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THE SAD STORY OF THE REJECTION OF SCIENCE

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THE SAD STORY OF THE REJECTION OF SCIENCE

Pervez Hoodbhoy


President Ayub Khan looking at the glow of the nuclear reactor at PINSTECH through a special viewer in a water pool in the mid-1960s. (Courtesy: Ayub Khan Archives/ Tahir Ayub)


President Ayub Khan looking at the glow of the nuclear reactor at PINSTECH through a special viewer in a water pool in the mid-1960s. (Courtesy: Ayub Khan Archives/ Tahir Ayub)

SCIENCE matters. Many yearn for science-free times when wars were fought with swords by valiant Ertugrul-like horsemen. Quite a few want still earlier riyasats. But I have yet to meet a fellow Pakistani willing to have a bad tooth pulled out without anaesthesia or who sends emissaries instead of using a cellphone.

These days, electricity and gas loadshedding have triggered a collective nervous breakdown, while the price of petrol is all that people talk about. All of this would be utterly incomprehensible to those who lived a mere hundred years ago. Ancient civilisations had nothing even remotely similar to the science that exists today.

Like it or not, all modern science — that which is rapidly changing our world on a day-to-day basis — is the 400-year-old child of European modernity. Although many civilisations — Egyptian, Babylonian, Chinese, Indian, Greek and Arabian (chronologically ordered) — helped create that science, not enough was known earlier to create an overarching picture of a universe run by physical law. Nor did earlier civilisations use science to create functional technologies like we do today. Instead, significant advances in ancient science came from men of genius following scholarly interests rather than economic ends.

But now that civilisation on earth has become science-based, the pursuit of science is systematic and relentless. Every country is rushing to acquire mastery over it and, even more, to use it to create technologies to fulfil social desires. Although science and technology (S&T) are two different worlds, the boundary between them has blurred with time. For example, learning how cells divide was considered pure science in the 1800s. Today, it is crucial to discovering cures for cancer.




An attempt to situate Pakistan’s S&T may be made using two different lenses; to compare today’s situation with what existed in 1947 (and even earlier); and to draw parallels between Pakistan and other countries in the region. As a starting point, I will take the advent of modern education in India (as opposed to traditional education) because that is where the bifurcation between modern and conventional ways of life began.

Pre-partition situation

India during the Mughal rule saw spectacular achievements in architecture, art and administrative matters. But there was little curiosity in matters of the intellect, particularly science and philosophy. As a result, no university was built in those three centuries of otherwise brilliant rule.

Although internal feuds and succession issues were doubtless a significant cause of decline, this lack of interest in intellectual pursuits eventually led to 40-50,000 Englishmen, armed with technology and the scientific method, overpowering and crushing what had been a magnificent empire. Few understood the secret source of English power better than Mirza Ghalib. Differing from those who craved a return to past glories or who suggested picking up arms against the firangis, his thinking was quintessentially modern:

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Go, look at the sahibs of England; Go learn from them their skills and ways; From their hands have sprung wonders and wonders; Go try and see if you can excel them.

Science education in British India was spread by three principal agents: British government, Christian missionaries, and education reformers from both Hindu and Muslim communities. Whereas the Hindus had many well-known reformers, among the Muslims the only well-known one was Sir Syed Ahmad Khan. His vigorous advocacy of science and modernity as a means of uplifting Indian Muslims differed sharply from those who feared learning English and science would diminish their religious faith. He had disagreed with Ghalib earlier, but, upon reflection, he became convinced that India’s Muslims must abandon conservatism and travel new paths.

Sir Syed’s heroic efforts notwithstanding, Muslim enrolment in schools remained low. The University of Calcutta was the first secular Western-style university in India, and set standards as far away as Punjab. The requirements being rigorous by the standards of the time, only a few Muslims applied or qualified for admission. Although the populations in Bengal were proportional in size, hundreds of Hindus but just two Muslims passed the first BA examination in 1858.

Early years

Let us fast-forward to 1947. Of the 16 universities in British India, Pakistan inherited only one teaching university, i.e. the Punjab University in Lahore. Additionally, there were some 25-30 colleges in the areas that are now Pakistan. Most were in Punjab; Balochistan had none. Because Muslims had entered academia late and in fewer numbers, the senior faculty in almost all institutions of higher learning was predominantly Hindu at the time of partition. Once rioting began, they fled to India and Muslims from lower ranks filled their positions. Academic quality plummeted.

With time, education numbers slowly increased. By 1969 there were a total of eight universities in united Pakistan. The breakup and subsequent emergence of Bangladesh in 1971 temporarily froze further development. However, the quick post-partition promotions of junior faculty had profoundly debilitating consequences in terms of teaching quality. Mediocres rose to become department heads, deans, and vice-chancellors. They blocked bright young entrants lest their authority was challenged. As a result, rote learning became almost as common in universities and colleges as in schools and seminaries.

Nevertheless, in Pakistan’s early years, there were pockets of excellence in some S&T fields. I will mention only four.
Pakistan’s space programme began in 1961 with the launch of meteorological rockets provided by the United States. Initiated and headed by Professor Abdus Salam, the Space & Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (Suparco) grew rapidly in the 1960s and was more advanced than the Indian programme at the time.

Dr Abdus Salam, the 1979 Nobel Laureate in Physics, led the establishment of the Nuclear Institute PINSTECH in Islamabad in 1965. - Photo: Dawn Archives


Dr Abdus Salam, the 1979 Nobel Laureate in Physics, led the establishment of the Nuclear Institute PINSTECH in Islamabad in 1965. - Photo: Dawn Archives

Pakistan’s nuclear programme was set in place with the assistance of the US and, until 1972, had been directed towards nuclear power production and basic research. Personnel in the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) were sent abroad in the 1960s for training. Canada provided Pakistan’s first nuclear reactor, the Karachi nuclear power plant (Kanupp). The returnees successfully maintained and operated the reactor even after the withdrawal of Canadian fuel and technical support. India’s 1974 nuclear test led to Pakistan’s open desire to match the Indian bomb, causing the reversal of the West’s nuclear assistance.

In industrial engineering, there was one outstanding institution, the Batala Engineering Company. Founded by entrepreneur C.M. Latif, Beco had relocated itself to Lahore from Batala (in what is now Indian Punjab) after partition. Beco produced a diverse range of heavy and light engineering products, such as diesel engines, machine tools and lathes. Like India’s Tata Industries, it was well set on the path of high growth, but was killed by the wave of nationalisation in 1972.

The creation of Islamabad University in 1967, and in particular the Institute of Physics associated with it, was the high point of academic research in Pakistan. Founded by Riazuddin, a student of Professor Salam, the institute maintained high-quality research in the frontier area of particle physics until its decline in the mid-1970s. At its peak, it compared favourably against a mid-quality physics department in the US.

Assessing the present

Pakistan does not need any more bricks and mortar for the promotion of science becasue there is plenty of that around already, like the PINSTECH building seen above. - Photo: Dawn Archives


Pakistan does not need any more bricks and mortar for the promotion of science becasue there is plenty of that around already, like the PINSTECH building seen above. - Photo: Dawn Archives

Globalisation means no country produces more than a fraction of what it needs and consumes. The more vibrant ones produce relatively more, have higher living standards for more citizens, are better organised, and have cleaner environments. Pakistan also has these aspirations, but is far more reliant on technologies developed elsewhere, such as automobiles, locomotives, aircraft, pharmaceuticals, computers, medical instrumentation, etc.

In principle, a small ecosystem could have developed around imported technologies, but there has been insufficient improvisation and innovation. For example, the once flourishing domestic electric fan industry has been pushed out by cleverer Chinese products. The small domestic output of finished products has led to a staggering trade imbalance that has compounded over time, leading to the current economic crisis.

I have attempted to compare Pakistan’s S&T in 2022 with other countries in the region based on performance in various domains of science, but the attempt admittedly is qualitative and subjective because a proper methodical study does not exist (Table 1).

Agri-sciences: These aim at raising yields of sugar, cotton, wheat, rice, and other crops by adapting and promoting standard techniques of pesticide use, plantation patterns, sowing methods, etc. As highly practical and relatively simple sciences, they are offshoots of the 1960s Green Revolution and are crucial for feeding Pakistan’s rapidly expanding population.


Dr Salimuzzaman Siddiqui was a leading organic scientist, who established the Pakistan National Science Council and later the Hussain Ebrahim Jamal Research Institute of Chemistry. - Photo: Dawn Archives

Dr Salimuzzaman Siddiqui was a leading organic scientist, who established the Pakistan National Science Council and later the Hussain Ebrahim Jamal Research Institute of Chemistry. - Photo: Dawn Archives

Nearly a dozen Pakistani institutions, such as National Institute for Biotechnology and Genetic Engineering (NIBGE), seem to have significantly improved local production and have reportedly developed better varieties of cotton, wheat, rice, tea and various fruits. Drip irrigation, food processing, and scientific livestock management are low-cost, but high-return investments.


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Defence technology: Pakistan manufactures fission nuclear weapons and intermediate-range missiles. For both, the basic templates were provided by China, but local manufacturing capabilities had to be developed. The JF-17 fighter and Al-Khalid tank, produced with Chinese collaboration, are now force mainstays. In the 1980s, France provided three Agosta-90B submarines that were serviced locally. Over time a burgeoning Pakistani arms industry developed that now turns out a range of weapons from grenades to tanks, night vision devices to laser-guided weapons. However, the website of the Defence Export Promotion Organisation reveals little of what is being offered for sale. Pakistani arms exports have reportedly stalled in recent years. Poor quality control and lack of innovation are said to be responsible.

Space programme: Suparco has had six decades to mature, but as far as space exploration goes, it has practically folded up. The official website shows no future plans. Instead, it seems to have settled for routine testing of variants of missile series acquired from China. India, on the other hand, has clocked several major achievements, such as two successful orbiter missions to the Moon (2008) and one mission to Mars (2013). In 2017, India launched a record 100 satellites into orbit from the Indian Polar Space Launch Vehicle.

Civilian technology: Pakistan’s top 10 exports in 2021 were textiles, cotton, cereals, copper, fruits, minerals, sports goods, leather goods, software, and medical instruments. Only the last two items rely on S&T. As of 2020, the last year for which data is available, Pakistan’s hi-tech exports were 70 times lower than India’s and 2,523 times lower than China’s (Table 2; the last entry is from the Mundi Index, which defines hi-tech exports as products with high research and development [R&D] intensity, such as in aerospace, computers, pharmaceuticals, scientific instruments and electrical machinery).

The above, however, understates the use of S&T in Pakistan’s domestic industrial production, which hinges critically upon imported machinery. This is used to produce textiles, Pakistan’s most important export, as well as cement, vegetable oil, fertiliser, sugar, steel, machinery, tobacco, paper, chemicals and food processing. Imported machinery has created an industrial ecosystem, but finished goods imported from China have adversely impacted many small industries.

Academic research: In developed countries, universities are the engines of scientific progress. Working in tandem with the industry, they help create new products and processes. On the other hand, in developing countries with small industrial bases, universities and colleges are primarily useful in creating a large pool of skilled people who can be gainfully employed in various sectors of the economy.


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Irrespective of what area of science a student chooses, the key point that can make a graduate valuable is adaptability. A broad range of interests and knowledge — and a good understanding of subject basics — enables the students to be useful in different kinds of jobs.

Very few Pakistan institutions have done well at this. Hence, employers in the Middle East generally hire Pakistanis at lower levels relative to Indians, Iranians and Bangladeshis. Leaving aside the imported Cambridge system, rote-centred learning has discouraged students from logical thinking and stunted their cognitive capacities. The mathematical abilities of students and their teachers are generally poor. The only exceptions in the indigenous education system are exceptionally bright students at the right end of the Bell curve.

The poor quality of graduates emerging from Pakistani universities has caused employers to lose trust in grades and degrees. Many with PhDs are all but illiterate in their fields and unable to answer simple questions. At the same time, the number of publications produced by students has skyrocketed. Towards the end of studentship, many are credited with more papers than professors in the 1970s would have published over their lifetimes.

Professors and their students, encouraged by a disastrous policy by the Higher Education Commission (HEC) to reward publication numbers, have created a system where at least 90 per cent of so-called research papers are faulty, trivial or plagiarised. Whereas Chinese, Indian and Iranian speakers are invited to deliver lectures at top US campuses, Pakistan’s hyper-productive professors are nowhere to be seen there. Still, international university ranking organisations pick up numerical data and use their computers to create misleading rankings.

What not to do

The degradation in Pakistan’s scientific capabilities is alarming. Just how far Pakistan has fallen into the pit of ignorance and self-delusion was illustrated by a self-styled engineer trained in Khairpur’s polytechnic institute who claimed to have invented a ‘water kit’ that would extract energy from water. Never mind that this violated the rules of thermodynamics, and the rest of the world couldn’t do it. He promised a new Pakistan with limitless energy, no need for petrol or gas, and no more loadshedding.

Politicians and media stars can perhaps be excused for being jubilant. But even our famed scientists fell for it and praised the ‘water car’ publically. No practical joker could have demonstrated more dramatically the true state of science in Pakistan.

In this situation, one needs to carefully think about what to do, and, even more importantly, what not to do.
First, Pakistan does not need any more bricks and mortar for science; there is plenty of that around.

A drive along Islamabad’s Constitution Avenue is lined with Pakistan’s most important buildings: Presidency, Prime Minister’s House, Supreme Court, National Library, etc. On the other side of the road stand science buildings bearing names such as Pakistan Academy of Sciences, Pakistan Science Foundation, Islamic Academy of Sciences, Pakistan Council for Science and Technology, Committee on S&T of Organisation of Islamic Countries (Comstech), Commission on S&T for Sustainable Development in the South (Comsats) and others.

A short distance from the Presidency is the head office of the PAEC, the largest single science-based institution in the country. About two miles away, on the campus of Quaid-i-Azam University is the National Centre for Physics (NCP).

Were any or all of these grand buildings to vanish suddenly into thin air, the world of science would simply shrug its shoulders. Shiny new cars parked in their driveways radiate opulence — a tragic waste of resources. So-called science ‘incubators’ in various cities have also proved ineffective. These were supposed to create new products for industry and business as well as new ideas for the world of academia.

Nothing is visible. Do we need to spend more money doing this? Can we not understand that chickens may need incubators, but ideas hatch inside the head?

Second, we need to see through the numbers game that was started by the HEC in 2002, and immediately dispense with it. This game had deceived Pakistanis into believing that scientific research had increased when, in fact, the opposite happened.

More ‘research’ papers and PhDs, and more universities and institutes do not at all translate into actual progress unless certain requirements are met. The most important of these are academic integrity and accurate assessment of scientific worth. As a result of incentivising corruption through cash rewards for papers and grants of PhD degrees, integrity has precipitously declined.


The way forward

The state of science in Pakistan, 75 years down the line, is visibly poor. There is little public understanding of science, our exports are largely low-tech textiles and raw materials, all significant weapons systems are imported, the space programme has almost ceased to exist, and scientific research carried out in universities and institutes carries little credibility or usefulness.

It is futile to blame a particular government; between one government and another, there has been little difference. The collective worldview, or weltanschauung, is at the core of the failure. This grim situation should energise us to drastically change our course. This must begin with changing the content and quality of education, beginning at the school level and then upward.

Instead of stuffing minds with propaganda, the goal must be to enhance cognitive capacity and creativity. How this can be done is well known: we can simply copy one of many successful countries. Attitudes acquired in school carry over to all higher levels — colleges, universities, research institutes, and every other organisation. Good education encourages questioning and seeking answers. Traditional education, on the other hand, lulls the mind into passivity by endless memorisation and repetition.

As they say, to make an omelette, you must first break an egg. That egg, in Pakistan’s context, is the traditional value system that clashes with the value system of modernity and science. Pakistan hungers for the fruits of science, but a massive upsurge of zealotry has rendered it attitudinally unfit for nurturing science. Unlike its products, science cannot be acquired without accepting the fundamental premise of strict objectivity and, above all, the scientific method. Yes, it is as plain as that — take it or leave it.

The author is an Islamabad-based physicist and writer.

Just like Indians no longer think corruption is a problem, Pkistanis have been now trained to accept pseudo religious ideas of Islam as not a problem. All our ailments stem , are enabled and furthered by these respective evils. The easy direct route to wealth power and success is to be corrupt in India, sound Islamic in Pakistan. Until these are stemmed and reversed no real progress or development.
 
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He has encapsulated it very well
“That egg, in Pakistan’s context, is the traditional value system that clashes with the value system of modernity and science. Pakistan hungers for the fruits of science, but a massive upsurge of zealotry has rendered it attitudinally unfit for nurturing science. Unlike its products, science cannot be acquired without accepting the fundamental premise of strict objectivity and, above all, the scientific method. Yes, it is as plain as that — take it or leave it.”

That rot is the core problem to it everything that ails Pakistan. A rotten crop of traditional values hiding behind obfuscation of religion to protect themselves

The core problems have been known for a long time time. It is our persistent refusal to enact any meaningful solutions to said core problems is a fascinating study in societal self-destruction.
 
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That rot is the core problem to it everything that ails Pakistan. A rotten crop of traditional values hiding behind obfuscation of religion to protect themselves
Just say it and stop holding it in your chest you have something against someone's personal beliefs and that is not sitting right with you. You are making it seem like science and Islam have some kind of ancient enmity that's preventing science from gaining a foothold let me put it simply the day you put more emphasis on learning and not dumb theories that day will be your EID.

Traditional values and religion is what holds a community together look at the western world they have become pioneers in knowledge yet at the same time the average Joe is a depressed baboon you know why because values and beliefs mean nothing to them the society is in a steep decline where people like andrew tate are becoming their heroes enough said.

The core problems have been known for a long time time. It is our persistent refusal to enact any meaningful solutions to said core problems is a fascinating study in societal self-destruction.
Go on genius name the core problems but don't go on a rant about Islam and XYZ traditions id like to see where the fault lines lie.

The thing is most so-called woke liberalgandus don't know their arse from their elbows yet you see them giving lectures on SOCIETAL problems. Please enlighten us on the problems.
 
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Just say it and stop holding it in your chest you have something against someone's personal beliefs and that is not sitting right with you. You are making it seem like science and Islam have some kind of ancient enmity that's preventing science from gaining a foothold let me put it simply the day you put more emphasis on learning and not dumb theories that day will be your EID.

Traditional values and religion is what holds a community together look at the western world they have become pioneers in knowledge yet at the same time the average Joe is a depressed baboon you know why because values and beliefs mean nothing to them the society is in a steep decline where people like andrew tate are becoming their heroes enough said.


Go on genius name the core problems but don't go on a rant about Islam and XYZ traditions id like to see where the fault lines lie.

The thing is most so-called woke liberalgandus don't know their arse from their elbows yet you see them giving lectures on SOCIETAL problems. Please enlighten us on the problems.
You completely misunderstood his point. He stated that we Pakistanis twist Islam to justify our wrongdoings and this is 100% true. The traditional values of Pakistan are mostly dog sh*t. Our traditional values have f**k all to do with Islam, we still carry so many pre-Islamic traditions with us. Also, where did @SQ8 and @VCheng even remotely criticize Islam? Our values are as far away from Islam as possible. Corruption, theft, lying, blaming others for your own problems, cheating, bribery, fraud, jealousy, showing off, backbiting, associating partners with Allah while calling yourself Muslims, and oppressing others are integral values of your average Pakistani. I see them every single day here in Lahore, things are just as bad elsewhere in the country if not worse. I am surprised that Allah hasn't punished us more.
 
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Traditional values and religion is what holds a community together look at the western world they have become pioneers in knowledge yet at the same time the average Joe is a depressed baboon you know why because values and beliefs mean nothing to them the society is in a steep decline where people like andrew tate are becoming their heroes enough said.

The fact that you choose to live among the depressed baboons and not the enlightened ones with traditional values and religion alone speaks loudly enough. :D

You completely misunderstood his point. He stated that we Pakistanis twist Islam to justify our wrongdoings and this is 100% true. The traditional values of Pakistan are mostly dog sh*t. Our traditional values have f**k all to do with Islam, we still carry so many pre-Islamic traditions with us. Also, where did @SQ8 and @VCheng even remotely criticize Islam? Our values are as far away from Islam as possible. Corruption, theft, lying, blaming others for your own problems, cheating, bribery, fraud, jealousy, showing off, backbiting, associating partners with Allah while calling yourself Muslims, and oppressing others are integral values of your average Pakistani. I see them every single day here in Lahore, things are just as bad elsewhere in the country if not worse. I am surprised that Allah hasn't punished us more.

Please see above.
 
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The fact that you choose to live among the depressed baboons and not the enlightened ones with traditional values and religion alone speaks loudly enough. :D
Living amongst them does not mean I have to adopt to them you silly sod maybe you do but certainly, self-respecting people do not, or is it you doing the usual generalization mantra.

You completely misunderstood his point. He stated that we Pakistanis twist Islam to justify our wrongdoings and this is 100% true. The traditional values of Pakistan are mostly dog sh*t. Our traditional values have f**k all to do with Islam, we still carry so many pre-Islamic traditions with us. Also, where did @SQ8 and @VCheng even remotely criticize Islam? Our values are as far away from Islam as possible. Corruption, theft, lying, blaming others for your problems, cheating, bribery, fraud, jealousy, showing off, backbiting, associating partners with Allah while calling yourself Muslims, and oppressing others are integral values of your average Pakistani. I see them every single day here in Lahore, things are just as bad elsewhere in the country if not worse. I am surprised that Allah hasn't punished us more.
That comes down to your education its not a cultural thing its education when your leaders are stupid the populace will show the symptoms too.
 
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Honestly speaking I've observed that Muslims tend to be a little conservative and non liberal when it comes to scientific stuff and education.
Idk if this is due to poverty or just holding religious education on a higher pedestal even the educated ones (again doesn't apply to everyone)
In my whole school plus uni life (all private ones) i haven't encountered many Muslims
 
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When focus is only on DHA then sciences can go take a hike. It's not about Islam vs Liberalism. Hoodboy conveniently forgets all Muslim contributions to science in the golden ages.
 
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The biggest damage that colonials did to the Muslim world was separation of non-religious studies/sciences from the madrasa system. This needs to be put back together so that madrasas don't produce useless nutcase molvies.
 
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This article is kind of stupid.

Nobody is asking to reject science.
You are confused, if you answer following question you will be get clarity

- Tell How Humans came from Adam and Eve or from Evolution ?
- Earth was created in 6 days or millions of years ?
- In evening sun goes down in dirty water or not ?
 
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Living amongst them does not mean I have to adopt to them you silly sod maybe you do but certainly, self-respecting people do not, or is it you doing the usual generalization mantra.


That comes down to your education its not a cultural thing its education when your leaders are stupid the populace will show the symptoms too.
It's the other way around. Leaders in a democracy are the reflection of society. I have seen highly educated people do the bad things that I mentioned in my earlier post. Brother, my father and his friend have seen Imans try to commit theft inside a mosque, thankfully these Imans were caught. When such things keep happening regularly they are considered part of the culture. How many people are genuinely trying to stop people from trying to do any of these bad things? Hardly anyone is trying to stop them, this indicates that we have accepted that we are corrupt people and we are perfectly fine with it.
Honestly speaking I've observed that Muslims tend to be a little conservative and non liberal when it comes to scientific stuff and education.
Idk if this is due to poverty or just holding religious education on a higher pedestal even the educated ones (again doesn't apply to everyone)
In my whole school plus uni life (all private ones) i haven't encountered many Muslims
Perhaps this is just the case in your area. Islam orders us to constantly seek education, this thought process caused the Islamic Golden Age, the greatest golden age in the history of humanity.
 
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When focus is only on DHA then sciences can go take a hike. It's not about Islam vs Liberalism. Hoodboy conveniently forgets all Muslim contributions to science in the golden ages.
Golden age contributors were Mutazilas and were considered non muslims by mullah of their time
They believed that God (Allah) never spoke to any angel / prophet (Muhammad), hence they were labelled kafir (similar to Ahmadis)
They were killed/ burned for not believing in Muhammad but today all mullah claim their achievements as theirs
 
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Golden age contributors were Mutazilas and were considered non muslims by mullah of their time
They believed that God (Allah) never spoke to any angel / prophet (Muhammad), hence they were labelled kafir (similar to Ahmadis)
They were killed/ burned for not believing in Muhammad but today all mullah claim their achievements as theirs
They weren't the only ones. For the record, Mutazilas were the radicals of their time.
 
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Without trying to sound too much like a pseudo-intellectual myself, in my opinion, Pakistan's two biggest problems are the rise in anti-intellectualism, and the failure of our education system to instill a culture of critical thinking. We as a society are not allowed to ask questions or discuss certain things because it offends one or the other. How are we going to produce any great scientists etc when we can't even teach our people the proper etiquettes of discussion and reasoning skills required to disect ideas?

And when we do have intellectuals who try to direct our attention to the shortcomings of our society, what knee-jerk reaction do we exhibit?

I mean one just has to read the comments directed at Professor Hoodbhoy personally to see this in action. I disgree with him on many things but I wouldn't dare to parade around the insults he gets thrown at by the majority of Pakistanis.

Kissi aur ki baat ko soch samajh, aur tahumal se sun-ne ki adat nahi dali humne.
 
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