table in relationships with Pakistan...Because these loose talk and criticizing India do not really cost any money but helping Pakistan financially cost money..

This is the reality of Turkey and so called othet nationa who are brothers of Pakistan...
I have seen the exact same feeling by Pakistan for Gulf nationa in 1990-2010...Now Arabs are replaced by new friends...

Hi

they did give the opportunity. Yemen crisis. Itwas pakistan that screwed up.

Along with with creating a military force for the gcc—-pakistan would have had a battle group sitting on enemy flank.

also it would have brought in around $5 billion aa year hard cash.

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

I know two Bozkurtlar nationalist Turks who call Pakistanis **** and N word. Being Azeri Ghavanloo Turk (we clashed with Anatolians for centuries) myself I know how Turkish mind is built.

Humble minded Islamist Pakistanis will worship anything that is West Asian and Sunni.

Puhahahahahahahaha
This is utterly b.s.
I am a bozkurt aka gray wolf and we love plus respect Pakistan.
There is no negative thoughts in our minds towards Pakistan.
So go and try it some other place...

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

I know two Bozkurtlar nationalist Turks who call Pakistanis **** and N word. Being Azeri Ghavanloo Turk (we clashed with Anatolians for centuries) myself I know how Turkish mind is built.

Humble minded Islamist Pakistanis will worship anything that is West Asian and Sunni.

Thanks for the comment..helps us understand

 

[beijingwalker]

All allies are built on mutual interests and benefits, it's foolish to believe someone will give you money or blood for nothing, let rationality prevail.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

According to the Turkish defense analyst Mete Yarar, Turkey-Pakistan relationship is hidden in the "Historical Code"!!! The folks, who are supporting Turkey now, are the grandkids of the folks who supported Turkey 100 years ago....

Some stuffs simply never change....

A lot of them were from Kerala

Likewise I think Indians also are emotional people as well many tend to view Moscow as their best friend and reminisce the Soviet era alliances too and to the Indian right wing America and Trump especially now again people of South Asia have been treated with disdain for so long so when a Foreign Leader or nation says nice things about anything or gives diplomatic lip service messages people muck it up as major support this mentality needs to end and there needs to be a mature understanding of how international relations work



Its the same with Turks there is nothing emotional about our relations with Ankara if you want to think that way you should thank Uncle Sam for pairing the both together when setting up the Baghdad Pact or CENTO during the cold war the foundational ideology of the Turkish state is Kemalists Secularism while Pakistan is "Islamic Republicanism"

Most Russians other than the ones into Yoga,spirituality and Harekrishna look at us Indians as South Asian N words...people get too emotional and worked up about state level coperation

 

[Yankee-stani]

I know two Bozkurtlar nationalist Turks who call Pakistanis **** and N word. Being Azeri Ghavanloo Turk (we clashed with Anatolians for centuries) myself I know how Turkish mind is built.

Humble minded Islamist Pakistanis will worship anything that is West Asian and Sunni.

Perhaps again the folks I have met in the Turkish diaspora have been like oh dont know much about Pakistan or just might know its an ally of Turkey I think Pakistanis do take to far with the whole brotherhood bs with the Chinese and Turks

Puhahahahahahahaha
This is utterly b.s.
I am a bozkurt aka gray wolf and we love plus respect Pakistan.
There is no negative thoughts in our minds towards Pakistan.
So go and try it some other place...

I would say mix of positive and pitty positive for being an ally of Turkey but pity for being poor way too conservative for Turkish tastes and etc

 

[Armchair]

Hi

they did give the opportunity. Yemen crisis. Itwas pakistan that screwed up.

Along with with creating a military force for the gcc—-pakistan would have had a battle group sitting on enemy flank.

also it would have brought in around $5 billion aa year hard cash.

Opportunity is there right now noone is taking it.

Saudi still needs help with Yemen. Brunei needs help. Gulf needs help as war with Iran is imminent. Pak is too pacifist to even notice these opportunities.

 

[Yankee-stani]

All allies are built on mutual interests and benefits, it's foolish to believe someone will give you money or blood for nothing, let rationality prevail.

1000 percent agree

A lot of them were from Kerala




Most Russians other than the ones into Yoga,spirituality and Harekrishna look at us Indians as South Asian N words...people get too emotional and worked up about state level coperation

Exactly I think the same goes with anyone outside of South Asia be it the Turks,Arabs,Iranians, or Russians but I noticed in both Indian and Pakistani circles online or in some cases in real life take state level co-operation as litmus test for what foreigners think about our countries while in reality its never like that

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

According to the Turkish defense analyst Mete Yarar, Turkey-Pakistan relationship is hidden in the "Historical Code"!!! The folks, who are supporting Turkey now, are the grandkids of the folks who supported Turkey 100 years ago....

Some stuffs simply never change....

I have watched it long ago and 100% agreed with him.

 

[drmeson]

Puhahahahahahahaha
This is utterly b.s.
I am a bozkurt aka gray wolf and we love plus respect Pakistan.
There is no negative thoughts in our minds towards Pakistan.
So go and try it some other place...

stop lying like a coward just because you are sitting in a Pakistani forum. I know how your kind treats Afghans and Pakistani laborers in Turkey. You lot are ethnic minded to the core and here you play the Islam card to gain support of humble minded Islamist Pakistanis who deep inside your mind you see as islamic converted Indians and weak.

Here are your bozkurt scum bags beating on Sunni Arabs in turkey and destroying their shops.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1234212058440359936

I am a turk myself of Qara Ghajar Ghavanloo warrior lineage. I have the courage to speak truth, I dont care if I get banned or not do you ? I thought true bozkurt would speak truth but you are lying to everyone face.

 

[Old School]

The one and only ally of Pakistan is Allah , the supreme Lord of the universe and beyond.

 

[Zulfiqar]

People to people relationship with turkey might be good but it will take a long time before our defence relationship with turkey reaches the level that we have with chinese.

There are chinese literally working in our country's defence/strategic orgs to keep us up on our feet.

I have seen many over last two decades. Our strategic delivery program won't be where it is now without their help.

I would be more afraid of china as an enemy as compared to India or US considering how much they know about our strategic organs.

Perhaps in future with the partnership with TAI e.t.c we may see similar collaboration up to that level.

In future I hope we have more economic and defence synergy with both Turkey and China. We can forget about middle east because our interests diverge with them.

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

stop lying like a coward just because you are sitting in a Pakistani forum. I know how your kind treats Afghans and Pakistani laborers in Turkey. You lot are ethnic minded to the core and here you play the Islam card to gain support of humble minded Islamist Pakistanis who deep inside your mind you see as islamic converted Indians and weak.

Here are your bozkurt scum bags beating on Sunni Arabs in turkey and destroying their shops.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1234212058440359936

I am a turk myself of Qara Ghajar Ghavanloo warrior lineage. I have the courage to speak truth, I dont care if I get banned or not do you ? I thought true bozkurt would speak truth but you are lying to everyone face.

Hahaha
Good try dude good try but none gonna eat this shit here.
I don't need to make anyone believe in me here coz almost all Pakistanis know us gray wolves love Pakistan and will support no matter whatsoever.
But however I admire your efforts. At least you are trying what if someone would eat it.... Right?