Any enemy of China is an enemy of Pakistan: Pakistan Army Chief Gen Raheel Sharif

[Viper0011.]

Pakistan is maturing and developing in the right direction. From the military government of Musharraf in 2000-2007, to the current democratic government now. I am not saying that the current government in Pakistan is 'perfect', but it definitely has a lot more transparency than the one when Musharraf was in power. There was no judicial independence during that time, and the Army was practically in control. Now, the current government government and is a Civil Government.

Pakistan's democracy is rather young, in practical modern sense. But she has accomplished so much since representative and participatory democracy was reestablished in the country. I mean its just been what? 8 years? So far, so good. I am very, very , very optimistic about Pakistan's development and political maturity in the next 2-3 decades.

I have so much hopes for this beautiful nation.

To some Pakistani members who always want the military to be in charge due to their affiliation, the above post should be another eye opener as to how your internal affairs are deemed across the ocean. Our respected member from the above post, is sitting in Japan, but as you can see, he and others reading this elsewhere, have TOTAL command over Pakistan's situation, military vs. civilian rule and benefits of democracy and what it brings to the entire country, aka, a better and safer future, and a growing economy. The answer to all Pakistan's internal issues was a democratic system that produces. There is one now and the globe knows that its producing much better than anything since the birth of Pakistan.

But thank you for such insightful posts and wishes for the Pakistani nation @Nihonjin1051 . I am sure folks reading these would appreciate it.

@Horus @Oscar @Jango : will one of you please give positive ratings to our respected Japanese member? I don't have the authority....

 

[Haroon Qureshi]

Remember what we did when your idiotic police arrested one of our diplomat!!! Sorry Kiddo we do jobs that's best for our bussiness not to anyone

When did Pakistani police arrested your diplomat ?

 

[Sarjen29]

When did Pakistani police arrested your diplomat ?

Dude not pakitani police... US did

 

[Indus Pakistan]

My final thoughts on this are. The definition of enemy is " person who is actively opposed or hostile to someone or something".

Since no country in Asia has declared they are enemy of China and that includes our friend Turkey the statement by COAS has no bearing or of any concern to anybody. The said statement is of only currency to those who declare or are enemies of China. Since all states are in pursuit of peace I can't see the problem in what the COAS said as even the friendly visit by PM Erdogan to Turkey demonstrated. Even brothers can have differances.

From what I know no country is enemy of China and non has stated such.

@atatwolf I have had many discussions with fellow Turks. Most understand we all are prisoners of our geostrategic location and our economies. As friends they understand that we operate within those bounds and try to secure the best options. Not a easy thing to do but those of us who are not super powers we have limited choices.

 

[Viper0011.]

I assume the Pakistani generall didnt mean it..
Hassan Nissar said "We Pakistani are emotional fool".. Diplomacy doesnt run on emotion, its work on rational thinking...

He meant every word of it, in terms of countering India trying to support terrorism and roadblocks in the way of the CPEC project. So this statement was meant for India if you read the thread all the way. Outside of India, Pakistan doesn't have enemies or military presence or even a need to project a power. So Pakistan's military ambitions are always defensive in nature and focused on India.

Whether Pakistanis are emotional fools or not. Their diplomacy is running VERY well. They have very good relationship with the US, the Brists, now coming up is France, obviously great relationship with China, Turkey and Japan, and now with the Russians.....in less then 3 years of the civilian government's time in the office, they have made serious strides in creating new friends and allies across the globe. The results of these new relationships and strengthening of existing relationships are visible through the expanding economy and international investments too.

So, good work Team Pakistan (both Civilian government and the Military), go ahead and take the 12th top economy spot in the next 10-15 years and turn Pakistan into a safe, tolerant, modern and growing economy !!!

 

[Haroon Qureshi]

Dude not pakitani police... US did

Guy you were answering to is a fellow Pakistani.

 

[Sarjen29]

Guy you were answering to is a fellow Pakistani.

Viper is pakistani?? he has US flags.. i thought he's a American

 

[Viper0011.]

We pay for what we buy

then based on your logic......Pakistan doesn't buy??? That can mean two things. 1): you don't know what you are talking about and can be proven wrong easily.
2): Pakistan is then a lot better in foreign policy and building relationships than India? That they don't buy and use their money or credit, they get investments and partnership assistance......that's much better.

What's better? you spending $ 100 you have on something all the way? Or you spending $ 50 and your partner in trade HAPPILY spending $ 50 with you as they know they'll get better returns on their $ 50??? The $ 50 you saved, can be used in another big project with someone else's $ 50 in partnership. This is GREAT business benefiting many.

I'd take number 2 over number 1 ALL week long and twice on Saturday and Sundays!

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Japan and Pakistan are Strategic Partners, Brother Civilizations, Partners for Peace since the genesis of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Long have our relationship stood the test of time, seen the collapse of common foes (the USSR) and the rise of democracy and transparency in around our respective neighborhoods. Long shall Japan work with Pakistan, our Brother , for the common goal of peace, security. Japan considers Pakistan a Friend, and I deign to say that Pakistan considers Japan a Friend.


Japanese-Pakistani National Relations operate independently of the 'China Factor'. Period.

I am proud to be part of Japanese Tsunami fund campaign as a a duty for all the help and support we have got from you in the time of need

 

[Viper0011.]

Viper is pakistani?? he has US flags.. i thought he's a American

I am an American (and VERY American at that) . But I will write the truth. If you read my posts talking about Israel and related issues; you might think I am a Jewish brother.

You got to be fair to the situation, and speak the truth. Nationality has nothing to do with the discussion in hand

 

[Aepsilons]

I am proud to be part of Japanese Tsunami fund campaign as a a duty for all the help and support we have got from you in the time of need

Thank You, my Brother. I speak on behalf of the entire Japanese People, Thank You....it means a lot to us ...!

 

[Indus Pakistan]

How potent is that word "enemy"? Well there are 193 member countries in United Nations. I only regard one, repeat just one,India as Pakistan's enemy. The rest are very good brothers ( Turkey ) very good friends ( China ) indifferant to ( Nigeria) don't know who they are ( Gabon ) to estranged brothers ( Afghanistan ) to just pure simple enemy. India.

Now I am off to eat boys and ( galls )

 

[mike2000 is back]

What China is for Pakistan, Japan is for Turkey. Japan is helping Turkey with a lot of stuff which is based on mutual interests. It is not a master-slave relation. Japan is one of the sane actors in the region and we will help them build up the region and zone of influence.

Hmmmmm.......i know Japan has normal relations with Turkey, just like maby european powers like Britain,France,Germany, and even China. I never knew there was any sweeter than honey relationship between Japan and Turkey.lol

In fact bar the Uygur issue, i will say Sino -Turkish relations are even way ahead of Japanese -Turkish relations from military to economic field.

For example sino-turksih trade stands at over 30 billion dollars as of last year, while turkey-japan trade is barely 5 billion dollars.

So Turkey being For Japan what pakistan is for china is rather erroneous IMO.

 

[Sarjen29]

then based on your logic......Pakistan doesn't buy??? That can mean two things. 1): you don't know what you are talking about and can be proven wrong easily.
2): Pakistan is then a lot better in foreign policy and building relationships than India? That they don't buy and use their money or credit, they get investments and partnership assistance......that's much better.

What's better? you spending $ 100 you have on something all the way? Or you spending $ 50 and your partner in trade HAPPILY spending $ 50 with you as they know they'll get better returns on their $ 50??? The $ 50 you saved, can be used in another big project with someone else's $ 50 in partnership. This is GREAT business benefiting many.

I'd take number 2 over number 1 ALL week long and twice on Saturday and Sundays!

And you never gave weapons to Pakistan as Military Aid right????

Please.. sorry to say but you're a fool to think Pakistan foreign policy is better than India's pakistan was never better than India in foreign policy this thread is one big example, just now they're correcting their mistakes. fighting for other coountries, taking sides and the list goes on.. you need to learn better on that.

What the hell are you talking.. you think India doen't have partnership projects?? Our projects are huge and already gave much punch in return. And we spend because we have on the other hand they can't so they go partnership and what did they get in partnership JF!?? yes Very capable fighter, its going to decimate Indian fighters..

 

[dray]

Well you have a new godfather in USA and "godmother" in Isreal . Having "gods" with suffix is a South Asian tradition.

Your cheated ex partner, Russia is sulking in the corner. Although your still double timing with him but your gonna have work exta time in satisfying both USA/Russia. All the best.

@21 Dec 2012 What are you on about. Everytime I go to Pakistan all I hear is most people talking about the ubiquitous Toytota. They can't live without them.

Unlike Pakistan, we never really depended so heavily on any country for our survival, both militarily and economically, neither we gifted a piece of our land as a token of our loyalty to any country, nor we allowed any country to come in and run military operations & bombing inside our country, those distinctions go to only Pakistan!