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The 'i' in Apple's product lines perfectly fits the 'Me, me, me, me!' generation of self-absorbed hipsters. While Bill Gates retired around his peak as one of the richest men in the world AND founded one of the largest charity in the world Mr. Jobs clung on to his Apple position, hoarding money, and could not even contribute 10% of Gates' charity. That should tell you something about Jobs vs Gates.

Some day I will write about how Gates' willingness to allow easy distribution of Windows made computing so affordable and technological advances so rapid. God forbids if Apple had won in the 80's! We would be buying Apple craps at 5 times their existing bloated prices.


The fraud known as Apple Inc. will be exposed eventually. And I think by trying to ban even the Galaxy III Apple has made the 'strategic over-reach'.

Bill Gates has his flaws, but he comes across such a humble guy.

MS charges like $40 for window on a PC. Consider what the MS-OS does for that price. This world would look very different today had it not been for Gates.
 
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The thing is although I am typing this from my girlfriend's new iPad, I wish I could do it from a galaxy note 10.1 as I can use its S-pen instead my finger,and most importantly I could customize the interface and many of its features the way I like it instead of how apple think I would like it.

So you are complaining about Apple not allowing customization on iOS right? It's true that iOS simply does not allow customization to the extent Android does out of the box. Therein lies the difference between the 2 platforms. Google allows manufacturers & users to do pretty much whatever they want with Android. While that may seem to be one of Android's strengths, it's also one of its greatest weaknesses. Fragmentation is a well known weakness of the Android ecosystem, the variance in hardware, user interfaces, & software versions makes it extremely difficult to provide a consistent & comparable Android user experience across all devices.

Apple's approach is different from Google's since Apple controls both the hardware & software, they get to maintain the quality of the user experience as well. Many of us prefer iOS's user experience, its high quality applications, & its great integration with OS X & other Apple products in comparison to Android's or Windows Phone Series' user experience. If you do not like Apple's products then don't use them, it's as simple as that. As I said earlier; different people have different needs & a person should use the technology that best suits his or her lifestyle.

By the way, Android is far from perfect; there are a variety of issues that plague it such as the lack of timely updates. Freedom is limited on every mobile platform, for example; can I use the stock Android interface on the Samsung Galaxy S3 without using a crappy custom ROM? Seeing as Android is supposedly all about choice & customization, why does Samsung not officially provide me with the ability to use Android without the ugly TouchWiz UI? The answer is simple; it's all about controlling & providing the customer with a specific user experience.
 
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Let me just add Samsung is an impressive technology company their smartphones are quality. I don't really mean to degrade Samsung when I changed their name around, it's just that they have done some erroneous copying of Apple products which they shouldn't have.
 
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Let me just add Samsung is an impressive technology company their smartphones are quality. I don't really mean to degrade Samsung when I changed their name around, it's just that they have done some erroneous copying of Apple products which they shouldn't have.

The same can be said of Apple.
The problem with apple is not the "Walled Garden" philosophy, or the that they charge you 3x more then what their products are worth. The problem people have with Apple is their cult. It's people like the ones here towing the Apple line of "everyone copies us" or "Macs don't get virus" or "It just works"
You people have been so brainwashed by the Apple cult that you actually believe these lies. And then you go online and bash people over the head with them.

If you want to buy Apple then good for you, no one cares. But don't parrot apple talking points about how everyone copies them, without being called out as a tool for it.

In the real world everyone copies, including your ever so Holy Apple Inc.
 
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So you are complaining about Apple not allowing customization on iOS right? It's true that iOS simply does not allow customization to the extent Android does out of the box. Therein lies the difference between the 2 platforms. Google allows manufacturers & users to do pretty much whatever they want with Android. While that may seem to be one of Android's strengths, it's also one of its greatest weaknesses. Fragmentation is a well known weakness of the Android ecosystem, the variance in hardware, user interfaces, & software versions makes it extremely difficult to provide a consistent & comparable Android user experience across all devices.

Apple's approach is different from Google's since Apple controls both the hardware & software, they get to maintain the quality of the user experience as well. Many of us prefer iOS's user experience, its high quality applications, & its great integration with OS X & other Apple products in comparison to Android's or Windows Phone Series' user experience. If you do not like Apple's products then don't use them, it's as simple as that. As I said earlier; different people have different needs & a person should use the technology that best suits his or her lifestyle.

By the way, Android is far from perfect; there are a variety of issues that plague it such as the lack of timely updates. Freedom is limited on every mobile platform, for example; can I use the stock Android interface on the Samsung Galaxy S3 without using a crappy custom ROM? Seeing as Android is supposedly all about choice & customization, why does Samsung not officially provide me with the ability to use Android without the ugly TouchWiz UI? The answer is simple; it's all about controlling & providing the customer with a specific user experience.


Of course I can replace Touchwiz with UI APPsuch as Golauncher without the need to change the rom or even root the phone. Actually trying out different Rom to see which one suits you the best is one of fun part of using an android phone.
 
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Of course I can replace Touchwiz with UI APPsuch as Golauncher without the need to change the rom or even root the phone. Actually trying out different Rom to see which one suits you the best is one of fun part of using an android phone.

I am not talking about using launchers. What I meant was that Android users lack the ability to officially use stock Android to benefit from the true Google experience unless they purchase a Nexus device. That may also be described as a limitation or restriction of freedom. Most people are not fond of using custom ROMs, they tend to be buggy & are by no means a good replacement for the manufacturer's variant of Android. Besides, the majority of users lack the time to play around with their smartphones especially since most of them procure technology for improving productivity. By the way, some people jailbreak their iPhones to get rid of some of the restrictions placed by Apple. It's better for everyone to accept that different platforms are meant to suit customers with different needs. That is exactly why competition is a good thing.

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Leaving aside the Android & iOS user experience, I want to present my views regarding why I think OS X is immune to viruses. Some people might recall that there were a variety of viruses for the previous generation of the Macintosh operating systems. So why doesn't OS X have its share of viruses? The answer is simple; OS X is simply better designed. Unix based & Unix-like operating systems differentiate between the system's & the user's files. Basically the user requires administrative privileges to modify system files. This means that when a person or an application attempts to modify system files in OS X, the operating system requires the administrator's password to proceed with the modifications. That is exactly why a Trojan horse targeting OS X relies mostly on social engineering. The virus or worm attempts to trick the user in to believing that it happens to be a legitimate application attempting to perform a legitimate task. If the user is intelligent or computer literate, he or she wouldn't be fooled by the virus's attempts at gaining administrative privileges in the first place.

Up until Windows Vista, Microsoft Windows made no distinction if any between the user space & the system's internal processes or files. Basically, every users had administrative privileges resulting in a virus or Trojan horse being allowed to carry out any modifications it desired by simply requesting a function to be carried out in the user's name. This combined with a variety of other flaws made Microsoft Windows extremely susceptible to viruses. People might recall that in the past all that was required to bypass the password prompt in Windows was to simply click on the cancel button. That itself demonstrates how devoid of security Microsoft Windows truly was. That changed in Windows Vista & the user's files & processes were finally differentiated from the system's files & processes. User account control in Windows is among some of the best attempts at securing Windows from viruses. Why do Windows machines still suffer from viruses? Social engineering is one of the methods used by illegitimate websites & applications to require administrative privileges, foolish users happen to be deceived easily. Another problem is that Windows still retains a lot of legacy code from the 9x era, that allows older viruses to run on even the latest versions of Microsoft's operating systems. The reason for the inclusion of this legacy code is to ensure compatibility with legacy hardware, it's in essence a necessary evil. There are other flaws in Windows' security as well, but these should be enough for now.

Getting to the subject of copying, there is a lot of truth in the fact that many operating systems do borrow from the user interface design of OS X & iOS. I advise people to notice the resemblance between OS X & Ubuntu 12.04's default Unity interface.

OS X Mountain Lion

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Ubuntu 12.04

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That should be enough to defend my contention. Of course, I could go in to a lot more details when it comes to discussing why OS X is superior.

Here is another hilarious video about Windows Vista copying OS X. :lol:

 
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I am not talking about using launchers. What I meant was that Android users lack the ability to officially use stock Android to benefit from the true Google experience unless they purchase a Nexus device. That may also be described as a limitation or restriction of freedom. Most people are not fond of using custom ROMs, they tend to be buggy & are by no means a good replacement for the manufacturer's variant of Android. Besides, the majority of users lack the time to play around with their smartphones especially since most of them procure technology for improving productivity. By the way, some people jailbreak their iPhones to get rid of some of the restrictions placed by Apple. It's better for everyone to accept that different platforms are meant to suit customers with different needs. That is exactly why competition is a good thing.

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Leaving aside the Android & iOS user experience, I want to present my views regarding why I think OS X is immune to viruses. Some people might recall that there were a variety of viruses for the previous generation of the Macintosh operating systems. So why doesn't OS X have its share of viruses? The answer is simple; OS X is simply better designed. Unix based & Unix-like operating systems differentiate between the system's & the user's files. Basically the user requires administrative privileges to modify system files. This means that when a person or an application attempts to modify system files in OS X, the operating system requires the administrator's password to proceed with the modifications. That is exactly why a Trojan horse targeting OS X relies mostly on social engineering. The virus or worm attempts to trick the user in to believing that it happens to be a legitimate application attempting to perform a legitimate task. If the user is intelligent or computer literate, he or she wouldn't be fooled by the virus's attempts at gaining administrative privileges in the first place.

Up until Windows Vista, Microsoft Windows made no distinction if any between the user space & the system's internal processes or files. Basically, every users had administrative privileges resulting in a virus or Trojan horse being allowed to carry out any modifications it desired by simply requesting a function to be carried out in the user's name. This combined with a variety of other flaws made Microsoft Windows extremely susceptible to viruses. People might recall that in the past all that was required to bypass the password prompt in Windows was to simply click on the cancel button. That itself demonstrates how devoid of security Microsoft Windows truly was. That changed in Windows Vista & the user's files & processes were finally differentiated from the system's files & processes. User account control in Windows is among some of the best attempts at securing Windows from viruses. Why do Windows machines still suffer from viruses? Social engineering is one of the methods used by illegitimate websites & applications to require administrative privileges, foolish users happen to be deceived easily. Another problem is that Windows still retains a lot of legacy code from the 9x era, that allows older viruses to run on even the latest versions of Microsoft's operating systems. The reason for the inclusion of this legacy code is to ensure compatibility with legacy hardware, it's in essence a necessary evil. There are other flaws in Windows' security as well, but these should be enough for now.

Getting to the subject of copying, there is a lot of truth in the fact that many operating systems do borrow from the user interface design of OS X & iOS. I advise people to notice the resemblance between OS X & Ubuntu 12.04's default Unity interface.


That should be enough to defend my contention. Of course, I could go in to a lot more details when it comes to discussing why OS X is superior.

Here is another hilarious video about Windows Vista copying OS X. :lol:


Anyhow those argument aside. There is a film that might interest you. "the pirates of sillicon valley"
 
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Anyhow those argument aside. There is a film that might interest you. "the pirates of sillicon valley"

I haven't seen that film, it's supposed to be about the life of Steve Jobs & Bill Gates, & the rise of Apple & Microsoft right? I might watch that film later on if I get the time. I have watched documentaries on Apple & Microsoft though, & I generally keep up with the developments in the gaming & technological industry.
 
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I have been seriously considering buying a Dell XPS One 27". Here is one 'Review'. Please see the benchmark tests:

Dell XPS One 2710 Review - Watch CNET's Video Review

Granted Apple's iMAC beats the Dell hands-down in one category (multimedia multitasking) but in others there is stiff competition and even the Dell excelling. Now consider this: I can get the Dell one for $1399 from Amazon while the stupid Apple is $1924 advertised on the bottom of that page right now.

Oh, yes, Apple says 'Think Different' and so I must think like Apple and buys the rotten fruity hardware. That I should act against my own economic interests? I'd pass.

Get a picture?! Now, iMACs are supposed to offer relatively better value than, say, MacBook Pro. But a difference of 37% ($525) between the Dell and the iMAC is simply unjustifiable.

Please don't give me the crap about how Apple lasts forever. My home security system runs on a Dell Dimension 8400 from around 2004 or some time in 2005--can't recall exactly, with XP, 1 gb RAM. The poor thing runs inside a sun-room which gets hot in summer, dusty in spring (when we open windows), doesn't have any antivirus running on it, and we turn it On/Off by basically pushing down the surge protector button. We bought that for less than $500 REFURBISHED! If we were stupid and bought into some Apple hype we would have gotten much less for our money.
 
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What does this thread have to do with Pakistan's economic development?
 
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I have been seriously considering buying a Dell XPS One 27". Here is one 'Review'. Please see the benchmark tests:

Dell XPS One 2710 Review - Watch CNET's Video Review

Granted Apple's iMAC beats the Dell hands-down in one category (multimedia multitasking) but in others there is stiff competition and even the Dell excelling. Now consider this: I can get the Dell one for $1399 from Amazon while the stupid Apple is $1924 advertised on the bottom of that page right now.

Oh, yes, Apple says 'Think Different' and so I must think like Apple and buys the rotten fruity hardware. That I should act against my own economic interests? I'd pass.

Get a picture?! Now, iMACs are supposed to offer relatively better value than, say, MacBook Pro. But a difference of 37% ($525) between the Dell and the iMAC is simply unjustifiable.

Please don't give me the crap about how Apple lasts forever. My home security system runs on a Dell Dimension 8400 from around 2004 or some time in 2005--can't recall exactly, with XP, 1 gb RAM. The poor thing runs inside a sun-room which gets hot in summer, dusty in spring (when we open windows), doesn't have any antivirus running on it, and we turn it On/Off by basically pushing down the surge protector button. We bought that for less than $500 REFURBISHED! If we were stupid and bought into some Apple hype we would have gotten much less for our money.

The new iMacs are supposed to be released soon right? I quickly skimped through the review you posted, but if I am not mistaken, the Dell machine has slightly better specifications than that iMac. The benchmark comparison was quite close although there were a few obvious differences with the Dell excelling in some tests while the iMac excelled in others. The thing is that while benchmarks are useful for comparison, they aren't the most important factor for an average consumer when it comes to deciding which machine is to be purchased. It's all about preference & most importantly user experience. OS X is an excellent operating system, & many of us prefer it over Microsoft Windows. Apple hardware is really cool too, for example; the magic mouse & trackpad along with the multi-touch gesture support built in to OS X really improves productivity. The availability & quality of applications is another factor that motivates people to choose one platform over the other. In fact, the quality of applications is one thing that puts iOS above Android. Lets not forget how seamlessly Apple products integrate with each other, thereby improving productivity & eventually the over all user experience. The Apple ecosystem is well developed, & Microsoft has finally borrowed some good ideas from it for use in Windows 8; the new Windows store is a good example of that. The problem is that the Windows store still lacks a lot of applications, & at this moment it's yet to be seen how successful Windows 8 will turn out to be on desktop computers.

Apple's build quality is pretty good, & from my personal experience; Apple's build quality is better than Dell's. Apple has excellent customer support too. Leaving that aside, some people claim that Apple's products are just "shiny, over priced pieces of crap". Those people really need to learn a thing or two about marketing & product design. Based on a lot of research, it's safe to conclude that consumers love products that look elegant & well-designed. That is why Apple does the right thing by focusing on both the exterior & interior of their products. All of these benefits combined with a good brand image allow Apple to make use of something called premium pricing to an extent. Basically premium pricing allows Apple to charge a slightly higher price for their products for the purpose of establishing a good image & bringing a sense of uniqueness to their products. I doubt they always employ premium pricing though, I posted a link to an article earlier discussing why the iPhone charger is too expensive, & it turned out that it was indeed worth the price it was being charged at. In any case, a person should use the product they prefer or that which best suits their needs. There is no point in constantly complaining about Apple or calling them evil, seeing as it's simply a multinational company that focuses on not only making a good product, but on improving their bottom line too.
 
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