Hawk_Pakistani
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Well this is an absurd attempt at creating/normalizing sectarian rifts.
It's true that the overwhelming majority of Pakistani Shiites consider Iran to be sacred mostly due to religious affiliation but also as someone in the same capacity as what Turkey is to people (tribes with roots to Turkey) in Central Asia. And it doesn't needs to come down to ethnicity (ethnicity plays minimal or no role percentage wise), but all down to what muslims in India felt for Ottoman Sultanate.
And before anyone rants and calls me out for comparing Iran with the mighty Ottomans, i would like to clarify that the comparison made here is to present a relatable example of how a guarantor/second-home/successor/propagator of what you hold dear is perceived but its never at the expense of one's own nation (and certainly not as a community as the original poster desperately tries to generalize).
On an individual level, even SSG and members of Navy turned out to be traitors/terrorists going against the very state but if the rationale of these sectarian posters is put in the context then by their logic SSG or Navy is loyal to some state which owns the Madrassah who indoctrinated them, and not to Pakistan.
I would also like to point out here that the thing "talking against Shiites will deem you this or that" and throwing this as a joke will lead to subtly accepting this term as a normal and would intentionally or unintentionally give some sort of an umbrella to people who will be using this for speaking/labelling/tantrum against a whole Sect which in any case will bring us back to the time period of 2009-2013.
And lastly, no armed Shiite group has attacked the state of Pakistan or even went against it as other purely sectarian groups have done in the past, and if some one was posting against any other sect just on the basis of this known fact the same Post/logic which this poster has been posting on this forum, we all know how his bullshit would be called out!!
- Is everything perfect?
No, but is anything perfect anywhere else?
- is the situation damning?
No, and certainly not enough to damn a whole sect or their established communities/organizations to be labelled as traitors.
And as for the Hezbullah flags, though it is considered by US as a terrorist organization but i still remember how the people of Pakistan (regardless of sect or any division) used to waive flags of Hezbullah and support it during the Lebanon War. And this has stemmed from that same sense of pride this organization holds as being the only fighting Arab force which can take on Israel.
It's true that the overwhelming majority of Pakistani Shiites consider Iran to be sacred mostly due to religious affiliation but also as someone in the same capacity as what Turkey is to people (tribes with roots to Turkey) in Central Asia. And it doesn't needs to come down to ethnicity (ethnicity plays minimal or no role percentage wise), but all down to what muslims in India felt for Ottoman Sultanate.
And before anyone rants and calls me out for comparing Iran with the mighty Ottomans, i would like to clarify that the comparison made here is to present a relatable example of how a guarantor/second-home/successor/propagator of what you hold dear is perceived but its never at the expense of one's own nation (and certainly not as a community as the original poster desperately tries to generalize).
On an individual level, even SSG and members of Navy turned out to be traitors/terrorists going against the very state but if the rationale of these sectarian posters is put in the context then by their logic SSG or Navy is loyal to some state which owns the Madrassah who indoctrinated them, and not to Pakistan.
I would also like to point out here that the thing "talking against Shiites will deem you this or that" and throwing this as a joke will lead to subtly accepting this term as a normal and would intentionally or unintentionally give some sort of an umbrella to people who will be using this for speaking/labelling/tantrum against a whole Sect which in any case will bring us back to the time period of 2009-2013.
And lastly, no armed Shiite group has attacked the state of Pakistan or even went against it as other purely sectarian groups have done in the past, and if some one was posting against any other sect just on the basis of this known fact the same Post/logic which this poster has been posting on this forum, we all know how his bullshit would be called out!!
- Is everything perfect?
No, but is anything perfect anywhere else?
- is the situation damning?
No, and certainly not enough to damn a whole sect or their established communities/organizations to be labelled as traitors.
And as for the Hezbullah flags, though it is considered by US as a terrorist organization but i still remember how the people of Pakistan (regardless of sect or any division) used to waive flags of Hezbullah and support it during the Lebanon War. And this has stemmed from that same sense of pride this organization holds as being the only fighting Arab force which can take on Israel.
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