Apache-Chinook choppers deal to be signed soon

[Hindustani78]

The new 22 Apache attack and 15 heavy lift Chinook helicopters are meant to replace the military's ageing Soviet-origin choppers.

"Both have been cleared," a defence ministry source told news agency Reuters.

The initial batch of Apache helicopters is meant to replace the Indian Air Force's ageing fleet of Soviet-era Mi-35 attack choppers and will be armed with Hellfire and Stinger missiles.

The Indian Army has separately requested a fleet of at least 39 of these attack aircraft, some of which it wants to deploy as part of a new mountain division it is raising along the disputed border with China, according to sources.

Story First Published: September 22, 2015 15:56 IST

 

[NKVD]

Patience of USA paid off.

BTW, I hope IAF take care of these like their babies. That too like a single child. No crash or even scratch please in peacetime.
Don't forget to do Coconut break ceremony , Nanaz, wahe Guru Ji da path, mata rani ki Chunri, Idol of Ganesh Ji on dashboard. Don't take any chance .
(Jeez the list got really long)
From my side:
Om Shri Ganeshay Namah!!

Patience ,Well they Know its just a Tip Of the Iceberg

 

[Abingdonboy]

still if when we are spending tht much why not get these radar for all, never understood what our forces think when they buying these things , so lets hope for thr best

Like I have pointed out the Apaches are intended to operate like this-in packs all linked together providing a large operational picture. The US army operates a 1:3 ratio between longbow-equipped and non-longbow equipped Apaches. it is simply more cost effective and practical than having all Apaches have the longbow. Every new system requires more maintenance, more spares, more logistics- why bother when you can get a similar performance from networking your assets together?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Patience of USA paid off.

BTW, I hope IAF take care of these like their babies. That too like a single child. No crash or even scratch please in peacetime.
Don't forget to do Coconut break ceremony , Nanaz, wahe Guru Ji da path, mata rani ki Chunri, Idol of Ganesh Ji on dashboard. Don't take any chance .
(Jeez the list got really long)
From my side:
Om Shri Ganeshay Namah!!

How many Mi-35 have the IAF lost over a long period of operations? Almost none and that too despite having deployed them in live combat.

Have no doubt that world class IAF maintenance and foolproof US warranties will take care of these babies nicely.

I am not sure of that either - It seems that IAF wants only one squadron with Longbow configuration.


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That's not how it would work my friend. Of this 22 the IAF will form 2 SQNs of mixed (longbow/non-longbow) units so as to maximise the performance of the fleet as a whole as outlined in my post above.

 

[Hindustani78]

Battle of the legendary helicopters

APACHE LONGBOW VS AH1Z

It's not easy to compare two attack choppers. Having said that if we have to do it then we should. So here we go.

Aspects of comparison between Apache and AH1Z

1 Take off weight

2 useful load

3 Radar

4 Engine

5 weapons

1 Take off weight .
Both aircraft doing fairly well with above 8000 kg. But Apache can lift off with mind-boggling crazy load of worth 10,433 kg against Just 8, 390 kg of AH1Z . Differences are not even comparable. Huge advantage for Apache

2) Useful Load :Very important aspect. As no one cares about total weight of an attack chopper but what it can carry to destroy it's targets. And we all know operating an weapon system like these have to to more economical.
AH1z has empty weight of around 5,580kg with maximum take of weight of 8,390 kg. Which means this copter can carry weapon load of 2,620 kg.

This is where the brut strength of Apache can be felt. With empty weight of 5,165kg it's strong and rigid airframe
allows it to carry max take off weight of massive 10,433 kg. So in terms of efficiency in carrying out deadly missions Apache wins like a champ with no much of a hassles against its counterparts.

3) Radar : This is very important aspect of modern day warfare. An radar mounted on these attack choppers will give massive advantage against its enemies weapon system and for carrying out its task with ease.
It's A fire-control radar (FCR) is a radar that is designed specifically to provide information (mainly target azimuth, elevation, range and velocity) to a fire-control system in order to calculate a firing solution (i.e., information on how to direct weapons such that they hit the target(s)). A typical radar emits a narrow, intense beam of radio waves to ensure accurate tracking information and to minimize the chance of losing track of the target. Some modern radars have a track-while-scan capability, enabling them to function simultaneously as both fire-control radar and search radar. This works either by having the radar switch between sweeping the search sector and sending directed pulses at the target to be tracked, or by using a phased-array antenna to generate multiple simultaneous radar beams that both search and track. Lockheed Martin / Northrop Grumman AN/APG-78 Longbow fire-control radar[280] (Note: can only be mounted on the AH-64D/E)

So hands down victory goes to Apache

4)Engine : Power and reliability of an engine is the most important aspect for any war machines that to for an helicopters it's even more important.

Apache Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-701C (for AH-64A/D from 1990), 1,890 shp (1,409 kW)] Rotor systems: 4 blade main rotor,4 blade tail rotor in non-orthogonal alignment

AH1Z : Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-401C turboshaft, 1,800 shp (1,340 kW) each
Rotor systems: 4 blades on main rotor, 4 blades on tail rotor

I don't think there is clear winner here. But since Apache helicopters has more advanced engine optimization for more range and load carrying capacity than AH1Z.

5)Last but not least. ARMAMENT :

Weapon delivery systems and variety of different types of weapons are necessary for today's high intensive warfare.

AH1z has Armament Guns: 1 x 20 mm (0.787in) M197 3-barreled gatling cannon in the A/A49E-7 turret (750 round ammo capacity)

Where as Apache helicopters standout with very impressive massive fire power with Guns: 1× 30 mm (1.18 in) M230 Chain Gun with 1,200 rounds

So with 30 mm guns and capacity to carry 1200 rounds it's a clear winner with massive 40% more fire power as far as gun system is concerned

b) Missiles and rocket pods :

Apache : Four pylon stations on the stub wings. Longbows also have a station on each wingtip for an AIM-92 Stinger twin missile pack.

Rockets: Hydra 70 mm, and CRV7 70 mm air-to-ground rockets Missiles: Typically AGM-114 Hellfire variants; AIM-92 Stinger may also be carried.

AH1z : Up to 6 pylon stations on stub wing
Rockets: 2.75 in (70 mm) Hydra 70 or APKWS II[33] rockets – Mounted in LAU-68C/A (7 shot) or LAU-61D/A (19 shot) launchers
Missiles:
AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles – 1 mounted on each wing tip station (total of 2)
AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-surface missiles – Up to 16 missiles mounted in four 4-round M272 missile launchers, two on each wing.
Over all both doing fairly well even when AH1Z can carry AIM 9 sidewinder as an advantage but the operational need for an ground attack role capacity and capabilities are one sided towards Apache with massive 1200- 30 mm rounds and with 2- 70 mm rocket pods + 8 AGM-114 Hellfire variants; (Note AIM-92 Stinger may also be carried (2 numbers) on its wing tip stations too) .

That's whole new level of helicopter warfare. I don't think comparing each sensors are necessary as Apache with its multiple mode overall capabilities will have land sliding victory over any thing in its category till date.
To be precise

So these above comparisons gives a huge victory for Apache. This war machine now will give Indian armed forces ground breaking advantage in Asian terrains with desserts, jungle and mountains. IAF deserves such a capability which was long over due. 22 Apache been ordered today by Government of India will go to Indian Airforce. Another 39 or more is been planned for Indian Army Aviation Corp .

With Indigenously developed Light combat aircraft looks promising. APACHE LCH combo will be our spear head in defense and much needed CSD

Massive respect for Modi ji government! RESPECT... For those who created this beast called Apache Longbow!!!

If the Government of India selects the Boeing-US Army proposal, the Government of India will request a possible sale of 50 T700-GE-701D engines, 12 AN/APG-78 Fire Control Radars, 12 AN/APR-48A Radar Frequency Interferometers, 812 AGM-114L-3 Hellfire missiles, 542 AGM-114R-3 Hellfire II missiles, 245 Stinger Block I-92H missiles and 23 Modernized Target Acquisition Designation Sight/Pilot Night Vision Sensors.

Also there can be request for rockets, training and dummy missiles, 30mm ammunition, transponders, simulators, global positioning system/inertial navigation systems, communication equipment, spare and repair parts, tools and test equipment, support equipment, repair and return support, personnel training and training equipment publications and technical documentation.

Moreover, India will require US Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services and other related elements of logistics support to be provided in conjunction with a proposed direct commercial sale of 22 AH-64D Block III Apache Helicopters.

According to a Boeing official, India would get the Block-III helicopter the same version that was being acquired by the US Army. The Block-III came on the assembly line in 2010 equipped with improved target detection, increased situational awareness and survivability.

The induction of Apache in the Indian Air Force would greatly enhance the firepower of the Army and its anti armor capabilities.

The Hellfire (Helicopter launched fire and forget) missile is considered most lethal and can destroy any battle tank at a distance of 8 km.

It would prove to be the real tank killer during the conflict and in order to prevent the advance of the armored columns of the enemy, the Hellfire would rain total destruction on the enemy tanks.

The Hellfire is equipped with a millimeter wave radar seeker and requires no further guidance after launch.

Up to 16 missiles can be loaded on an Apache Helicopter. So in the tank warfare Indian Army, though equipped with the most versatile T-90s and the Arjun tanks, would not require to deploy them.

The Apache helicopters equipped with the Hellfire missiles would take care of the advancing enemy tanks.

 

[nik22]

How many Mi-35 have the IAF lost over a long period of operations? Almost none and that too despite having deployed them in live combat.

Have no doubt that world class IAF maintenance and foolproof US warranties will take care of these babies nicely.

IAF broke the heart when C130 crashed. I understand they were trying something new with the plane. But one does not need to learn only from mistakes. They should have known it.
It felt like explosion of sindhugosh. Although sindhugosh was much more vital asset.

 

[Hindustani78]

How many Mi-35 have the IAF lost over a long period of operations? Almost none and that too despite having deployed them in live combat.

Have no doubt that world class IAF maintenance and foolproof US warranties will take care of these babies nicely.


That's not how it would work my friend. Of this 22 the IAF will form 2 SQNs of mixed (longbow/non-longbow) units so as to maximise the performance of the fleet as a whole as outlined in my post above.

Army to get Rudra choppers, armed with missiles and rockets in Aug - The Times of India

The first squadron of ``Rudra'' helicopters, the weaponised version of ``Dhruv'' advanced light helicopters (ALH) manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), will be raised in Bangalore and later deployed in the western sector facing Pakistan, said sources.

While not in the class of heavy-duty ``attack'' helicopters, which have greater combat capabilities and armour protection, each Rudra will be armed with a chin-mounted 12.7mm canon, 70mm rockets, Magic Matra air-to-air missiles and anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs) to form a ``deadly package'' against enemy forces.

"The difference between attack and armed helicopters is blurring. The Rudras will constitute the third dimensional maneuver arm to provide ground commanders with a lethal edge,'' said a source.

"The ALHs did excellent rescue work in Uttarakhand recently. With combat firepower, speed and mobility, they will prove their worth in military operations too. While a Dhruv costs Rs 47 crore, each Rudra comes for Rs 71 crore,'' he added.

The Army will initially induct six squadrons (10 helicopters each) of the Rudras, named after the Rigvedic god of the tempest. The first two squadrons will have imported ATGMs but the next four will have the indigenously-developed Nag-Helina ATGMs with a four-km strike range.

While the Army's Aviation Corps (AAC) currently operates around 190 ageing Cheetah/Chetak helicopters as well as 70 Dhruv ALHs, attack and medium-lift helicopters were so far the IAF's preserve only.

The Army for long had been demanding ``full command and control'' over ``tactical air assets'' for rapid deployment, holding that IAF can retain its ``larger strategic role''. Finally, in a bid to resolve the long-standing battles, the defence ministry last year decided ``future'' procurements of attack helicopters will be for Army. IAF, however, will get the 22 AH-64D Apache Longbow attack helicopters to be acquired from the US for over $1.4 billion.

Induction of Rudras marks a significant boost to Army's endeavour to build its own ``mini'' air force. The raising of ``aviation brigades'' for each of the 1.13-million strong Army's three ``strike'' and 10 ``pivot'' corps (each has around 75,000 soldiers) has already kicked off.

The force wants one attack helicopter squadron each for its three ``strike'' formations - 1 Corps (Mathura), 2 Corps (Ambala) and 21 Corps (Bhopal) — in keeping with their primary offensive role. Moreover, it has plans to induct 114 Rudras for the remaining 10 `pivot' corps.

The force's long-term plans include a squadron each of attack/armed, reconnaissance/observation and tactical battle-support helicopters for all the 13 corps. In addition, the force wants each of its six regional or operational commands to get ``a flight'' of five fixed-wing aircraft for tactical airlift of troops and equipment.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

From space battle forum . Very interesting comparison indeed.

Sorry to burst a few bubbles of yours, my apologies for that, just because of your ill informed analysis.
AH-64D is no doubt a superior machine but AH-1Z does almost all of its job + greater speed.
That's why US Marines opted for AH-1Z instead of AH-64, otherwise they could go for Apache just like Brits.

- Mast mounted Longbow radar with both air and ground search mode capability. The AH-1 has no radar whatsoever. The Apache will see it first from much further way.

AH-1Z carries similar radar system called COBRA RADAR SYSTEM but in some versions, though its not clear at the moment that PA opted for same version or not.

- Can carry 4x Stinger missiles. While the Ah-1 can carry them as well the wiki makes no mention of the Ah-1Z version being equipped to do so. This is effectively an "I WIN" button for the Apache pilot.

Well if you have Sidewinders on your wingtips, even with the full-load configuration, you might not miss the tiny Stingers in the battle field.

- Not to mention the Apache can use the radar guided version of the Hellfire missile. It has known secondary ability to hit aerial targets such as slow moving aircraft and helicopters. The Commanche is stuck with the old laser guided version intended for anti tank use only

Vipers with the COBRA RADAR can be equipped with Hellfire Block-2 as well, for the stated purpose.

- Overall the Apache is lot more bigger and durable. It has two engines instead of one and both are armored. The Ah-1Z has only one single engine with less armor protection.

Maybe you should see an eye specialist before going fully blind.
Other guys might wana count the engines again.

 

[Ind4Ever]

I guess you missed the 'D' in my post - '701D' is the upgraded version of '701C' and has an engine power of 1,994 shp (1,487 kW) against 1,890 shp (1,409 kW) of '701C'.

The Block III features an upgraded transmission to cater for the increased thrust (3,400 shp) of the twin T700-GE-701D engines which are now fitted with an enhanced digital engine control unit. The Block III is faster by 28 kmph (combat speed of 303 kmph) as result of improved thrust, composite main rotor blades and better aerodynamics. Block III is able to hover at 6,000 feet at a temperature of 35 degrees centigrade with a payload of 1.5 tonne. The older versions were only capable of hover at 4,000 feet with lesser payload at the same temperature.It uses a greater proportion of composites (up to 30 per cent), with the main rotor blades and spars, equipment fairings and tail stabiliser made entirely of composites.



I am not sure of that either - It seems that IAF wants only one squadron with Longbow configuration.



The thread was merged - the deal has been cleared and will be signed on PM's visit to US later this month - Modi signs off on Boeing military helicopter deal before U.S. trip | Reuters

LOL yes I missed this bloody D. So it's even more powerful than C version with more hp. What a deal at this price tag. Russians or French could had sacked our blood sighting capabilities of this aircraft. Huge advantage over anything China can come up with.

Great job buddy. Good info. And tell the truth what you do? You don't look like college student what ever the reason keep up your great work brother. Tag me here and there with interesting information. Even though I can't reply ASAP I will go through

Sorry to burst a few bubbles of yours, my apologies for that, just because of your ill informed analysis.
AH-64D is no doubt a superior machine but AH-1Z does almost all of its job + greater speed.
That's why US Marines opted for AH-1Z instead of AH-64, otherwise they could go for Apache just like Brits.



AH-1Z carries similar radar system called COBRA RADAR SYSTEM but in some versions, though its not clear at the moment that PA opted for same version or not.

Well if you have Sidewinders on your wingtips, even with the full-load configuration, you might not miss the tiny Stingers in the battle field.

Vipers with the COBRA RADAR can be equipped with Hellfire Block-2 as well, for the stated purpose.



Maybe you should see an eye specialist before going fully blind.
Other guys might wana count the engines again.

Actually you busted your own bubble. My condolences. That was from another forum by another member. I have given in detail why Apache is superior to AH1Z. So rebut me on that my that's mime and I will own it. What ever the mistakes I may have made.

Let's debate

Sorry to burst a few bubbles of yours, my apologies for that, just because of your ill informed analysis.
AH-64D is no doubt a superior machine but AH-1Z does almost all of its job + greater speed.
That's why US Marines opted for AH-1Z instead of AH-64, otherwise they could go for Apache just like Brits.



AH-1Z carries similar radar system called COBRA RADAR SYSTEM but in some versions, though its not clear at the moment that PA opted for same version or not.

Well if you have Sidewinders on your wingtips, even with the full-load configuration, you might not miss the tiny Stingers in the battle field.

Vipers with the COBRA RADAR can be equipped with Hellfire Block-2 as well, for the stated purpose.



Maybe you should see an eye specialist before going fully blind.
Other guys might wana count the engines again.

Bubble buster ... NOW TAKE THIS.

It's are easy to compare two attack choppers. Having said that if we have to do it then we should. So here we go.

Aspects of comparison between Apache and AH1Z

1 Take off weight

2 useful load

3 Radar

4 Engine

5 weapons

1 Take off weight .
Both aircraft doing fairly well with above 8000 kg. But Apache can lift off with mind-boggling crazy load of worth 10,433 kg against Just 8, 390 kg of AH1Z . Differences are not even comparable. Huge advantage for Apache

2) Useful Load : Now this very important aspect. As no one cares about total weight of an attack chopper but what it can carry to destroy it's targets. And we all know operating an weapon system like these have to to more economical.
AH1z has empty weight of around 5,580kg with maximum take of weight of 8,390 kg. Which means this copter can carry weapon load of 2,620 kg.

This is where the brut strength of Apache can be felt. With empty weight of 5,165kg it's strong and rigid airframe
allows it to carry max take off weight of massive 10,433 kg. So in terms of efficiency in carrying out deadly missions Apache wins like a champ with no much of a hassles against its counterparts.

3) Radar : This is very important aspect of modern day warfare. An radar mounted on these attack choppers will give massive advantage against its enemies weapon system and for carrying out its task with ease.
It's A fire-control radar (FCR) is a radar that is designed specifically to provide information (mainly target azimuth, elevation, range and velocity) to a fire-control system in order to calculate a firing solution (i.e., information on how to direct weapons such that they hit the target(s)). A typical radar emits a narrow, intense beam of radio waves to ensure accurate tracking information and to minimize the chance of losing track of the target. Some modern radars have a track-while-scan capability, enabling them to function simultaneously as both fire-control radar and search radar. This works either by having the radar switch between sweeping the search sector and sending directed pulses at the target to be tracked, or by using a phased-array antenna to generate multiple simultaneous radar beams that both search and track. Lockheed Martin / Northrop Grumman AN/APG-78 Longbow fire-control radar[280] (Note: can only be mounted on the AH-64D/E)

So hands down victory goes to Apache

4)Engine : Power and reliability of an engine is the most important aspect for any war machines that to for an helicopters it's even more important.

Apache Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-701C (for AH-64A/D from 1990), 1,890 shp (1,409 kW)] Rotor systems: 4 blade main rotor,4 blade tail rotor in non-orthogonal alignment

AH1Z : Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-401C turboshaft, 1,800 shp (1,340 kW) each
Rotor systems: 4 blades on main rotor, 4 blades on tail rotor

I don't think there is clear winner here. But since Apache helicopters has more advanced engine optimization for more range and load carrying capacity than AH1Z.

5)Last but not least. ARMAMENT :

Weapon delivery systems and variety of different types of weapons are necessary for today's high intensive warfare.

AH1z has Armament Guns: 1 x 20 mm (0.787in) M197 3-barreled gatling cannon in the A/A49E-7 turret (750 round ammo capacity)

Where as Apache helicopters standout with very impressive massive fire power with Guns: 1× 30 mm (1.18 in) M230 Chain Gun with 1,200 rounds

So with 30 mm guns and capacity to carry 1200 rounds it's a clear winner with massive 40% more fire power as far as gun system is concerned

b) Missiles and rocket pods :

Apache : Four pylon stations on the stub wings. Longbows also have a station on each wingtip for an AIM-92 Stinger twin missile pack.

Rockets: Hydra 70 mm, and CRV7 70 mm air-to-ground rockets Missiles: Typically AGM-114 Hellfire variants; AIM-92 Stinger may also be carried.

AH1z : Up to 6 pylon stations on stub wing
Rockets: 2.75 in (70 mm) Hydra 70 or APKWS II[33] rockets – Mounted in LAU-68C/A (7 shot) or LAU-61D/A (19 shot) launchers
Missiles:
AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles – 1 mounted on each wing tip station (total of 2)
AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-surface missiles – Up to 16 missiles mounted in four 4-round M272 missile launchers, two on each wing.
Over all both doing fairly well even when AH1Z can carry AIM 9 sidewinder as an advantage but the operational need for an ground attack role capacity and capabilities are one sided towards Apache with massive 1200- 30 mm rounds and with 2- 70 mm rocket pods + 8 AGM-114 Hellfire variants; (Note AIM-92 Stinger may also be carried (2 numbers) on its wing tip stations too) .

That's whole new level of helicopter warfare. I don't think comparing each sensors are necessary as Apache with its multiple mode overall capabilities will have land sliding victory over any thing in its category till date.
To be precise

So these above comparisons gives a huge victory for Apache. This war machine now will give Indian armed forces ground breaking advantage in Asian terrains with desserts, jungle and mountains. IAF deserves such a capability which was long over due. 22 Apache been ordered today by Government of India will go to Indian Airforce. Another 39 or more is been planned for Indian Army Aviation Corp .

With Indigenously developed Light combat aircraft looks promising. APACHE LCH combo will be our spear head in defense and much needed CSD

Massive respect for Modi ji government! RESPECT... For those who created this beast called Apache Longbow!!!

 

[Ind4Ever]

Sorry to burst a few bubbles of yours, my apologies for that, just because of your ill informed analysis.
AH-64D is no doubt a superior machine but AH-1Z does almost all of its job + greater speed.
That's why US Marines opted for AH-1Z instead of AH-64, otherwise they could go for Apache just like Brits.



AH-1Z carries similar radar system called COBRA RADAR SYSTEM but in some versions, though its not clear at the moment that PA opted for same version or not.

Well if you have Sidewinders on your wingtips, even with the full-load configuration, you might not miss the tiny Stingers in the battle field.

Vipers with the COBRA RADAR can be equipped with Hellfire Block-2 as well, for the stated purpose.



Maybe you should see an eye specialist before going fully blind.
Other guys might wana count the engines again.

Now what so funny is. The engine we will get is even more advanced and even more powerful. That too now Apache can fly at 6000 which is 2000 ft more...

Am quoting @Chanakya's_Chant s reply

I guess you missed the 'D' in my post - '701D' is the upgraded version of '701C' and has an engine power of 1,994 shp (1,487 kW) against 1,890 shp (1,409 kW) of '701C'.

The Block III features an upgraded transmission to cater for the increased thrust (3,400 shp) of the twin T700-GE-701D engines which are now fitted with an enhanced digital engine control unit. The Block III is faster by 28 kmph (combat speed of 303 kmph) as result of improved thrust, composite main rotor blades and better aerodynamics. Block III is able to hover at 6,000 feet at a temperature of 35 degrees centigrade with a payload of 1.5 tonne. The older versions were only capable of hover at 4,000 feet with lesser payload at the same temperature.It uses a greater proportion of composites (up to 30 per cent), with the main rotor blades and spars, equipment fairings and tail stabiliser made entirely of composites.

Now don't even compare both. Totally irrelevant.

 

[Hindustani78]

Boeing AH-64 Apache

Name: Boeing AH-64 Apache
Manufacturer: Hughes Hel.,McDonnell Douglas,Boeing
Country: USA Designed By: Hughes Helicopters
Role: Attack Helicopter
Type: Four-bladed
First Flight: 1975.
No. Built: 1,200
Crew: 2 Capacity: 2
Length: 58.17 ft (17.73 m)
Rotor: 48 ft 0 in (14.63 m)
Height: 12.7 ft (3.87 m)
Fuselage Length: 49 ft 5 in (15.06 m)

Empty Weight: 11,387 lb (5,165 kg)
Max. Weight: 23,000 lb (10,433 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700
Power: 1,490 kW each
Max. Speed: 197 knots (227 mph, 365 km/h)
Range: 257 nmi (295 mi, 476 km)
Serv. Ceiling: 21,000 ft (6,400 m)
Rate of Climb: 2,500 ft/min (12.7 m/s)


Bell AH-1Z Viper
Name: Bell AH-1Z Viper
Manufacturer: Bell Helicopter
Country: USA
Designed By: Bell Helicopter
Role: Attack Helicopter
Type: Four-bladed
First Flight: 2000.
No. Built: 130
Crew: 2
Capacity: 2
Length: 58 ft 3 in (17.8 m)
Rotor: 48 ft (14.6 m)
Height: 14 ft 4 in (4.37 m)
Disc Area: 1,808 ft² (168.0 m²)

Empty Weight: 12,300 lb (5,580 kg)
Max. Weight: 18,500 lb (8,390 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-401C
Power: 1,800 shp (1,300 kW) each
Max. Speed: 222 knots (255 mph, 411 km/h)
Range: 370 nmi (426 mi, 685 km)
Serv. Ceiling: 20,000+ ft (6,100+ m)
Rate of Climb: 2,790 ft/min (14.2 m/s)

 

[Ind4Ever]

If the Government of India selects the Boeing-US Army proposal, the Government of India will request a possible sale of 50 T700-GE-701D engines, 12 AN/APG-78 Fire Control Radars, 12 AN/APR-48A Radar Frequency Interferometers, 812 AGM-114L-3 Hellfire missiles, 542 AGM-114R-3 Hellfire II missiles, 245 Stinger Block I-92H missiles and 23 Modernized Target Acquisition Designation Sight/Pilot Night Vision Sensors.

Also there can be request for rockets, training and dummy missiles, 30mm ammunition, transponders, simulators, global positioning system/inertial navigation systems, communication equipment, spare and repair parts, tools and test equipment, support equipment, repair and return support, personnel training and training equipment publications and technical documentation.

Moreover, India will require US Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services and other related elements of logistics support to be provided in conjunction with a proposed direct commercial sale of 22 AH-64D Block III Apache Helicopters.

According to a Boeing official, India would get the Block-III helicopter the same version that was being acquired by the US Army. The Block-III came on the assembly line in 2010 equipped with improved target detection, increased situational awareness and survivability.

The induction of Apache in the Indian Air Force would greatly enhance the firepower of the Army and its anti armor capabilities.

The Hellfire (Helicopter launched fire and forget) missile is considered most lethal and can destroy any battle tank at a distance of 8 km.

It would prove to be the real tank killer during the conflict and in order to prevent the advance of the armored columns of the enemy, the Hellfire would rain total destruction on the enemy tanks.

The Hellfire is equipped with a millimeter wave radar seeker and requires no further guidance after launch.

Up to 16 missiles can be loaded on an Apache Helicopter. So in the tank warfare Indian Army, though equipped with the most versatile T-90s and the Arjun tanks, would not require to deploy them.

The Apache helicopters equipped with the Hellfire missiles would take care of the advancing enemy tanks.

First class

Boeing AH-64 Apache

Name: Boeing AH-64 Apache
Manufacturer: Hughes Hel.,McDonnell Douglas,Boeing
Country: USA Designed By: Hughes Helicopters
Role: Attack Helicopter
Type: Four-bladed
First Flight: 1975.
No. Built: 1,200
Crew: 2 Capacity: 2
Length: 58.17 ft (17.73 m)
Rotor: 48 ft 0 in (14.63 m)
Height: 12.7 ft (3.87 m)
Fuselage Length: 49 ft 5 in (15.06 m)

Empty Weight: 11,387 lb (5,165 kg)
Max. Weight: 23,000 lb (10,433 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700
Power: 1,490 kW each
Max. Speed: 197 knots (227 mph, 365 km/h)
Range: 257 nmi (295 mi, 476 km)
Serv. Ceiling: 21,000 ft (6,400 m)
Rate of Climb: 2,500 ft/min (12.7 m/s)


Bell AH-1Z Viper
Name: Bell AH-1Z Viper
Manufacturer: Bell Helicopter
Country: USA
Designed By: Bell Helicopter
Role: Attack Helicopter
Type: Four-bladed
First Flight: 2000.
No. Built: 130
Crew: 2
Capacity: 2
Length: 58 ft 3 in (17.8 m)
Rotor: 48 ft (14.6 m)
Height: 14 ft 4 in (4.37 m)
Disc Area: 1,808 ft² (168.0 m²)

Empty Weight: 12,300 lb (5,580 kg)
Max. Weight: 18,500 lb (8,390 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-401C
Power: 1,800 shp (1,300 kW) each
Max. Speed: 222 knots (255 mph, 411 km/h)
Range: 370 nmi (426 mi, 685 km)
Serv. Ceiling: 20,000+ ft (6,100+ m)
Rate of Climb: 2,790 ft/min (14.2 m/s)

Brother it's in general characteristics. New engine will be T701 D which is something most powerful than all others which includes AH1Z power planet. Massive differences.

 

[Hindustani78]

First class



Brother it's in general characteristics. New engine will be T701 D which is something most powerful than all others which includes AH1Z power planet. Massive differences.

Interesting read
http://www.atecpower.net/documents/pr-me-atec-UTC-100814.pdf

 

[Ind4Ever]

Interesting read
http://www.atecpower.net/documents/pr-me-atec-UTC-100814.pdf

What is it download

 

[sathya]

Why don't army order in this month itself ?

Why are risking 40% price hike ?