Ancient Pakistan the Defense Wall of India

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

And what about Hindu the term also given to you by as say foreign invaders Sonny

Our self designation is Sanatana Dharma and Dharmiks, Boomer

 

[khanmubashir]

Your countrymen are rejoicing the fact they let themselves be ruled by invaders, just cause they got a chance to march towards mainland India. That's quite funny really.

My dear dumb sanghi there was no India then it's invention of mughals and reinforced by British
Invader is one who attacks you .since these Invaders mostly took our alligiances on payments of loot they made from invading you so they were Invaders for you benefactors for US

 

[Varunastra]

My dear dumb sanghi there was no India then it's invention of mughals and reinforced by British
Invader is one who attacks you .since these Invaders mostly took our alligiances on payments of loot they made from invading you so they were Invaders for you benefactors for US

Sure sure record that on a tape and play that before going to sleep. "We got conquered, but it was very good" lol

 

[khanmubashir]

Our self designation is Sanatana Dharma and Dharmiks, Boomer

That's not what dumb sanghis say who wanna create Hindu rashtra not dharma rashtra my child
When you ask any one of your group who he is he doesn't say dharmic he says Hindu


That's the problem with you dumb sanghis you try to troll history. But when History trolls you
You make lame excuses which even you know are super lame

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Your countrymen are rejoicing the fact they let themselves be ruled by invaders, just cause they got a chance to march towards mainland India. That's quite funny really.

Where and when did they say that? If what you say is true then remember to post the links.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

let me look and check


@hydrabadi_arab


A contemporary writer Yahya Sirhindi mentions in his Tarikh-i-Mubarakshahi that Khizr Khan belonged to an Arab[4][5] family and was a descendant of prophet Muhammad, but his conclusion was based only on a testimony of the saint Syed Jalal-ud-Din Bukhari of Uchh Sharif while according to Muntakhab-al Lubab he was of Afghan origin.[6][non-primary source needed] Malik Mardan Daulat, the Governor of Multan, adopted Khizr Khan's father, Malik Sulaiman, as his son. Sulaiman succeeded Malik Shaikh, another son of Malik Mardan, to the governorship. After his death, Firuz Shah Tughlaq appointed Khizr Khan as governor. But in 1395, he was expelled from Multan by Sarang Khan, brother of Mallu Iqbal Khan. He fled to Mewat and later joined Timur. It is believed that before his departure, Timur appointed Khizr Khan his viceroy at Delhi although he could only establish his control over Multan, Dipalpur and parts of Sindh. Soon he started his campaign and defeated Mallu Iqbal Khan. After defeating Daulat Khan Lodi, he entered Delhivictoriously on 6 June 1414.[7]



There is no evidence that Khizr Khan is Khokar...





India is an English term that is derived from older Greeknterms to indicate the whole subcontinental landmass

Syed was adopted title by khokhar rajputs.

Here is another interesting historical tweet for you.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1386192941123702785

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Psahtun empires that managed to capture Delhi mainly orginated from the other side of the Khyber Pass

You have record of this do you? This is one of those myths that has been perpetuated by Indians and Afghans who hate Pakistan. Another myth is that River Indus apparently is some boundary which is absurd. Rivers tend to unite not divide. In your Ganga river is there divide on both sides of the banks?

indicate the whole subcontinental landmass

No. Originally it only referred to Indus Basin. Over centuries it evolved like Asia evolved to mean all of continent as new lands were discovered.

And please don't use Wiki sources on any matters that are contentious between Pakistan and India because the Indian Hindutwa army will have distorted it.

 

[Maira La]

Ancient Pakistan was not defence wall of India, it was India itself, at least the region of Sindh was. Modern India is as much India as Sub-Saharan Africa is Egypt.

Another myth is that River Indus apparently is some boundary which is absurd. Rivers tend to unite not divide. In your Ganga river is there divide on both sides of the banks?
No. Originally it only referred to Indus Basin. Over centuries it evolved like Asia evolved to mean all of continent as new lands were discovered.

Rather it's the Thar desert that constitutes the Western boundary (geographic barrier) of the "real South Asia", along with Himalayas to the North and the mountains in the North East.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Syed was adopted title by khokhar rajputs.

Here is another interesting historical tweet for you.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1386192941123702785

the map is false....ArainGang is known to have manipulated data.........

Ancient Pakistan was not defence wall of India, it was India itself, at least the region of Sindh was. Modern India is as much India as Sub-Saharan Africa is Egypt.


Rather it's the Thar desert that constitutes the Western boundary (geographic barrier) of the "real South Asia", along with Himalayas to the North and the mountains in the North East.

Listen Bangladeshi....Megasthenes and all travellers after him defined India as the subcontinental landmass.....

Rather it's the Thar desert that constitutes the Western boundary (geographic barrier) of the "real South Asia", along with Himalayas to the North and the mountains in the North East.

What borders? The Punjab plains is the proverbial four lane highway

You have record of this do you? This is one of those myths that has been perpetuated by Indians and Afghans who hate Pakistan. Another myth is that River Indus apparently is some boundary which is absurd. Rivers tend to unite not divide. In your Ganga river is there divide on both sides of the banks?
No. Originally it only referred to Indus Basin. Over centuries it evolved like Asia evolved to mean all of continent as new lands were discovered.

And please don't use Wiki sources on any matters that are contentious between Pakistan and India because the Indian Hindutwa army will have distorted it.

Arrian's Indica I am gonna quote


II. But the parts from the Indus eastward, these I shall call India, and its inhabitants Indians. The boundary of the land of India towards the north is Mount Taurus. It is not still called Taurus in this land; but Taurus begins from the sea over against Pamphylia and Lycia and Cilicia; and reaches as far as the Eastern Ocean, running right across Asia. But the mountain has different names in different places; in one, Parapamisus, in another Hemodus; elsewhere it is called Imaon, and perhaps has all sorts of other names; but the Macedonians who fought with Alexander called it Caucasus; another Caucasus, that is, not the Scythian; so that the story ran that Alexander came even to the far side of the Caucasus. The western part of India is bounded by the river Indus right down to the ocean, where the river runs out by two mouths, not joined together as are the five mouths of the Ister; but like those of the Nile, by which the Egyptian delta is formed; thus also the Indian delta is formed by the river Indus, not less than the Egyptian; and this in the Indian tongue is called Pattala. Towards the south this ocean bounds the land of India, and eastward the sea itself is the boundary. The southern part near Pattala and the mouths of the Indus were surveyed by Alexander and Macedonians, and many Greeks; as for the eastern part, Alexander did not traverse this beyond the river Hyphasis. A few historians have described the parts which are this side of the Ganges and where are the mouths of the Ganges and the city of Palimbothra, the greatest Indian city on the Ganges.

III. I hope I may be allowed to regard Eratosthenes of Cyrene as worthy of special credit, since he was a student of Geography. He states that beginning with Mount Taurus, where are the springs of the river Indus, along the Indus to the Ocean, and to the mouths of the Indus, the side of India is thirteen thousand stades in length. The opposite side to this one, that from the same mountain to the Eastern Ocean, he does not reckon as merely equal to the former side, since it has a promontory running well into the sea; the promontory stretching to about three thousand stades. So then he would make this side of India, to the eastward, a total length of sixteen thousand stades. This he gives, then, as the breadth of India. Its length, however, from west to east, up to the city of Palimbothra, he states that he gives as measured by reed-measurements; for there is a royal road; and this extends to ten thousand stades; beyond that, the information is not so certain. Those, however, who have followed common talk say that including the promontory, which runs into the sea, India extends over about ten thousand stades; but farther north its length is about twenty thousand stades. But Ctesias of Cnidus affirms that the land of India is equal in size to the rest of Asia, which is absurd; and Onesicritus is absurd, who says that India is a third of the entire world; Nearchus, for his part, states that the journey through the actual plain of India is a four months' journey. Megasthenes would have the breadth of India that from east to west which others call its length; and he says that it is of sixteen thousand stades, at its shortest stretch. From north to south, then, becomes for him its length, and it extends twenty-two thousand three hundred stades, to its narrowest point. The Indian rivers are greater than any others in Asia; greatest are the Ganges and the Indus, whence the land gets its name; each of these is greater than the Nile of Egypt and the Scythian Ister, even were these put together; my own idea is that even the Acesines is greater than the Ister and the Nile, where the Acesines having taken in the Hydaspes, Hydraotes, and Hyphasis, runs into the Indus, so that its breadth there becomes thirty stades. Possibly also other greater rivers run through the land of India.

Internet History Sourcebooks Project: Ancient History

sourcebooks.fordham.edu

Since at least 300 BC after Megasthenes visit, India meant the whole subcontinent to foireign travellers

I WILL give you that around 500 BC during Scylax of Carynda and Herodotus's time, India meant only the Indus Valley region

 

[Hiptullha]

There is no evidence that Khizr Khan is Khokar...

 

[Maira La]

Thar desert, Himalayas and Rann of Kutch cuts off much of Pakistan from India.

Punjab plains (20-23% of the border?) is the invaders only path to reach and rape Ganges Bharat.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

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the page doesnot provide any evidence that he is from Khokhar clan...just says it without any reference

 

[Hiptullha]

the page doesnot provide any evidence that he is from Khokhar clan...just says it without any reference

Source is Richard Eaton.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Thar desert, Himalayas and Rann of Kutch cuts of much of Pakistan from India.

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Punjab plains (20-23% of the border?) is the invaders only path to reach and rape Ganges lands.

and rape Punjab in the process....even the page above me says that Punjab suffered the worst shocks of Timur....and probably the same with other Turco-Mongol invasions


LOL as if Bangladesh swamp is not part of Ganges Delta

Source is Richard Eaton.

Eaton didnot provide his source where he knows Khizr Khan was a Khokhar ....

 

[Hiptullha]

Eaton didnot provide his source where he knows Khizr Khan was a Khokhar ....

I'm not sure where he got it from but he wouldn't make claims out of nowhere. Anyway rulers who claim they are Sayyid usually do it for political reasons rather than actually being able to trace their lineage back to the Holy Prophet (pbuh). Btw in this time Jasrat Khokar was ruling over Lahore at the behest of the Delhi Sultanate and went on to significantly expand his territory.