Any enemy of China is an enemy of Pakistan: Pakistan Army Chief Gen Raheel Sharif

[Indus Pakistan]

That's a great show of loyalty to the new godfather hoping that they will reciprocate in equal terms....but will they?

Well you have a new godfather in USA and "godmother" in Isreal . Having "gods" with suffix is a South Asian tradition.

Your cheated ex partner, Russia is sulking in the corner. Although your still double timing with him but your gonna have work exta time in satisfying both USA/Russia. All the best.

@21 Dec 2012 What are you on about. Everytime I go to Pakistan all I hear is most people talking about the ubiquitous Toytota. They can't live without them.

 

[Aepsilons]

Look at Pakistan roads and "land of the rising sun" rules. Toyotas, Hondas, Suzukhi, Nissan dominate.

That's the thing , my friend, there are some folks that are trying to drive a wedge between the Pakistani-Japanese Brotherhood because a supposition that China-Pakistan and Japan-India rapproachment. Only folks that are that dim would think that way, and fail to see that the relationship Japan has with Pakistan is all inclusive. In fact, Japan has a policy of 'Omnidirectionality' with South Asian countries that includes Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan.

Centrifugal to this Omnidirectionality is Japanese abiding to the notion of non-interference in the internal affairs of these nations, our partner states. This has long been truth, and will remain so for the indefinite future. Japan has no partiality here, we value our relationship with South Asia completely and work with each of the countries in the region from the grassroots level such as civil engagement, health initiative partnerships, farming and agricultural initiatives, to the higher national polity level such as energy security initiatives, infrastructure planning and delivering.

Japan has no 'Divide Et Impera' agenda in South Asia because the region (South Asia) is a new frontier for Japan in terms of trade and development. As I said before and as what Japanese academia have purported plenty of times, the engines of growth in Asia will be in South Asia. A region that is home to over 1.6 Billion people (nearing 1.7 billion).

You can bet that Japan will be an ACTIVE partner in the development of South Asia , for sure !!

 

[21 Dec 2012]

That's the thing , my friend, there are some folks that are trying to drive a wedge between the Pakistani-Japanese Brotherhood because a supposition that China-Pakistan and Japan-India rapproachment. Only folks that are that dim would think that way, and fail to see that the relationship Japan has with Pakistan is all inclusive. In fact, Japan has a policy of 'Omnidirectionality' with South Asian countries that includes Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan.

Centrifugal to this Omnidirectionality is Japanese abiding to the notion of non-interference in the internal affairs of these nations, our partner states. This has long been truth, and will remain so for the indefinite future. Japan has no partiality here, we value our relationship with South Asia completely and work with each of the countries in the region form the grassroots level such as civil engagement, health initiative partnerships, farming and agricultural initiatives, to the higher national polity level such as energy security initatives, infrastructure planning and delivering.

Japan has no 'Divide Et Impera' agenda in South Asia because the region (South Asia) is a new frontier for Japan in terms of trade and development. As I said before and as what Japanese academia have purported plenty of times, the engines of growth in Asia will be in South Asia. A region that is home to over 1.6 Billion people (nearing 1.7 billion).

You can bet that Japan will be an ACTIVE partner in the development of South Asia , for sure !!

Then what do you make of PA Chief's (de facto centre of power in IRP) statement that Chin's enemy are theirs?

 

[Viper0011.]

This is the problem with Pakistan military and political leadership, why Pakistan need this type of statement to be issued that put pressure on Japan, Vietnam, Philipines, etc countries. I am not bashing but in international diplomacy it seems Pakistan need to learn a lot
@WAJsal , @Irfan Baloch , @Imran Khan ,@MilSpec @nair

You seem very hurt. This statement is really focused on India to be frank. The US, the Brits, the Russians, the Japanese, other far eastern countries and the ME nations, already enjoy good friendly relationships with Pakistan and have no beef with Pakistan. So this has nothing to do with any of them. This is JUST focused on India to be very frank.

Here's how the rest of the world is looking at it. The meaning has been taken as the official announcement of a future defense pact between China and Pakistan in terms of India.

This statement is the "military translation" of the vision and relationships the civilian government of Pakistan has put in place, which are proving out to be so beneficial for Pakistan, that it would turn Pakistan into a modern and economically strong country very quickly. So against all aggression the economic corridor project is facing (terrorism, violence supported by India), this statement pretty much puts it out there that the project is unstoppable and that interference into these strategic initiitves by anyone (really India) could result into consequences from both, the Chinese and the Pakistanis. China has interest in this economci corridor MUCH beyond Pakistan. This will also link over $ 50 billion worth of trade by road between Iran and China, through Pakistan, and eventually to other ME countries by road.....

Also, the same goes for the Central Asian states, so Pakistan must have this corridor for her growth and China must have this corridor for its strategic trade alliance to be formed through road and with much cheaper travel cost, and much faster shipping and delivery across many countries.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Lool what if Turkey keeps helping its 'opperessed' uygurs brethrens in China and sponsoring them escape chinese authorities or better still arm them to return and fight to liberate their 'homeland' Xijiang from the hans, and China tired of Turkish meddling decides to retaliate, will Pakistan also consider Turkey as de facto ennemy?
Guess China might become the ennemy instead.

 

[Spectre]

Here's how the rest of the world is looking at it. The meaning has been taken as the official announcement of a future defense pact between China and Pakistan in terms of India.

Kindly don't advertise your views as that of rest of the world in search of legitimacy.

Regards

 

[Viper0011.]

Then what do you make of PA Chief's (de facto centre of power in IRP) statement that Chin's enemy are theirs?

The statement is for India only. Has no reason to involve Japan, the US, the Russians or anyone else. This statement was made with regards to the economic corridor, and the Indian sponsored violence and terrorism, the project is facing. Pakistan has been doing hundreds of billions of trade, getting billions of aid and loans from the US, Japan, etc. Plus, historically, Pakistan has never been at real odds with anyone else but India, so the context is pretty simple. Its Indian specific from both sides, the Chinese and the Pakistani end.

Kindly don't advertise your views as that of rest of the world in search of legitimacy.

Regards

Kindly tell your Indian cousins not to add crap on here, that is extracting the meaning that Pakistan is going against the Japanese and the US. This statement was ONLY made for India by both, the Chinese and the Pakistanis. That is the end of this. There is no hidden meaning. So keep your Indian specific propaganda to yourself. This statement was made 100% with regards to countering or announcing the impact due to Indian sponsored terrorism and other difficulties being created by India, on the economic corridor project. That's it.

 

[21 Dec 2012]

The statement is for India only. Has no reason to involve Japan, the US, the Russians or anyone else. This statement was made with regards to the economic corridor, and the Indian sponsored violence and terrorism, the project is facing. Pakistan has been doing hundreds of billions of trade, getting billions of aid and loans from the US, Japan, etc. Plus, historically, Pakistan has never been at real odds with anyone else but India, so the context is pretty simple. Its Indian specific from both sides, the Chinese and the Pakistani end.

Absolutely true, and completely validated by use of the word(s)
'Any enemy of China'

I see @Nihonjin1051 is going to maintain strategic silence on this

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Lool what if Turkey keeps helping its 'opperessed' uygurs brethrens in China and sponsoring them escape chinea
Se authorities or better still arm them to return and fight to liberate their 'homeland' Xijiang from the hans, and China tired of Turkish meddling decides to retaliate, will Pakistan also consider Turkey as de facto ennemy?
Guess China might become the ennemy instead.

That is a convoluted hypothesis as improbable as asking "who would USA support if Republic of Ireland invaded Northern Ireland in a attempt to sieze it from UK".

Pakistan and Turkey see eye to eye on most things. This is not about to change anytime soon much as some would like that to happen.

As regards Japan I believe she stands for peace. I think Pakistan will side with peace thus it will stand by Japan.

Ps. Word of advice. If you have two close friends who argue or have differances you try to resolve their differances. You don't join in the fight.

 

[Viper0011.]

Absolutely true, and completely validated by use of the word(s)
'Any enemy of China'

ANY = INDIA. Everyone knows Pakistan's military is a defensive force and doesn't have hundreds of ships or a blue water navy to go beyond the Indian ocean. Heck, they've never fought a war with anyone else besides India. So if you conduct terrorism around the economic corridor and stop that progress, be aware that you might have to face consequences from both, the Chinese and the Pakistanis.

This is why, your generals in India have already been talking about a "two front war", they know they are fingering multiple people and those multiple people might punch back simultaneously.

 

[Spectre]

Kindly tell your Indian cousins not to add crap on here, that is extracting the meaning that Pakistan is going against the Japanese and the US. This statement was ONLY made for India by both, the Chinese and the Pakistanis. That is the end of this. There is no hidden meaning. So keep your Indian specific propaganda to yourself. This statement was made 100% with regards to Indian sponsored terrorism and other difficulties being created by India. That's it.

Then why not name India openly? why give a blanked statement which leads to ambiguity?

Now I don't disagree with your post but it is counter intuitive to give blanket statements and shows poor diplomatic skills which is not expected from COAS of Pakistan's Army. When Pakistan's COAS speaks the whole world takes note, not just India.

 

[Force-India]

Evey time you read this.....what? Most of your head of states, have historically struggled with English too. In fact, majority of your leaders would rather address people in Hindi then in English to show nationalism. The past two PM's in India had great multi-lingual ability but that's not always the case. Pakistan just passed a law like that too, to make Urdu their official language. The French do it as well, despite having perfect British like command over the British accent.

A leader's ability to run his or her home land isn't depending on English. It is depending upon his loyalty to the nation he presents, his business acumen and diplomacy skills. The Chinese premier doesn't speak English.......yet, the Chinese businessmen are almost in all growing nations doing hundreds of billions of work.

Similarly, I don't expect POTUS to speak Hindi on his trip to India outside of a few sentences to say to show gestures. Every leader comes from a nation and he doesn't need to proficient in a foreign language. Its good to have it, but not necessarily required.

Too serious.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

The statement is for India only. Has no reason to involve Japan, the US, the Russians or anyone else.

The statement would be for India only , had he said : "the enemy of Pakistan is an enemy of China"
rather than stating:
"Any enemy of China is an enemy of Pakistan"

The difference is not that subtle to miss, but then again

 

[Aepsilons]

Well argued, however when the most influential person in Pakistan states that any enmity with China would be considered enmity with Pakistan, Japan has to consider this statement very carefully. Now I am not at all advocating Japan is an enemy of China but sadly strategists rarely have the luxury of living in the present and have to shift through all possible future alignments when shaping policy today.

I am all for Japan - Pakistan ties but may be you would deign to concede the statement by Pakistan COAS was ill - considered and ill timed and considering Pakistan's strong relationship with Japan and USA and friction b/w these countries and China

Regards

All I will say here is that unlike China, which has territorial and security issues with India (a behemoth of 1.25 Billion) , Japan has none of that. Japan has no security issues with ANY nation in South Asia, in fact, Japan is God-Blessed in that we have a healthy, dynamic, and respectable rapport with all of South Asia. As we speak, we have nearing 800 investment firms and companies operating in Bangladesh, we are developing the Matarbari Deep Seaport , which will revolutionize the trade capacity of Bangladesh and will definite create immense job opportunities for Bangladeshis and development for Dhaka as well as Chitagong region.

In addition to that, my friend, Bangladesh has gifted Japan a 'Technological City' which will be able to accomodate over 1000 Japanese businesses in close proximity to Matarbari, these Japanese businesses means that Bangladesh (a nation of over 156 million) will be able to accomodate more Japanese investments and re-shoring. We are looking at the potential to bring infrastructure, manufacturing jobs from China to Bangladesh. You can bet that the future is exceedingly bright for Japan and Bangladesh and the partnership will only go higher.

Now, in regards to India. India is a large partner for Japan in various ways as the partnership is deep and includes cooperation in the grass roots level, the civic engagement level, infrastructure level, energy supply level, investment level, research and design level, advanced academic bilateral level, to the defense training level vis a vis Malabar. India is home to over 1,350 Japanese businesses and this number will continue to increase as trade between the two countries reaches newer heights.

Now in regards to Sri Lanka. Japan has been an active player in the revitalization of Sri Lanka post-Civil War, and have contributed medical, social aid to the rehabitation of the communities in north of the island, areas that are heavily populated by Tamils. Japan has helped revitalize Singhala communities as well and have , through the arms of JICA, supported ethnic harmony in Sri Lanka. Japan and the ADB (Asian Development Bank) have poured Billions into the creation of road way infrastructure in Sri Lanka, and to help connect the country together. As we speak Japan is vested in a new roadway , an expansion of the E02 expressway and more.

In regards to Pakistan, Japan has played a very active role in the revitalization of the Paktunwa region where low health standards continues to affect the children there , and through cooperation with the Government of Pakistan , JICA has worked in providing necessary nutritional supplementation , education services, health services. Japan and Pakistan work through necessary channels to find practical solutions to the day to day needs of the Pakistani people; such include the Japanese funding of weather monitoring systems in Pakistan, flood alert systems, funding of power generators hydrolectric material. Japan is also vested in Pakistan industry and has helped Paksitan augment its booming textile industry. These are just some examples, and do not illustrate the all inclusive and deep nature of Japan's vested interest in Pakistan. As Pakistan develops and stabilizes, there is no reason why Japanese investments can't come in ; in fact Japan will bring in more investments to Pakistan as we speak.

Interview: ‘Japanese are very interested to invest in Pakistan’ –Japanese Ambassador Hiroshi Inomata | Pakistan Today


So, let me end this by saying that Japan, as a mature and reliable partner and friend, as we have shown through history, in context to South Asia, will remain vested and an active partner in the development of South Asia. Japan wishes for STABILITY and COOPERATION in SOUTH ASIA. And I believe that Japan has a role as a conduit in which all sides and all parties in SOUTH ASIA can cooperate together and increase intraregional trade, awareness and respect.


I dare to say that.


Regards,
@Nihonjin1051

 

[Viper0011.]

Then why not name India openly? .

SORRY!!! Gen. Raheel Sharif doesn't get dictation from New Delhi, to know what he's expected to say that would go well with his Indian followers and well wishers . You can use common sense and history to understand the meaning, or you can be VERY stressed out and upset and may be scared......and derive all kinds of meanings.

I personally think the statements covers the entire globe that 500,000 strong Pakistani army will conquer and then the Aliens sitting in their own planets fearing Pakistani and Chinese forces to get there on 20000 spaceships .
Now I am acting and thinking like you, too much going on in the head. Keep it simple and you'll live a healthier life.

 

[Sanchez]

It sounds like “an enemy of US is also an enemy of NATO member countries”. It is a political statement of pro-alliance between Pakistan and China.

 

[21 Dec 2012]

ANY = INDIA. Everyone knows Pakistan's military is a defensive force and doesn't have hundreds of ships or a blue water navy to go beyond the Indian ocean. Heck, they've never fought a way with anyone else besides India. So if you conduct terrorism around the economic corridor and stop that progress, be aware that you might have to face consequences from both, the Chinese and the Pakistanis.

This is why, your generals in India have already been talking about a "two front war", they know they are fingering multiple people and those multiple people might punch back simultaneously.

ANY = INDIA
I guess you learn something new everyday

Pakistan may not have an expeditionary Navy but it has men. And it has materials. It could aid in intel and even logistically vis-a-vis Malacca Strait and really the entire Indian ocean. Of course I know the Chiefs statement is more rhetoric than reality but the statement in itself has no co-relation to the spin that you and your countrymen here are putting.