Are Muslims Better Off in Quaid-e-Azam M.A. Jinnah's Pakistan Today?

[Da-Bang]

I think since Pakistan is a Islam based state we should compare it to Islamic states only, comparison with India or China is not justified.

If they are happy being an Islamic state with its shortcomings its their choice, its not like they wanna be secular or anything.

So comparatively Pakistan is doing ok I guesscompared to Iran afghanistan iraq egypt etc..

 

[karan.1970]

Muslims are free in Pakistan. This fact alone trumps everything else!

Never underestimate the value of freedom my sons..NEVER!!

Free from what ?

 

[Teeta]

Free from what ?

I don't about the "from" part, since I'm not a Pakistani Muslim and I don't want to comment on "Hindu vs Muslim" issue..

Regardless, Pakistan Muslims are free to do whatever they want. They can have their own laws, their own culture, their own arts, their own music, their own politics, their own economic choices. 180 million Pakistani Muslims can decide as to how they want to impact the regional politics. They can make their own alliances , their own enemies. They are free to "fight for the Ummah" or "sacrifice themselves for the good of global Islam" (no matter how ridiculous their choice may be)...At the end of the day, 180 million Muslims of Northern India are free to pursue whatever life they want. Their future depends on the choices they make!!

 

[karan.1970]

I don't about the "from" part, since I'm not a Pakistani Muslim and I don't want to comment on "Hindu vs Muslim" issue..

Regardless, Pakistan Muslims are free to do whatever they want. They can have their own laws, their own culture, their own arts, their own music, their own politics, their own economic choices. 180 million Pakistani Muslims can decide as to how they want to impact the regional politics. They can make their own alliances , their own enemies. They are free to "fight for the Ummah" or "sacrifice themselves for the good of global Islam" (no matter how ridiculous their choice may be)...At the end of the day, 180 million Muslims of Northern India are free to pursue whatever life they want. Their future depends on the choices they make!!

Then how about giving a free nation each from within Pakistan to Shias an Ahmadis as well so they can have that free choice too...

 

[GURU DUTT]

Dude if only u knew how Pakistani media and western works

You can give money to any body any mom dad kid n bring him on TV n make him talk simply the way u want him to be talking.....

Its a very old Drama n its done everywhere for sensationalism n generation more n more TRPs and audiences.



Yeah u mean u know better then us who actually happens to be living in the very country yr talking about.

well lets put it this way am i wrong or right about what has been stated by many diff pakistani media wether thats right or wrong you can findend number of excuses for it but you know better no contesting that and the fasact denial and conspiracy theories is the fav pass time of the people from LAND OF THE PURE

 

[GURU DUTT]

I don't about the "from" part, since I'm not a Pakistani Muslim and I don't want to comment on "Hindu vs Muslim" issue..

Regardless, Pakistan Muslims are free to do whatever they want. They can have their own laws, their own culture, their own arts, their own music, their own politics, their own economic choices. 180 million Pakistani Muslims can decide as to how they want to impact the regional politics. They can make their own alliances , their own enemies. They are free to "fight for the Ummah" or "sacrifice themselves for the good of global Islam" (no matter how ridiculous their choice may be)...At the end of the day, 180 million Muslims of Northern India are free to pursue whatever life they want. Their future depends on the choices they make!!

you know sir whats pakistans biggest dilemma ...THEY DONT HAVE A IDEA WHY WAS PALKISTAN CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE AND WHAT IS THERE IDENTITY so i know its like sttiring a hornets nest so i will not say any thing but the fact is it was made on wrong intentions and the people who made it were nawaabs , janindars , whadersa and the so called pure blood muslims who dint had guts to be treated like equals from the CHILDREN OF THERE FORMER SERVANTS AND RIYAYAA and they are the ones who are still calling the shots in pakistan and we indians are realli great ful to Sir Md Ali Jinnah for taking these scumms away from us ....Thanks You Sir Jinnah

and about the bolded part as they say boen paer babool ka to aam kahan se paye well in short keep up the good work it works just fine for us

 

[Don Jaguar]

you know sir whats pakistans biggest dilemma ...THEY DONT HAVE A IDEA WHY WAS PALKISTAN CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE AND WHAT IS THERE IDENTITY

IDENTITY : South asian and central asian muslims.

Reason of Creation : Welfare of south asian and central asian muslims.

 

[Teeta]

Then how about giving a free nation each from within Pakistan to Shias an Ahmadis as well so they can have that free choice too...

Majority of these people won't want a 'state' ...no?

Go to any average Pakistani Shia youth and say " Hey man, how about dividing Pakistan and making a new , small shia state out of it?" ..I'm very sure he won't like this idea very much.

 

[GURU DUTT]

IDENTITY : South asian and central asian muslims.

Reason of Creation : Welfare of south asian and central asian muslims.

about the first part thats not all many beleve they are part arabs and in some of there practises more arabs than arabs themselfs and same applies to central asian stuff aswell but keep harping about there eaterwhile hindu casts and clans like = Jutts , Rana , Rao, Malik , Rajput , Bhutt, among others(but some where i read that in islam all are equal and castes are kufr)


he he the second part you took more serousli but forgot to look and uplift the south asians(and are proud of what the so called pure race central and south asian{punjabi} army did to there bangali bhais in 1971) lolzzzzzzzz but its god to know neverthless
In short the present state of pakistan is NA TO KARWAAN HI MILA NA WASALE SANAM NA IDHAR KE RAHE NA UDHAR KE HUM(PAKISTANIES)

Thanks Don

 

[DroneAcharya]

Majority of these people won't want a 'state' ...no?

Go to any average Pakistani Shia youth and say " Hey man, how about dividing Pakistan and making a new , small shia state out of it?" ..I'm very sure he won't like this idea very much.

Well sure he does. How do you think them Bengali Muslims got their own free land ? After a lot of rapin' and genocidin' by their Muslim brothers, that's how. Similarly, them Shias need their own land too.

 

[Don Jaguar]

about the first part thats not all many beleve they are part arabs and in some of there practises more arabs than arabs themselfs and same applies to central asian stuff aswell but keep harping about there eaterwhile hindu casts and clans like = Jutts , Rana , Rao, Malik , Rajput , Bhutt, among others

No one in Pakistan call them self arab but yes some people call themselves south asian syed.

Thre is no caste system in Pakistan these names Jutt, Rana, Rao, Malik, Rajput, Butt are just used as surnames. There is no sense of superiority or inferiority.

he he the second part you took more serousli but forgot to look and uplift the south asians lolzzzzzzzz but its god to know neverthless

South asian and central asian muslim's welfare.

^^ Now try to understand again.

 

[Teeta]

Well sure he does. How do you think them Bengali Muslims got their own free land ? After a lot of rapin' and genocidin' by their Muslim brothers, that's how. Similarly, them Shias need their own land too.

An indian's worthless opinion doesn't matter here......

Any Pakistani Shia in the forum? Will they support division of Pakistan? I don't think so.

You can have your indian trolling and worthless ranting, but please stop "quoting" me if you aren't gonna say something worthwhile...

 

[Contrarian]

An indian's worthless opinion doesn't matter here......

Any Pakistani Shia in the forum? Will they support division of Pakistan? I don't think so.

You can have your indian trolling and worthless ranting, but please stop "quoting" me if you aren't gonna say something worthwhile...

And here i thought you were an ethnic American. I see you are a Pakistani American. Care to put up one Pakistani flag to mark your descent?

 

[Don Jaguar]

An indian's worthless opinion doesn't matter here......

Any Pakistani Shia in the forum? Will they support division of Pakistan? I don't think so.

You can have your indian trolling and worthless ranting, but please stop "quoting" me if you aren't gonna say something worthwhile...

Shia muslim reporting here.

Who talked about division of Pakistan?

 

[GURU DUTT]

No one in Pakistan call them self arab but yes some people call themselves south asian syed.

Thre is no caste system in Pakistan these names Jutt, Rana, Rao, Malik, Rajput, Butt are just used as surnames. There is no sense of superiority or inferiority.



South asian and central asian muslim's welfare.

^^ Now try to understand again.

he he he he well don bhai no problems sir i can understands a pakistani dilema in this regards Thanks Bro