Are TURKEY and PAKISTAN really ALLIES?

[MastanKhan]

The one and only ally of Pakistan is Allah , the supreme Lord of the universe and beyond.

Hi

Allah has left pakistan to handle its own miseries.

 

[Mentee]

Hi

Allah has left pakistan to handle its own miseries.

Sir kbhi kbhi farishto sy khyr khabar daryaft kr li jaati Hai


Ki Nava katta kholia hun ehna nay?

 

[Yankee-stani]

The one and only ally of Pakistan is Allah , the supreme Lord of the universe and beyond.

The best statement I have seen on this thread if more Pakistanis understand that are only ally is Allah(swt) we would not be in such an "identity crisis" as a nation I like Turkey but like the Iranians and the Arabs many of their people and govts are ethnic nationalists and have a history of taking ultra ethnic nationalism too far and harming people in the end

People to people relationship with turkey might be good but it will take a long time before our defence relationship with turkey reaches the level that we have with chinese.

There are chinese literally working in our country's defence/strategic orgs to keep us up on our feet.

I have seen many over last two decades. Our strategic delivery program won't be where it is now without their help.

I would be more afraid of china as an enemy as compared to India or US considering how much they know about our strategic organs.

Perhaps in future with the partnership with TAI e.t.c we may see similar collaboration up to that level.

In future I hope we have more economic and defence synergy with both Turkey and China. We can forget about middle east because our interests diverge with them.

Turkey largest arms customer and defense related equipment sales are is to Pakistan they are 2nd after China, but you are right the Chinese are ahead of the Turks in the regard and for the foreseeable future a balance of both has been reached but must be furthered

stop lying like a coward just because you are sitting in a Pakistani forum. I know how your kind treats Afghans and Pakistani laborers in Turkey. You lot are ethnic minded to the core and here you play the Islam card to gain support of humble minded Islamist Pakistanis who deep inside your mind you see as islamic converted Indians and weak.

Here are your bozkurt scum bags beating on Sunni Arabs in turkey and destroying their shops.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1234212058440359936

I am a turk myself of Qara Ghajar Ghavanloo warrior lineage. I have the courage to speak truth, I dont care if I get banned or not do you ? I thought true bozkurt would speak truth but you are lying to everyone face.

This is why I tell Pakistanis all the time that this "brotherhood" stuff is nonsense and slogans by diplomats and leaders of respective nations eg-Turkey or China our passport ranks sucks you think we will have nice treatment at at airports in Istanbul and Beijing, but whatever you say about the Turks Iranians are the same ethnic core minded and hegemonic as hell but that's your bussiness at the end of the day you will only feel comfortble with your own kind anyways I do hope Ankara and Tehran settle what even gaps they have and form some sort of partnership to keep some form stabillty in the Mid East and to keep check on the Russians,Chinese and Americans.

Hahaha
Good try dude good try but none gonna eat this shit here.
I don't need to make anyone believe in me here coz almost all Pakistanis know us gray wolves love Pakistan and will support no matter whatsoever.
But however I admire your efforts. At least you are trying what if someone would eat it.... Right?

Well statements are nice but at end of the day we know inside we have to fight on our own and not depend on anyone else be it friends,fake friends or enemies

 

[Kailash Kumar]

I do think that Turkey and Pakistan are allies or even more.

This bond has grown primarily because of their shared history.
I do not know when it started, but I think during the Cold War, the bond became stronger, when Turkey and Pakistan together resisted the advance of Communism in that part of Asia.

Although the United States was an ally in the Cold War, that changed after the war ended.
The relationship with the United States for both countries has since deteriorated.
For Pakistan especially after 9/11.
For Turkey after Erdogan became prime minister.
Yet the relationship between Turkey and Pakistan has not.
Maybe because they both see the United States as the common enemy, just like Communism before.
They did not want to take orders from Communist leaders then, yet they both ended up taking orders from the U.S.
So, maybe they know that they need to band together in order to resist the U.S., just like they resisted Communism.

I also think that they both dream of a reviving Islam in a certain way in that part of Asia.
A way which is not as how the Arabs, Iranians, Afghans or any other primarily Muslim people want or envision it.
Therefore Turkey and Pakistan might feel that other Islamic countries do not understand what they are both trying to accomplish.
This feeling might also strengthen their bond in a sense that they are the only two left.
The others are misguided.
They are puppets.

And although they are now not strong enough to resist the U.S. to make their dream come true, many of them think and hope that there will be a day when they can.

From that day everything will be better... a new dawn.

This is why they know they need to patient.
But also why they need to support each other in the meantime.
Since one cannot accomplish their dream, only both, together, can do so.

 

[PakistaniJunior]

I think that goodwill between Turkish and Pakistani people should prevail. However i feel that many pakistanis are very gullible emotionally. They tend to get emotional over things quickly. It is important we maintain our self respect when showing our support for others, not turn into literal fanboys/fangirls.

For the atmosphere of the forum, the Uyghur Issue has especially ruined the friendliness to some extent.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I think that goodwill between Turkish and Pakistani people should prevail. However i feel that many pakistanis are very gullible emotionally. They tend to get emotional over things quickly. It is important we maintain our self respect when showing our support for others, not turn into literal fanboys/fangirls.

For the atmosphere of the forum, the Uyghur Issue has especially ruined the friendliness to some extent.

The problem is Pakistanis are fan boys and fan girls mentality blinds their judgement towards other countries and the world in general

 

[PakistaniJunior]

The problem is Pakistanis are fan boys and fan girls mentality blinds their judgement towards other countries and the world in general

It is actually kind of sad, has the isolation and constant antagonization from the world really left us this desperate for positive attention?

 

[Old School]

The problem is Pakistanis are fan boys and fan girls mentality blinds their judgement towards other countries and the world in general

The problem is that we Pakistanis are not yet independent in true sense. Foreign poodles have been running Pakistan since 1947. All we have is a flag and a national anthem. Thus , we have to liberate our country first from all sorts of foreign poodles.

 

[MastanKhan]

The one and only ally of Pakistan is Allah , the supreme Lord of the universe and beyond.

Stop lying to yourself and to the world.

you trying to tell us that the Ally of Allah is in deep filth corruption perversity liar cheat murderer rapist financial criminal and any and every sin known to man dine here.

You have the audacity of saying that Allah has alliance with this nation. This comment of your’s is worst than any Blasphemy that I Have heard.

 

[ARMalik]

Turkish MFA spokesman slams India counterpart's remarks
Hami Aksoy says India’s External Affairs Ministry spokesperson attempted to deny the facts about violence against Muslims

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/turkey/turkish-mfa-spokesman-slams-india-counterparts-remarks/1756496

ANKARA

Turkish Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hami Aksoy slammed his Indian counterpart late Thursday for criticizing statements by Turkey’s president on recent violence in New Delhi against Muslims.

Remarks by India’s External Affairs Ministry Spokesperson Raveesh Kumar about Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s comments are irresponsible, said Aksoy.

“Images published by international press agencies have clearly demonstrated violent acts against Muslims in New Delhi since Feb. 23,” he added.

Answering a question about Kumar’s statement, Aksoy said his remarks were made in an effort to deny the facts.

“We expect the Indian government to take the necessary precautions and protect the peace and security of all citizens in order to prevent violence against Muslims in the country,” he added.

 

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KJ vids....
HizbuTahrir propaganda.. ..search up who they are.

Before everyone jumps up and down, remember this video is someone's PERSONAL OPINION and NOT Gospel truth.

 

[Yankee-stani]

HizbuTahrir propaganda.. ..search up who they are.

Are you pulling stuff from someone's rear you assuming some You Tuber is tied to some terrorist group cause he pointed some marked differences between in Pakistan and Turkey"s foreign and geo strategic policies

 

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Normally I would not quote an Indian or like their posts but you excellently hit the bullietpoints you see back in the 2000s asides a few visits from Turkish leaders Turkey was once considered way too distant tho there was those shitty dosti songs about Pak-Turk Friendship or Pro-China friendship,Turkey was just some liberal Muslim country and it was common back then to hear people crap on Ataturk and his reforms but that all changed once the Turkish TV shows started airing on local tv and The whole Mavi Marmara incident in 2010

dude lately you are spewing a lot of nonsense..take a break..and research Paksitan-Turkey collaboration during cold war. and post cold-war.Search Erbakan and his ties with General Zia.

Are you pulling stuff from someone's rear you assuming some You Tuber is tied to some terrorist group cause he pointed some marked differences between in Pakistan and Turkey"s foreign and geo strategic policies

Trust me.. im saying this with some conviction.. They hate Erdogan like you so you makes sense you would find this strange..

 

[HAIDER]

The problem is Pakistanis are fan boys and fan girls mentality blinds their judgement towards other countries and the world in general

That is the problem.... we stuck on two poles, Yes or NO. Other nations policy lies between Yes and No. Other countries talk about there national interest first then see how we support other by keep the neutrality. I can say alot , but some of friend won't digest the reality due to stuck in local minded emotional foreign policy.

 

[Yankee-stani]

dude lately you are spewing a lot of nonsense..take a break..and research Paksitan-Turkey collaboration during cold war. and post cold-war.Search Erbakan and his ties with General Zia.




Trust me.. im saying this with some conviction.. They hate Erdogan like you so you makes sense you would find this strange..

Erbakan wasn't Prime Minister of Turkey until 1996 Zia Died in 1988,and then leader of Turkey,was Turgut Ozal why you are mad at me is it because of my recent posts towards Turkey's follies and misadventures in the region lately

That is the problem.... we stuck on two poles, Yes or NO. Other nations policy lies between Yes and No. Other countries talk about there national interest first then see how we support other by keep the neutrality. I can say alot , but some of friend won't digest the reality due to stuck in local mind emotional foreign policy.

Pakistanis think in terms oh if we ally with Turkey we have to support them on everything of what they do in Syria,Libya or etc likewise with China regarding Xinjiang or Southern China Sea stop being fan boys thats what I reiterate